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[Otakumegane]

Going back to Kalos would be cool, but I kinda doubt it. I think the more likely culprit is all of those Z-moves adding what are basically a ton of cutscenes to the game.

This actually makes sense.

 

[spawnsniper]

I highly doubt it's more contents.
I remember reading somewhere that this will be the first full 3D game, not like XY or oras where it was just the encounters that where 3D (as well as viewing pokemon) so I would think that's why it's so large.

 

[Already Torn]

I highly doubt it's more contents.
I remember reading somewhere that this will be the first full 3D game, not like XY or oras where it was just the encounters that where 3D (as well as viewing pokemon) so I would think that's why it's so large.

I thought overworld was still 2D?

 

[Sol1dus]

People need to relax. New Pokemon models and sound bites make up most of that size. I think people expecting a second region should keep their expectations in check.

Spoiler

I'm a little hyped

 

[MuchoMalo]

Going back to Kalos would be cool, but I kinda doubt it. I think the more likely culprit is all of those Z-moves adding what are basically a ton of cutscenes to the game.

Those are all in-engine and have basic backgrounds. They most likely barely take more space than the regular moves.

I highly doubt it's more contents.
I remember reading somewhere that this will be the first full 3D game, not like XY or oras where it was just the encounters that where 3D (as well as viewing pokemon) so I would think that's why it's so large.

I thought overworld was still 2D?

The overworlds of all of the 3DS games are full polygonal 3D. Even the DS games has 3D overworlds but with sprites for all characters and such.

 

[aadiboy]

I think it's more likely the extra space is for all the new Pokemon, moves, and better graphics (no more chibi character models).

 

[l3lacklvlagic]

Buy the physical copy and you good to go.

That's true I didn't even think about that, thanks.

 

[oti]

dem secret NX HD textures

 

[brinstar]

I feel like if there was another region in postgame that would've been leaked immediately

 

[MuchoMalo]

I think it's more likely the extra space is for all the new Pokemon, moves, and better graphics (no more chibi character models).

I don't see how just that could cause such an increase in space. I don't know about a whole region, but it could at least mean an actual postgame.

 

[Fireblend]

Yeah, it's good to know the game is absolutely packed with content (even if it means higher texture count or sound samples or whatever), but another region is just not likely at all, and download size is a pretty bad hype indicator.

That said, I'm so damn hyped for this game. Can't wait for the game.

 

[Already Torn]

Those are all in-engine and have basic backgrounds. They most likely barely take more space than the regular moves.





The overworlds of all of the 3DS games are full polygonal 3D. Even the DS games has 3D overworlds but with sprites for all characters and such.

The previous 3DS games were 2D only in the overworld. Everyone made a big stink about it.

 

[PadWarrior]

That's true I didn't even think about that, thanks.

Welcome! 👍🏾

 

[Astral Dog]

Why not just buy the cart?

 

[Aaronrules380]

Why not just buy the cart?

Pokemon is one of the games that I love having digitally, since it's great to be able to just go in and do a few online battles whenever the mood strikes me without having to look for where I put the carts

 

[Starwolf_UK]

Weird that people are getting hyped over this game because of its filesize.

There was a thread a while back about someone who felt they were getting value for money with new Gears of War game because it was 50GB. My search skills fail me so some of that might be wrong.

I'm all for it, if it means we get more content. Really hope it's not an other X/Y scenario...

Btw... This block nonsense needs to die on the 3DS. Why even come up with such a stupid system and not use GB/MB/etc.?

The Wii U uses MB and GB. Then again the Wii U doesn't have themes and took way longer than it should have to get folders (a problem which continues to persist console OS) so who knows if that is what goes forward.

Still, Wii/DSi/3DS blocks are dead easy. Rough calculation is divide by 8; theres your megabytes, in other words these blocks are megabits...it's the 90s all over again (Nintendo wishes it was...). Since this got me talking...now the Gamecube memory card blocks...those were TINY as each block was 8 KiB (in other words the memory card 59s at launch were four times larger than PS1 memory cards while 16 times smaller than PS2 ones).

 

[RionaaM]

The previous 3DS games were 2D only in the overworld. Everyone made a big stink about it.

Oh, you mean 3D effect, as in "pop out". That's true, I hope Sun and Moon have the 3D effect enabled everywhere. But I seriously doubt it, every trailer has the "Game in 2D. Some areas playable in 3D" message, as do the game boxes shown there.

 

[WrenchNinja]

What's your explanation for the size then?

Larger assets? Each island is bigger than we think? I don't know, but I'm not going to get my hopes up and give Game Freak the benefit of the doubt on delivering a post game that isn't total suckage like XY and ORAS.

 

[Link_enfant]

dem secret NX HD textures

Plot twist: confirmed to be true once the NX is revealed.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Those are all in-engine and have basic backgrounds. They most likely barely take more space than the regular moves.

The overworlds of all of the 3DS games are full polygonal 3D. Even the DS games has 3D overworlds but with sprites for all characters and such.

They mean stereoscopic 3D, which the Gen VI overworld did not have, and I'm pretty certain they've confirmed that Gen VII will be the same.

 

[roytheone]

or even 32GB variant?

This made me laugh. Like 32 GB being some insane size for an SD card this day and age

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

Wait this is a New 3DS exclusive???

 

[tauroxd]

Wait this is a New 3DS exclusive???

No.

 

[ohlawd]

HNNNNG

gimme that preload

 

[Persona7]

It's too bad 3DS doesn't support SD cards larger than 32 GB without utilizing workarounds I'm not too comfortable with. I would prefer to buy digital on the system but that holds me back.

Don't you just format the card and that's it?

 

[MuchoMalo]

The previous 3DS games were 2D only in the overworld. Everyone made a big stink about it.

No, it was grid-based movement that caused people to say that it wasn't 3D. 2.5D is more appropriate. The point is that this doesn't have any bearing on the size of the games because Gen 6 is already 3D graphically. I don't think that removing the grid is enough double the game's size. And don't tell me that I'm wrong, I have the games.

They mean stereoscopic 3D, which the Gen VI overworld did not have, and I'm pretty certain they've confirmed that Gen VII will be the same.

Oh. Well, then these aren't 3D either and it really has no bearing on anything lol

 

[udivision]

NX Region confirmed.
Region Locked confirmed.
We need to make it to Regionals, confirmed.

 

[M3d10n]

So how does one safely transfer data from sd card to another? Never had to upgrade before.

1- Remove the old SD card from the 3DS.
2- Put it in a card reader on a PC/Mac.
3- Copy all files and folders from the card to a folder in your PC/Mac.
4- Plug the new card on your PC/Mac.
5- Format the new card as FAT32(*).
6- Copy all files to the new card.
7- Put the new card on the 3DS and turn it on.

(*Windows' formatting tools will not allow cards larger than 32GB to be formatted as FAT32, you need to use a 3rd party tool like this one: http://tokiwa.qee.jp/EN/Fat32Formatter)

Don't 3DS carts only hold 2 gb?

Edit: I guess not. It'll probably have the same startup thing as Smash and MH4 on regular 3DS's

3DS carts go up to 4GB. This has nothing to do with regular 3DS vs new 3DS: the "startup thing" for Smash and MH4 was due to them rebooting the regular 3DS into a different mode that disabled a bunch of home menu functionality to give the games 96MBs of RAM instead of the standard 64MBs.

 

[Already Torn]

No, it was grid-based movement that caused people to say that it wasn't 3D. 2.5D is more appropriate. The point is that this doesn't have any bearing on the size of the games because Gen 6 is already 3D graphically. I don't think that removing the grid is enough double the game's size. And don't tell me that I'm wrong, I have the games.

Oh. Well, then these aren't 3D either and it really has no bearing on anything lol

How could you not know I was talking about the graphics lol

But yeah, like I said I don't think it's changed.

 

[CazTGG]

3DS carts go up to 4GB. This has nothing to do with regular 3DS vs new 3DS: the "startup thing" for Smash and MH4 was due to them rebooting the regular 3DS into a different mode that disabled a bunch of home menu functionality to give the games 96MBs of RAM instead of the standard 64MBs.

So far as I recall, the correct maximum is 8 GB for a 3DS cartridge, though such a game that ultizes all that space does not exist at the moment. Probably won't ever unless some developer decides to cram in a lot of uncompressed voice acting and music as well as hi-res cutscenes but I digress.

 

[Council Pop]

Maybe there really is another region. All though, I don't see why they would do that considering going back to Kanto in G/S and HG/SS was a mistake.

I think you're probably the only person in the world who thinks that. I mean, it's all subjective but.. an actual mistake? Really?

 

[Falchion]

That's a big game, it already seems like they've crammed a ton of new features and stuff into it.

 

[MisterHero]

151 gen 1 pokemon
2 genders most
Both kanto and alola forms for all
Shiny textures for all
Some guests from lamer gens

That's the pokedex, obviously

 

[Complistic]

And people thought the game was going to be small when it was first shown off.

 

[Mael]

Gen VI are 2D games? wut?
The only thing 2D in these games are menus and text.
The overworld had "dramatic" camera movement at times and there's clearly areas with camera being different than just regular viewpoint you get in pokemon games.
And if you mean stereoscopic 3D compared to 2D overworld that wouldn't require cart space more than a more powerful system to begin with.
Like on new3DS they could probably pull it off but not regular 3DS.

 

[ryan13ts]

All that space has to mean way more relevant content. Wouldn't it be awesome if we get to go to Kanto post game and go through a proper league and gym battles? It's not TOO far fetched considering the focus on Kanto Pokemon being the only ones to get Alola forms (Outside of Genwunner pandering). The in-game explanation could be that Alola is super close to Kanto in the Pokemon world.

Ah, I can always dream....

 

[DragonKnight]

Definitely taking the fuck off for this

 

[tauroxd]

People expecting another region like in G/S are probably letting their imagination and hype to go too far, I mean, it is not impossible but I don't think it is that possible. The best thing to do is to hope that all that extra space means a proper post game content this time. I don't really see a graphical update, but I haven't seen basically anything so I don't know it that's truly the case, and I don't think the new features and forms are enough to have almost 2 times the size of X/Y, so it will probably be postgame but not necessarily a whole new region like Kanto in G/S.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

People expecting another region like in G/S are probably letting their imagination and hype to go too far, I mean, it is not impossible but I don't think it is that possible. The best thing to do is to hope that all that extra space means a proper post game content this time. I don't really see a graphical update, but I haven't seen basically anything so I don't know it that's truly the case, and I don't think the new features and forms are enough to have almost 2 times the size of X/Y, so it will probably be postgame but not necessarily a whole new region like Kanto in G/S.

Yeah, I think we can be pretty sure that they havenøt used up all the extra space on character models.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Awesome. Super excited. I almost always go physical so space and memory isn't an issue for me.

 

[Darkspineslayer]

Maybe Iwata was still the only one who knew how to properly compress these games up through ORAS?


Ooh I like this theory.

I'd have to disagree with the theory. There's no transition, it's real time. It's just new animations.

 

[cHinzo]

Oh shit, it's gonna be TWICE AS BIG AS KALOS!

HIDDEN POST-GAME ISLANDS!

TWO REGIONS!

AN ALOLA CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT!

#HYPE

 

[Dimmle]

Every region. All Pokemon catchable in their native areas. Your bike can fly.

 

[Tacorona72]

Please be postgame content.

 

[Kouriozan]

Yeah, I think we can be pretty sure that they havenøt used up all the extra space on character models.

Well of course they didn't use all, but you can't say it's not a big step up

 

[Complistic]

Well of course they didn't use all, but you can't say it's not a big step up

XY had scenes like that too in fairness.

 

[Kyzer]

XY had scenes like that too in fairness.

right, and scenes dont take up as much space as an entire game lol

 

[JStein0222]

Every region. All Pokemon catchable in their native areas. Your bike can fly.

This got me

 

[Complistic]

Ah, I had no idea they upped the graphical fidelity so much. Just looked at some game play, I can definitely see how all the added detail would increase the game size.

 

[Zyrox]

XY had scenes like that too in fairness.

X/Y had scenes like that, but in Sun/Moon the whole game is like that (referring to the non chibi models). It's quite a big step up alongside getting rid of the grid based design.