cartoon_soldier
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Cap and Trade is political death bed.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Cap and Trade is political death bed.
Sirpopopop
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I do not favor any compromise with Bernistas. I would prefer they crawl back to the Ron Paul hole from whence they came.
As a brown man in this country I want nothing to do with people who would rather vote for someone whose platform involves discrimination against brown people over someone in the same party whom doesn't 100% share their views.
We can win this election without them. No compromise. A message needs to be sent that you need to be willing to compromise before the Party will compromise for you.
As a brown man in this country I want nothing to do with people who would rather vote for someone whose platform involves discrimination against brown people over someone in the same party whom doesn't 100% share their views.
We can win this election without them. No compromise. A message needs to be sent that you need to be willing to compromise before the Party will compromise for you.
Sounds like a winning strategy
shinra-bansho
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Moratorium on trade.
metalslimer
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While I don't think the hardcore Bernie people deserve anything, this doesn't really make any sense. To be honest I don't think there is much to compromise on. Clinton's policies pretty much completely line up with the direction Bernie wants to go in. I do think maybe they can throw them some kind of bone. I also don't think anyone will capitulate to the any of the Bernie-Trump people.
RustyNails
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Crush ISIS
hammysaurusrex
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In my mind there are primarily two distinct factions that should be treated differently.
One includes the somewhat naive newly minted progressives, many of whom will be voting for their first president, who haven't had to contend with the reality that the president can't simply will a progressive government into existence alone. I think it's very important to try the best to keep them as engaged as possible and encourage them not be discouraged because Dear Leader let them down. If there was a way to to transfer the energy the Bernie campaign had (minus the sexism, and dog-whistle racism, and as we learned last night - violence) to local and regional elections, that would be great.
However, the second faction which is becoming more and more apparent makes up the vocal plurality is just the constant flux of anti-establishment bandwagoners that jumps from populist candidate to populist candidate. I'm perfectly comfortable ignoring them - no one needs screaming children that throw a tantrum every time something doesn't come out perfect for them.
One includes the somewhat naive newly minted progressives, many of whom will be voting for their first president, who haven't had to contend with the reality that the president can't simply will a progressive government into existence alone. I think it's very important to try the best to keep them as engaged as possible and encourage them not be discouraged because Dear Leader let them down. If there was a way to to transfer the energy the Bernie campaign had (minus the sexism, and dog-whistle racism, and as we learned last night - violence) to local and regional elections, that would be great.
However, the second faction which is becoming more and more apparent makes up the vocal plurality is just the constant flux of anti-establishment bandwagoners that jumps from populist candidate to populist candidate. I'm perfectly comfortable ignoring them - no one needs screaming children that throw a tantrum every time something doesn't come out perfect for them.
Abinash117
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You should read the lower half when it says that he might get some things.
I doubt that they insert his more far out ideas like free college, banning fracking, and open primaries.
Dubbedinenglish
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We need to stop trade until we can figure out what is going on.
Box of Kittens
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Segregation is still a thing in a lot of cities. I live in Chicago and my neighborhood is less than 5% black. Other neighborhoods in the city can be over 95% black. Chicago is particularly bad in that regard but you'll see similar stories in a lot of cities.
RastaMentality
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I've seen a study in my SOC class where it said that white people preferred to live in neighborhoods where they were surrounded by other white people. Black and Latino responders wanted to live in more diversely populated neighborhoods. Also explains why majority white neighborhoods have houses that are valued more.
Bernie just wants to "stick it to the man" or "the establishment"
Hillary is "the man" in the Democratic Primary
Trump is "the man" in the General Election
He's going to oppose "the man" on a lot of their platforms, but not always with good reason. I don't care why anyone opposes Trump though, any allies against Trump are still welcome
Hillary is "the man" in the Democratic Primary
Trump is "the man" in the General Election
He's going to oppose "the man" on a lot of their platforms, but not always with good reason. I don't care why anyone opposes Trump though, any allies against Trump are still welcome
All these sneakers keep sneaking into our country!
So, is this titanic battle for two or three delegates in Nevada finally over? I was totally on the edge of my seat worried about whether Bernie would cross that tipping point where he'd only need a 89.4% win in CA instead of 89.5%. Or I might have been playing Minecraft in a fuzzy wracking cough fugue, whatever. God I just want this stupid cold to be OVER
we need to build a wall and make trade pay for it
Wow, you'd think they'd understand that they need to be a Democrat to be part of the Democratic convention. On that note, here's one of them speaking for themselves:
SMH
excelsiorlef
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So the end result is that in the end both Clinton and Sandets got exactly the same number of delegates they originally had won in the first place.
Yep....definitely something fraudulent there...
Lol
Yep....definitely something fraudulent there...
Lol
Box of Kittens
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I've noticed how the Bernie or Bust crowd takes the fact that Clinton needs the votes of Sanders supporters in November as Clinton needing the votes of all Sanders supporters. Therefore every childish temper tantrum needs to be indulged and they constantly need to be coddled and told how wonderful and important they are. Any attempt to hold them accountable for their behavior is met with ominous warnings of "Hillary isn't entitled to our votes."
Hillary can, and should, make an effort to appeal to the vast majority of Bernie's supporters, and most of them will vote for her in November (just as her supporters largely voted for Obama against McCain), but trying to appeal to people who would never vote for her in the first place is a waste of time.
Wow, you'd think they'd understand that they need to be a Democrat to be part of the Democratic convention. On that note, here's one of them speaking for themselves:
Best part of this is this reply:
You betrayed me
Simply by not being Donald Trump she already does that. Whatever % need further convincing were probably not reliable GE Dem voters anyway
Box of Kittens
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It's where a lot of that "low information voter" garbage comes from. The basic thought process is "why don't they understand that the issues that are most important to me should also be the most important to them?"
But we've certainly reached the point where you can't win a Democratic primary just by trying to appeal to white people.
User 463088
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Ya, but you can't say it like that. You have to say FRAUD! ESTABLISHMENT! CORRUPTION! She bought them MacDonalds, etc.
Box of Kittens
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While we're at it, let's assume that all of Europe has single payer because universal health care can only be achieved through single payer.
I knew that there had to be people out there that actually liked Smirnoff Ice.
User 463088
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The regular Smirnoff ice Pineapple is my jam. Seriously. I love that stuff. This stuff, though, comes in 16 oz bottles. It's not carbonated. It taste like those juice jugs you used to get as a kid? But with alcohol. And regret after 4 of them. They're sooo goooood.
But, I agree with your actual on topic point. We are not getting single payer in this country. It doesn't make sense for us. Our system is based around a private model, and transitioning to single payer isn't going to work. A multipayer, not for profit system would be great. It's the best way to go, really.
Tarkus
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Ewwww. Sounds like liquid hangover.
Pineapple Habanero Hop Dang Diggity IPA is my jam lately.
Veritigo_X
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I love how the argument with this whole Nevada controversy is less about representing the way people actually voted and more about the integrity of the caucus process that is apparently being violated.
You ice yourself? I've only seen people drink that when a friend is being a dick and makes you. I didn't think people willingly drank it.
You ice yourself? I've only seen people drink that when a friend is being a dick and makes you. I didn't think people willingly drank it.
Box of Kittens
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What's more important? That the distribution of delegates reflect the actual vote? Or that the distribution of delegates account for retroactive momentum and the will of the people
on Reddit
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Corey Robin became a college professor despite being one of the dumbest people possible. The world is yours, people.
https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/730247079688323073
But Lee Fang became a nobody despite being this dumb
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/730203044382539776
blackaroni
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We have a civil rights activist running for president????
jack_package_200
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Haven't you heard? MLK walked with the great and legendary Bernie Sanders.
nature boy
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Gotta love cry babys twitter rant on NYT and CNN.
jack_package_200
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Need to be specific.
nature boy
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SAD!
jack_package_200
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Ahh the Donald.
Cry Baby could be a lot of things. Donald, Glenn Beck, Bernie Bros etc.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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How sad is Russia as a nation to think that cheating to win the Olympics is worthwhile? Who gives a fuck about winning Olympic medals as a country?
nature boy
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Yeah, apologies if I confused.
He's going to be massacred by the "dishonest" press.
It's going to be 6 long months, Don.
He's going to be massacred by the "dishonest" press.
It's going to be 6 long months, Don.
jack_package_200
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God Bless r/enoughsandersspam
FloydtheFathead
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That was a really good episode of Law and Order.
Macho Madness
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New YouGov poll out: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/wlcyvv3fks/econTabReport.pdf
Has some really whacky stuff in it. Lot of undecideds on things makes it nearly irrelevant.
Has some really whacky stuff in it. Lot of undecideds on things makes it nearly irrelevant.
User 463088
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Why do you all hate everything I love. Smirnoff is delicious. Sad. Mess. Next y'all gonna tell me you don't like peanut butter vodka shooters
Sad and low energy.
Sad and low energy.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Republicans think Bernie is more moderate than Hillary, lol.
Macho Madness
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41% of Bernie supporters have an unfavorable view of Bill Clinton
14% of Bernie supporters oppose single payer
Macho Madness
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I just realized I answered that poll
Joe Lieberman was the only thing standing between Democrats and the public option in 2009, but if the price of Bernie's endorsement is pretending otherwise, I will happily take it.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Republicans legitimately think that Hillary is the devil based on that poll. 4% would vote for Hillary over Trump?
Trump's "is this candidate qualified to be president?" numbers are trash in the poll.
Trump's "is this candidate qualified to be president?" numbers are trash in the poll.
This is the kind of thing that makes me want to vomit, at the thought of the Clinton's being installed in the White House for quite possibly, eight frigin years: Clinton charity arranged $2M pledge to firm owned by Bills friend.
And before the inevitable "So Bernie supporters are now resorting to posting articles from the NY Post? Talk about desperate...", the story was originally published on May 12, by the Wall Street Journal (behind a paywall).
As regulars can attest, I have plenty of issues with Obama on policy, especially on trade (TPP/TTIP) and general corporate friendliness, but I can state, without reservation, that during their almost eight year stay in the White House, the Obama family have conducted themselves in a truly exemplary fashion, and represent a wonderful example for future presidential families.
I have little doubt that Bernie and Jane Sanders, and their wider family, would also coduct themselves with decorum, giving our highest office the respect it should demand, and would also present a joyous example to the wider World, but based on even recent past experience, I bet few of you could, hand on heart, offer any such guarantees for the Clinton's, who in my view, shouldn't be within five hundred miles of the White House, let alone live there again, for close to a decade, at our great expense...
And before the inevitable "So Bernie supporters are now resorting to posting articles from the NY Post? Talk about desperate...", the story was originally published on May 12, by the Wall Street Journal (behind a paywall).
As regulars can attest, I have plenty of issues with Obama on policy, especially on trade (TPP/TTIP) and general corporate friendliness, but I can state, without reservation, that during their almost eight year stay in the White House, the Obama family have conducted themselves in a truly exemplary fashion, and represent a wonderful example for future presidential families.
I have little doubt that Bernie and Jane Sanders, and their wider family, would also coduct themselves with decorum, giving our highest office the respect it should demand, and would also present a joyous example to the wider World, but based on even recent past experience, I bet few of you could, hand on heart, offer any such guarantees for the Clinton's, who in my view, shouldn't be within five hundred miles of the White House, let alone live there again, for close to a decade, at our great expense...
Nah, the best reply stemmed from one guy who called the original poster a "low information delegate". He got defensive and said:
And one guy couldn't handle it:
I laughed at low common sense.
Are you guys ready? Donald Trump Is About To Start Getting Intelligence Briefings [NPR]
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