PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why

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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If Trump pulls the obscure ethics rule garbage, the IC will have to do it all themselves.
 
It seems easy enough for Rosenstein to go "lolno" at that and let Mueller do what he wants.
Yep. With Sessions recused, Rosenstein has authority over the investigation, and he can waive the ethics rule. If the White House pushes the ethics rule, it looks suspicious. If Trump fires Rosenstein, it looks suspicious. Either way Trump loses.
 
Say Trump somehow squeaks through to 2020 with all the attached baggage or with an investigation still ongoing. Who do we think is going to try and primary him? Definitely Kasich I think but who else?
 
What's the procedure for a 25th amendment removal-from-office?
That requires the cabinet to mutiny, basically. A majority of them will have to claim that the president is incapacitated and submit that declaration to Congress. Then the Vice President becomes acting president.

But the deposed chief executive could challenge it with his own statement and return to office. If the cabinet then submits another declaration, Congress would have to adjudicate the matter by a two-thirds majority.
 
Say Trump somehow squeaks through to 2024 with all the attached baggage or with an investigation still ongoing. Who do we think is going to try and primary him? Definitely Kasich I think but who else?
by that point he can't run again. America reelected him. GAF implodes. California and New York secede.
 
Historically, is impeachment unpopular? For instance, were there congressmen that lost their seats over it?
Yeah, it's not super popular but the sample size is way too low to say that concretely. The only time it was super unpopular was when it was over Clinton's sex scandal which most Americans don't care about, even conservatives.

2/3 senate majority seems insurmountable...

Even if the Dems get a majority by 2020, what are the odds substantial numbers of Republicans vote to oust the big guy?
The odds are dependent on how bad the evidence is. And even then, if the evidence is overwhelming, then the GOP Senators would just send a heads-up well in advance to the White House and Trump would set up some pardons for his underlings and then resign, to be pardoned by Pence on his first day. But this is still removal from office so I'd take it.
 

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I meant 2020. Just read Tom Cotton is making moves in Iowa, early primary state and surely he can't be looking at 2024, way too early for that.
I don't think a serious primary challenge will happen unless 2018 is very, very bad for Trump. The whole Republican establishment would need to defect.
 
Yep. With Sessions recused, Rosenstein has authority over the investigation, and he can waive the ethics rule. If the White House pushes the ethics rule, it looks suspicious. If Trump fires Rosenstein, it looks suspicious. Either way Trump loses.
Remember Trump has still ways to go before he goes full Nixon, who fired the Dep AG and the special prosecutor. Knowing Trump he will fire Rosenstein and Mueller, and blame on Democrats/waste of taxpayer money.
 
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