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repeating the same voice commands will be infuriating

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Reality interferes with Kinect. The reality the voice recognition is not perfect.

Nilay's video was prerecorded and it was pretty bad too.

Reality is going to be interesting to watch after launch.

 

[Jomjom]

Hahah who is the guy to the right of Nilay? He's trying so hard to defend the Xbox One.

 

[spwolf]

That's completely besides the point and is actually the opposite of the discussion. We're talking about console being controlled by devices, not consoles controlling other devices.

HDMI-CEC is not a guaranteed solution.

Kinect being an IR receiver as well as a blaster means that remotes can be created or software/firmware upgrade to be directly compatible with it like Logitech are doing with their Harmony remotes which they hope to be compatible on day one.

you do realize that Harmony will work PS4? In fact most TV's and their remotes sold in past 3-4 years will work on PS4 as they have HDMI CEC.

You have no need to wait for "next year" or firmware update or buy extra remote. It will just work.

I wonder if you ever had HDMI CEC compatible device in your house... my buddy's cheapest Panny plasma from 2 years ago has it and it controls Sony BD Entertainment center without any need for any settings. It just works all together.

As to the comments, those trolls dont own Harmony or they would know that it works, haha.

 

[Lima]

repeating the same voice commands will be infuriating

You will just do the same thing you do on 360... use the controller.

you do realize that Harmony will work PS4? In fact most TV's and their remotes sold in past 3-4 years will work on PS4 as they have HDMI CEC.

You have no need to wait for "next year" or firmware update or buy extra remote. It will just work.

I wonder if you ever had HDMI CEC compatible device in your house... my buddy's cheapest Panny plasma from 2 years ago has it and it controls Sony BD Entertainment center without any need for any settings. It just works all together.

As to the comments, those trolls dont own Harmony or they would know that it works, haha.

It won't. It doesn't have IR, so additional hardware is needed much like on the PS3.

 

[dreamer3kx]

Hahah who is the guy to the right of Nilay? He's trying so hard to defend the Xbox One.

David Pierce.

 

[Ryuuga]

Looks like I came back just in time for some good ol' spoats.

 

[mrklaw]

They weren't talking to you. They were talking to people who don't have both consoles. They were simply saying that you could play a tin of great games for cheap.

But those people aren't asking the question 'should I buy Xbox one or Ps4?'

 

[SRTtoZ]

You will just do the same thing you do on 360... use the controller.

Yes but there is no denying that this UI is clunky as hell when using a controller and clearly designed with voice in mind. Its pretty much a universal feeling from every review ive read. While the PS4 UI may be simple, at least its nice and quick, getting in and out of stuff nice and snappy (no pun intended).

Also, why is Aaron Rogers built like a fullback?

 

[MThanded]

You will just do the same thing you do on 360... use the controller.

Problem is I have heard a bunch of people saying the ui is not great with the controller. a lot of things are buried. Even though voice isn't great they seem to have built everything around voice.

 

[Wario64]

lol, they're slamming the TV

 

[Pingoreous]

Don't fault David Pierce, hes usually more forgiving or nice. It's in his nature.

 

[Kerned]

I love that Nilay is ridiculing Polygon's poor choice of TV.

 

[Ryuuga]

lol, they're slamming the TV

That was great. I love me some brutal honesty.

 

[Jomjom]

lol, they're slamming the TV

Haha Verge guy making Polygon guys look like tech rubes.

I guess we shouldn't blame them. Maybe this is why they can't tell a difference between 720p or 1080p.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Xbox snap is loading, and loading, and loading...

I'm sorry but Cboat wasnt too far off.

 

[MThanded]

"this is my entire experience with kinect" -nilay

 

[USC-fan]

This is so broken...

I just starting watching. How has the stream been going today?

 

[Ryuuga]

I guess we shouldn't blame them. Maybe this is why they can't tell a difference between 720p or 1080p.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Fuck Kinect.

 

[BronsonLee]

Yo The Verge redeeming everything

 

[MThanded]

Remote play
streaming
manual hard drive deletion


Come on guys you cant come up with a single thing the ps4 has that the xbox one doesnt'?

 

[VanWinkle]

I hate hearing the game opinions of people who pretty much only play sports games. The Verge people are the perfect example. They just...don't know anything.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Where's internet explorer? I see a loading bar.

 

[Pingoreous]

"Xbox stop listening." Nilay Patel

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Still waiting for explorer to load ...

Oh, it's a notoriously bad place for internet and it's hot in the studio. Crisis over.

 

[MThanded]

Does xbox 1 not have suspend resume?

 

[Kerned]

Hm. So snapping in and out of a game gives you no warning that you are about to abandon a game without saving? Not great.

 

[Lima]

Does xbox 1 not have suspend resume?

It does but you can't keep all games loaded in the memory.

 

[Ryuuga]

Good points being made about the UI.

 

[Skyzard]

I just tuned in like 5 minutes ago. It's pretty clear they hate it.

 

[MThanded]

"this is the future in action"

 

[SRTtoZ]

I just tuned in like 5 minutes ago. It's pretty clear they hate it.

I think its pretty clear that it doesnt really work as described.

 

[Ryuuga]

Skype video calls aren't snappable? Why not? That's probably the one thing I'd find useful for snap though audio calls are fine too.

 

[VanWinkle]

Hm. So snapping in and out of a game gives you no warning that you are about to abandon a game without saving? Not great.

That was astonishing to me. Such a bizarre omission.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Lol so everything that you input to HDMI IN will have degraded picture quality and it messes with the audio.

I thought that shit was useless before but damn that is on a different level of useless.

You have to be joking me.

 

[MThanded]

Skype video calls aren't snappable? Why not?

Snapped apps run pretty poorly from what i have seen. I'm guessing 2 way video streaming is pretty intensive.

 

[BronsonLee]

I don't want any of this anymore.

 

[sangreal]

zoom is grab and push in/out

 

[Skyzard]

It's gonna crash. They're scared.

 

[Coxy]

Still waiting for explorer to load ...

Oh, it's a notoriously bad place for internet and it's hot in the studio. Crisis over.

"heatwave in japan" lol

 

[Norml]

Looks pretty bad in live showings.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Can you use skype whilst playing a game?

As in lieu of party chat?

 

[VanWinkle]

The UI looks slow, unpolished, and disappointing.

 

[dengatron]

Madden didn't look so great. Voice commands barely work, and snapped apps chug along worse than my laptop from 3 years ago. I was interested in the concept, but I'm waiting for way more games and probably a price drop if this is how they choose to release their product..

 

[Lima]

You have to be joking me.

Nope that is what they said and what other people reported. It darkens the picture and adds a little processing to it (you can see a little more ringing around logos and stuff because it slightly sharpens the picture) and any 5.1 audio will be downmixed to stereo.

There is a 5.1 audio beta setting which gives you a warning that it will further degrade picture quality.

This HDMI IN is useless. I knew it.

 

[coldcrush]

this looks so awkward to use

 

[Final Boss]

This looks quite disappointing

 

[Empty]

they're really dismantling the u.i yikes

 

[Ryuuga]

Snapped apps run pretty poorly from what i have seen. I'm guessing 2 way video streaming is pretty intensive.

The voice recognition system looks like a trial in patience too.