Sounds good. But to me, the Vita is dead after P4G comes out. I don't really care what Sony does after that game releases.
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Sounds good. But to me, the Vita is dead after P4G comes out. I don't really care what Sony does after that game releases.
Battery issue alone will make this move unfeasible.
Also, there is no app for vita. (Don't even think about going android)
YS?
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
No that is not correct.
Vita's main differentiating features are dual analog controls and great graphics. For most consumers (particularly in the handheld market) those are unimportant (ie boring).
Perhaps I'm language is strong, but Vita is a pretty crazy miscalculation. It's tough to dance around it.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
when has SCEA ever cared about handhelds? Oh and if you were actually at e3 you would see that vita booths were very strong. And also SCEE/SCEJ>>>>>>>>> SCEA when it comes to vita
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
This company will burn itself to the ground from it's stubbornness
Sony needs to adapt ASAP
This isn't the '80's anymore, you can't go through the motions, and think you're 1 gadget away from becoming relevant again
Tech is moving in an ungodly rate
What Sony R&D for 3-5 years today... is fucking ancient by the time it releases
Only way to grab customers is to make the customers feel like they are stealing your product, bargain galore while paying you for it
I used to say what needed to be in a package to get Vita going... now that shit goes out the window
Vita + 8GB (Minimum, phase out the 4GB... it's useless.. fucking 3.3GB for LBPKart Beta... come the fuck on!)
Throw in a first party game
Throw in a 3 month sub for video/music unlimited
Throw in a DD title (Motorstorm RC says Hi... you fools.. pre-installed... ready to go)
$50 PSN card (Yes... it's a lot of money... it's money going into your store, you stupid fucks!, if they start liking purchasing DD stuff... guess what you got another customer)
Good advertising
Sony needs to adapt ASAP
This isn't the '80's anymore, you can't go through the motions, and think you're 1 gadget away from becoming relevant again
Tech is moving in an ungodly rate
What Sony R&D for 3-5 years today... is fucking ancient by the time it releases
Only way to grab customers is to make the customers feel like they are stealing your product, bargain galore while paying you for it
I used to say what needed to be in a package to get Vita going... now that shit goes out the window
Vita + 8GB (Minimum, phase out the 4GB... it's useless.. fucking 3.3GB for LBPKart Beta... come the fuck on!)
Throw in a first party game
Throw in a 3 month sub for video/music unlimited
Throw in a DD title (Motorstorm RC says Hi... you fools.. pre-installed... ready to go)
$50 PSN card (Yes... it's a lot of money... it's money going into your store, you stupid fucks!, if they start liking purchasing DD stuff... guess what you got another customer)
Good advertising
Metallix87
Member
All I see are excuses.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Tablets have massive battery life so don't see the problem in that and Ps mobile will have apps
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
lol, no it didn't. Capcom had ZERO advertising for it in the US and Nintendo only threw it into a Valentines general 3DS ad after the fact.
Uncharted GA was hyped to high hell and was positioned as THE killer app for Vita launch. It's the best selling game on the system by far and overall that means it did about as well as... a 3DS bomb. lol.
And for specific numbers:
Japan
RE Revelations: 246,469
Uncharted GA: 58,213
USA
150k > RE Revelations > 130k
Uncharted GA > 200k
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
tgs is right around the corner. care to make a ban bet?(they aren't permanent irc?)
Got me there
But that's it really. I think it's rather unfortunate Japanese developers are so persistent in developing for Sony consoles.
Metallix87
Member
So the best selling Vita game did quite a bit worse than an alleged 3DS bomb. Amazing.
Dude, I'm not making any bet with you. Heck, I'm surprised I'm still wasting time responding to you after some of the ludicrous things you've posted in this topic. I MUST be extremely bored...
Horrible, horrible post....
Can I see the quote to this?.
Lol no, Resident Evil Revelations came out during a time where other big games where coming out, the 3DS audience is very interested in the M rated games.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
uncharted golden abyss hyped like hell? lol what world do you live in. I remember seeing commercials for resident evil revelations.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
So I take that as a no
chertipros
Member
Bro it was the premier vita game and THE game to get at the vita's launch. And resident evil revelations was not advertised by Capcom in the US. Nintendo did all the advertising for the game here
Count Dookkake
Member
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What are you talking about? It was THE game to get if you got a Vita. Sony did a lot to push that title, advertising everywhere and major coverage for weeks on every website and magazine...
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I live on planet Earth. You know, the one where Capcom decided not to advertise RER in the US.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
You know why Gravity Rush was talked about, played so much on people's Vita, it was the game was a new experience that can't be had on consoles
You can play at any pace
You can plat in 3 days if you want or take your time and enjoy the ride, might take a few weeks
No chapter loads, no stupid gimmicky requirements, doesn't force you to use Vita feature because they are there to be ham-fisted in
Uncharted GA was an example of taking the "Movie/Cinematic" experience, trying to pocketize it, adding in useless motion/touchscreen shenanigans, then breaking apart the story into 35 fucking chapters... some of the goddamn chapters are like 1 minute gameplay, 8 minute cutscene
The coolest aspect of GA even remotely that made me go, holy fuck that is clever, is you holding your Vita into the light, and moving your Vita around, the light would make the paper in the game show you wording hidden away
Rubbing on the Vita screen to get a charcoal painting after the first few times becomes boring
Piecing together ripped up pieces to see what it was became a chore after doing the first few also
You can play at any pace
You can plat in 3 days if you want or take your time and enjoy the ride, might take a few weeks
No chapter loads, no stupid gimmicky requirements, doesn't force you to use Vita feature because they are there to be ham-fisted in
Uncharted GA was an example of taking the "Movie/Cinematic" experience, trying to pocketize it, adding in useless motion/touchscreen shenanigans, then breaking apart the story into 35 fucking chapters... some of the goddamn chapters are like 1 minute gameplay, 8 minute cutscene
The coolest aspect of GA even remotely that made me go, holy fuck that is clever, is you holding your Vita into the light, and moving your Vita around, the light would make the paper in the game show you wording hidden away
Rubbing on the Vita screen to get a charcoal painting after the first few times becomes boring
Piecing together ripped up pieces to see what it was became a chore after doing the first few also
uncharted GA did well in europe
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
Marketing tends to be the excuse posters use when a product they like sells like shit.
lol, love the endless baiting but let's be honest - in terms of actual "marketshare" us = about 50% the total, so let's try to be fair...
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
It was advertised fairly well in the US
Monday Night Raw had constant replays of that commercial (hell they were showing RE6, it's due in October, but were showing commercials in fucking May/June)
I think even ESPN played it, if I'm not mistaken
GA I did not see 1 fucking commercial for it
A couple of VITA adds of #GAMECHANGER, that is all
I watch close to 100 hours of TV, every week
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Earth.
RE:R got half a spot alongside Mario 3D Land. The Flight lasted about two weeks. Marketing is more than commercials dude. Golden Abyss had a ton of exposure through various outlets.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Nintendo did. I seen the commercial
Dude English Premier League and other major sporting events don't count. Ignore magazine advertisements, web ads, and site coverage.
Projectjustice
Banned
Thats sad.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
The Vita isn't completely devoid of software success stories - Persona 4 Golden sold 137k in its first week. If I'm not mistaken, that means it had a stronger opening week on a single platform than any Persona game except for the original Persona 4 (Persona 4 Arena sold a tiny bit more with 138k in its first week but that's a multi-platform release). And Persona 4 Golden isn't a brand-new game, it's an enhanced port so I imagine Atlus is very pleased with how it's doing.
Given that all of the Persona games are available on either the PSP or Vita and the series has done well on those platforms (with the exception of P2:EP), I'm guessing Persona 5 will end up being released on the Vita, in addition to any home console releases it gets.
Given that all of the Persona games are available on either the PSP or Vita and the series has done well on those platforms (with the exception of P2:EP), I'm guessing Persona 5 will end up being released on the Vita, in addition to any home console releases it gets.
I admit that it is one of the factors you look at first if a game sells like shit. But here, an argument is made that RE:Revelations was marketed and Uncharted wasn't.
While I saw some commercials for RE:revelations, the coverage Uncharted got was way more, with extensive coverage both offline as online. Makes sense of course, since that was one (maybe evene THE) of the titles that was supposed to sell Vita's.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
lol what ? thats more than what uncharted got. Show me an uncharted commercial. What outlets are you talking about?
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Why do you care?
Metallix87
Member
You know what's something else that I've mentioned before that I think is an issue? The fucking name of the game.
Uncharted: Golden Abyss should've been called Uncharted 0, and it's sub-title should've been something more interesting than Golden Abyss.
If the game had been called "Uncharted 0: Drake's History" or something like that, it probably would've sold a bit better.
Uncharted: Golden Abyss should've been called Uncharted 0, and it's sub-title should've been something more interesting than Golden Abyss.
If the game had been called "Uncharted 0: Drake's History" or something like that, it probably would've sold a bit better.
Yeah ? No
It will well in Europe. We seriously dont have total number and uncharted is quite popular in europe
Europe -
UK -
01 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony Computer Ent.)
Germany -
01 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Spain -
01 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony Computer Ent.)
France -
01 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony Computer Ent.)
Ireland -
01 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony Computer Ent.)
Metallix87
Member
Provide some EU totals for both games, please.
you are in a minority - many people place the Uncharted games as thus:
U2>GA>U1>U3
I agree the charcol rubbing got old and the motion/touch seemed 'forced' (I always sticdk to real controls whenever I can anyway) but really, it's a fantastic game and I suspect the smaller chapters were to help it's portability
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
wow that's ridiculous. Why is re 6 even on ps3?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
The "wait for" excuse gets old fast. We were told to wait for E3 and everyone got Wonderbook instead of Vita.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
I actually agree with you. In retrospect my comment to you wasn't entirely clear. I guess I'm bemused by a lot of marketing comments in this thread (not yours).
electroplankton
Banned
Commercials? lol
Btw, Revelations would have not performed any better on Vita. It would have done something better if RE6 was not announced a few weeks before, probably.
They should've called it "Uncharted 0: Valley of the Drake" and ride the wave of popularity for Dark Souls!
You'd have to ask someone Capcom since that guy is an executive with Square Enix.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
The only US Revelations ad was the Valentines Day one from Nintendo, and it was a general system ad that led with SM3DL and finished with several game boxes on screen (Mario Kart, Tekken and OOT iirc). Capcom never ran any ads for it.
You might be thinking ORC, which was probably the commercial with the heaviest rotation from Capcom USA since RE5. They also started RE6 advertising early by including a snippet about the 360 demo with their Dragon's Dogma ad.
Kacho
Gold Member
*high five*
CitizenCope
Member
Just WOW is all.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I thought the general consensus was that it went U2 > U3 > U1 > U:GA. Haven't played U3 yet but based on playing about 50-66% of Golden Abyss, I'd say it's the worst in the series.
Not that it matters much. "Worst Uncharted" still equals "Pretty good game."
Not that it matters much. "Worst Uncharted" still equals "Pretty good game."