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Possible Sonic reboot in 2014, would be open world
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Phonomezer
Banned
Gee Sega, one step forward, thirty steps back.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
AwakenedCloud
Member
No! They just got it right with Generations. Don't go messing up all the recent good will you've built, Sega!
Big is packed in with every copy by default. Have to preorder the Super Sonic Edition to play as any other character, or buy an online code to do so.
You know, that sentence actually describes why it's a good idea for them to not even try anymore. They tried for more than 10 years to get Sonic in 3D "right" and after all that time the only thing they have achieved is making a formula that's merely "passable" in the fan's minds.
If they can't get it right, if it's just passable; why even try to make it "right" for the old fans? Why not reboot the franchise altogether and make it into something younger players will eat up? Why not just shit on the old fans that won't like your new games anyway?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You haven't given up hope for the franchise? Interesting.
I don't expect them to ever make a game that would reach Genesis tier. Ever. I guess my standards are lower, but I thought Generations was really good. Best time I've had with a Sonic game since the Genesis days. Not on their level, but still really good.
Mario is an anomaly. You'd be hard pressed to name another franchise that is "right", especially one that has been going for as long as Sonic.
Phonomezer
Banned
You didn't think this was cool?
Ugh, udders on his chest.
Metallix87
Member
I like the 3D formula from Colors and Generations.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
You didn't think this was cool?
Truthfully I never got the hate for that redesign, besides those weird-ass bottle caps on his chest
Why would you want another Unleashed? Unless you mean just the day stages' style, which came back twice!
It's quite sad that of the old school franchises, it seems only Nintendo is the only company who can make new games that can beat old ones in quality.
Sonic, Spyro, Crash, Banjo..you have to make tiers to fit all of the games in reasonably. But when a new Mario game comes out, it has the chance of being better than a lot of the other games in that franchise.
TheCongressman1
Member
The level design in both Unleashed and Colors is awful. Generations has some awesome levels though, and the best ones are much more open. Hmm...
Fair enough. We all have things like that. I'd love a 3D Secret of Mana game, but after SD4, I don't trust Square to do that.
You didn't think this was cool?
There have been worse redesigns in this industry. At least Human Robotnik finally explained why he can find the Chaos Emeralds everywhere.
Error Macro
Member
If "open world" means more like Sonic Adventure 1, then I'm all for it.
Sonic Adventure 3? Yes please.
Sonic Adventure 3? Yes please.
Give it to Sakurai.
What the fuck? People are AGAINST this?
The current Sonic formula is old, tired, broken. It needs to reboot and a complete reimagining from the ground up. This could be it.
The Sonic Adventure style had run its course years upon years ago - Generations was just more polish on a design that wasn't that good in the first place. Throw it away, do it all again. There's more than one way to do Sonic in 3D, they just need to let go of the past. They'll also never make a 2D Sonic as good as the run they had from Sonic 1 - Sonic 3&K so they should stop trying that too.
This is the best news for the Sonic series in years. Of course, there's every chance Sonic Team could fuck it up, but I'd rather they tried this than shat out something else based on existing designs.
The current Sonic formula is old, tired, broken. It needs to reboot and a complete reimagining from the ground up. This could be it.
The Sonic Adventure style had run its course years upon years ago - Generations was just more polish on a design that wasn't that good in the first place. Throw it away, do it all again. There's more than one way to do Sonic in 3D, they just need to let go of the past. They'll also never make a 2D Sonic as good as the run they had from Sonic 1 - Sonic 3&K so they should stop trying that too.
This is the best news for the Sonic series in years. Of course, there's every chance Sonic Team could fuck it up, but I'd rather they tried this than shat out something else based on existing designs.
mana is dead, friend. mana is dead. :'(
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Everything wrong with the franchise in the last decade has its roots in the Sonic Adventure games. Sonic 06 was the weight of all that crap collapsing on itself. Given this, why do people still want Sonic Adventure 3?
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Deleted member 81567
Unconfirmed Member
...what does he know?
I just fear that they're going to mess it up. Sonic Generations was one of the better games that I've played last year. If they step closer to Skylanders, I don't think it would be very good for me.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Unleashed, Colors, and Generations really aren't similar to Adventure at all and I thought Colors was actually really good despite some lack of polish. It's annoying to change now when the series has been on a major upswing over the last few years.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
They became misshapen due to checking Iblis's power level too much.
That's true. The design is truly off for me, though.CorvoSol said:
Then again, I don't care for Metal Sonic's redesign as Metal Overlord either.
I think there's an extremely high chance they'll fuck it up. Like, near 100%. It's shadow-of-their-former-selves Sonic Team, it's almost a given.
Still the most interesting Sonic news in years though.
What would be better is "Sega give Sonic to third party team to reimagine from the ground up". Then we can start talking the chances of a new Sonic game being good again.
No, they're just 2D Sonic games, which is the other Sonic design style that's been beaten to death in an attempt to better the original games. Which none of them have.
...what does he know?
He was working at Naughty Dog for the last few years, IIRC.
He left after Uncharted 1 to go work for Namco US as their head of design or something similar.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
They do have a good bit of 3D parts and a lot of the 2D parts don't play like Genesis games (though the classic ones in Generations do) and "2D" isn't really a style.
Guys, this is Sega, the company that radically throws away what works for no reason at all. Yuji Naka wanted Sonic 3 to be a 3D game because after 2 games apparently the formula was stale and the only reason Sonic 3 turned out to be the best game in the series is because making it 3D was too much work. The 3D work ended up being the special stages.
Slamtastic
Member
When I think "open world" I think something like Mario 64/Banjo/DK64 design, less "track"/rollercoaster like 3D Sonic games.
Could be good.
Could be good.
..Why'd he do that? What a downgrade. ):
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
You got to see his eyes in Sonic 06? What did they look like?
Yes, I consider that game the moment Sonic died.
AwakenedCloud
Member
Uhh, not quite. They're almost 50/50 between 2D and 3D, both of which don't play similar to their predecessors at all.
^^^ Eeeh, fine. They're still very much based off the linear narrow path styles of the previous games though, with bits tacked on. Who cares.
They're 'okay' at best. At the very, very, best. Typically they're a lot worse. Like I said, needs a complete reboot and rethink from scratch to become something special. The original Sonic games went toe-to-toe with Mario; I won't be happy unless Sonic is that good again.
Not that he will be, because Sonic Team have lost it and Sega refuses farm him out to competent third party developers. And not that this news is true anyway. It's probably not.
EDIT: Oh, the Skylanders style toy ideas are shit. It wouldn't be a new Sonic idea with some shit thing added to it, I suppose.
They're 'okay' at best. At the very, very, best. Typically they're a lot worse. Like I said, needs a complete reboot and rethink from scratch to become something special. The original Sonic games went toe-to-toe with Mario; I won't be happy unless Sonic is that good again.
Not that he will be, because Sonic Team have lost it and Sega refuses farm him out to competent third party developers. And not that this news is true anyway. It's probably not.
EDIT: Oh, the Skylanders style toy ideas are shit. It wouldn't be a new Sonic idea with some shit thing added to it, I suppose.