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Prediction time: Best looking PS3 game at TGS 06

Error2k4 said:
that's CG dude from the same pic you posted later....

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noticed her hair in the bottom shots and compare that to the hair in the pic Im quoting it's pretty easy to see what's CG and what isnt
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You have cataracts. The hair is nothing like those CGI shots.
 
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On announced games
I'll have to say Heavenly Sword or FFXIII

or Lair or MGS4...

I really like how Afrika looks too D:
 
I think it's real time and just smoothed like some of the other shots we've seen.

The animation, fluidity, and depth of the hair is just not the same in that shot.
 
Whatever. I give up. I still don't think any of the stuff in the trailer is in game (I never said real time).



I'll end my opinion by stating that I don't think that the trailer is indicative of what the final game will look like when a human is playing it
 
Error2k4 said:
ff135gg1qd2.jpg

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now who has cataracts?
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You!

You're trying to compare a shitty quality picture of a battle sequence to an awesome quality (lower res) CUTSCENE (realtime). The CGI hair isn't sectioned off nearly as much as the real-time model.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
You!

You're trying to compare a shitty quality picture of a battle sequence to an awesome quality (lower res) CUTSCENE (realtime). The CGI hair isn't sectioned off nearly as much as the real-time model.
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:lol

now it's shitty quality? even with the shit quality you can noticed clearly how smooth her hair is in the GC pic.

btw you were the one who used this pic to compare first.
 
Actually, he's right.

I just noticed: the hair looks smoother, but it's much more SEGMENTED in the CGI model. It looks like real hair in the way it flows and separates. The hair in that shot-- and in the real time models-- are like strands chunked together.
 
Error2k4 said:
:lol

now it's shitty quality? even with the shit quality you can noticed clearly how smooth her hair is in the GC pic.

btw you were the one who used this pic to compare first.
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.......

Of course it's much better. THAT'S A CUTSCENE. The other is from a battle. Now, go take a look at screenshots from FFX or FFXII. Compare the real-time gameplay models to the real-time cutscene models. It's still clarly the in-game hair. The CGI hair is far more natural. I've never once claimed that the graphics will look like that in, say, battles (though the approximation is quite good). It isn't CGI, though - It's basically the equivalent of what we've seen from MGS4 so far (all real-time cutscene, no *gameplay* excpet that we do have gameplay examples from FFXIII).

And yes, that pic with the red cirlce is shitty quality.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Actually, he's right.

I just noticed: the hair looks smoother, but it's much more SEGMENTED in the CGI model. It looks like real hair in the way it flows and separates. The hair in that shot-- and in the real time models-- are like strands chunked together.
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Bingo. You can mostly tell with the bottom strands which are much bigger chunks.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
Whatever. I give up. I still don't think any of the stuff in the trailer is in game (I never said real time).



I'll end my opinion by stating that I don't think that the trailer is indicative of what the final game will look like when a human is playing it
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oh, of course not... i'm betting that it will look more or less like untold legends. :p
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Actually, he's right.

I just noticed: the hair looks smoother, but it's much more SEGMENTED in the CGI model. It looks like real hair in the way it flows and separates. The hair in that shot-- and in the real time models-- are like strands chunked together.
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At least someone else sees it. I don't see how you can't (unless you're just trying not to).
 
Error2k4 said:
:lol

now it's shitty quality? even with the shit quality you can noticed clearly how smooth her hair is in the GC pic.

btw you were the one who used this pic to compare first.
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Watch the damn trailer guys sh**. It's the same part!!!

>:(
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
And yes, that pic with the red cirlce is shitty quality.
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so you used the pic to compare first but now I use it to compare and I cant because it's shit quality?

I still say that's CG, how do you know it's from a cutscene? if it isnt CG... well cool I guess.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
There is a clear difference (besides resolution) in the bottem shots of the comparison pic and the bottem pic.
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Well, most of those images did come from Gamespot's shitty video feed. Here's a better comparison from the GTtv clip:
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Excepting compression artifacts and color balancing, they're not far off. I do think the official shots were touched up a little though, and I would only go so far as to say that the E3 trailer was 'in-engine' stuff.
 
People thought I was trolling in the LO thread when someone asked if LO looked better than FFXIII and I responded by saying something like "it can't possibly look better than FFXIII, as most of GAF doesn't think FFXIII is real."

Proof positive.
 
Oh, and it's possible to have blocky hair in CG. It's just a waste of CG. If you're not going to make the best possible looking graphics with a CG video, why waste disc space when you can make the same blocky hair in a real time cutscene?
 
Error2k4 said:
so you used the pic to compare first but now I use it to compare and I cant because it's shit quality?

I still say that's CG, how do you know it's from a cutscene? if it isnt CG... well cool I guess.
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Have you seen the trailer?
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
People thought I was trolling in the LO thread when someone asked if LO looked better than FFXIII and I responded by saying something like "it can't possibly look better than FFXIII, as most of GAF doesn't think FFXIII is real."

Proof positive.
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I'm not even going to argue with you. Let me guess, you probably thought Killzone was in game didn't you (I did too, it's okay to admit. After what we found out about killzone, I'm pretty pessimistic now)
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
Oh, and it's possible to have blocky hair in CG. It's just a waste of CG. If you're not going to make the best possible looking graphics with a CG video, why waste disc space when you can make the same blocky hair in a real time cutscene?
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This is the EXACT reason why FFXIII will look better than LO.

You guys still say it's fake. :lol
 
Error2k4 said:
so you used the pic to compare first but now I use it to compare and I cant because it's shit quality?

I still say that's CG, how do you know it's from a cutscene? if it isnt CG... well cool I guess.
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It is a cutscene because....

1) Obivously, that's not a shot you'll experience while playing.

2) It's the realtime model.

3) It looks better than the real-time stuff in the trailer (which was a battle, basically), but not as good as the CGI stuff... it's clearly the in-game model though. Again, just look at the difference in quality in the battle models of FFX and the real-time cutscene models. It's immense.
 
:lol:lol:lol

The pics between GC and realtime are so similar that I can't even understand who thinks the pic is CG and who's not without reading the original posts.

Oh and btw dirtmonkey37 I know what you were implying. Do you know what I was?
 
mckmas8808 said:
This is the EXACT reason why FFXIII will look better than LO.

You guys still say it's fake. :lol
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I still think that that video is not a good representation of what it will be like playing the game
 
Ajax said:
:lol:lol:lol

The pics between GC and realtime are so similar that I can't even understand who thinks the pic is CG and who's not without reading the original posts.

Oh and btw dirtmonkey37 I know what you were implying. Do you know what I was?
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which post of mine?
 
FF13 is real-time, why is there even a 5 month late debate, again, on this topic after it has been said its real-time. Sad just sad.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Think or hope?
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Why the **** would I hope? I hope it looks like that so I can cum in all my ****ing pants and have to go back to mervyns and spend my PS3 2008.5 money on new damn pants!


...wait. I want my PS3 2008.5 money..
 
mckmas8808 said:
This is the EXACT reason why FFXIII will look better than LO.

You guys still say it's fake. :lol
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what the point of bringing LO here? seriously.

It is a cutscene because....

1) Obivously, that's not a shot you'll experience while playing.

2) It's the realtime model.

3) It looks better than the real-time stuff in the trailer (which was a battle, basically), but not as good as the CGI stuff... it's clearly the in-game model though. Again, just look at the difference in quality in the battle models of FFX and the real-time cutscene models. It's immense.
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1) that could mean it's CG too. Im not arguing with you whether that's a battle pic

2) you dont know for sure and neither do I.

3) again look at the pic Kurowa San posted, there isnt that much different between the models, the pic we are using could have been touch up

anyway I think it's CG you think it's realtime I think it's best agree to disagree.
 
JoJo13 said:
FF13 is real-time, why is there even a 5 month late debate, again, on this topic after it has been said its real-time. Sad just sad.
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Everyone lowered their next-gen expectations a bit too soon. Though if it all turns out to be hogwash (highly doubtful) I think I'll officially give up too.
 
JoJo13 said:
FF13 is real-time, why is there even a 5 month late debate, again, on this topic after it has been said its real-time. Sad just sad.
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Okay, here's what I will say I think.





I believe that this trailer is real time in the same way the tekken demo and the FFVIII demo at (I forget the E3) E3 2000 was. That was real time right? Yeah, no tekken game looked as good as it did...
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
Why the **** would I hope? I hope it looks like that so I can cum in all my ****ing pants and have to go back to mervyns and spend my PS3 2008.5 money on new damn pants!


...wait. I want my PS3 2008.5 money..
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I think hope too, because you already think that LO looks better so....
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
Everyone lowered their next-gen expectations a bit too soon.
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I've kept mine the same. I guess that's why i'm constantly unimpressed with most next gen stuff. But atleast games like MGS4 and FFXIII are around to show that you don't have to lower expectations.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
I believe that this trailer is real time in the same way the tekken demo and the FFXIII demo at (I forget the E3) E3 2000 was. That was real time right? Yeah, no tekken game looked as good as it did...
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....

not this again.
 
Error2k4 said:
what the point of bringing LO here? seriously.
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Read the thread. A couple a smart guys want to say that LO will look the best even though this is a PS3 thread.

So that's why I brung up LO.
 
Error2k4 said:
what the point of bringing LO here? seriously.


1) that could mean it's CG too. Im not arguing with you whether that's a battle pic

2) you dont know for sure and neither do I.

3) again look at the pic Kurowa San posted, there isnt that much different between the models, the pic we are using could have been touch up

anyway I think it's CG you think it's realtime I think it's best agree to disagree.
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Because xbox fans brought it up and not us? You see they're so full of FUD that they had to mention LO once the heard "best looking games" and "PS3" in the same sentence.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Read the thread. A couple a smart guys want to say that LO will look the best even though this is a PS3 thread.

So that's why I brung up LO.
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then dont take the bait!
 
mckmas8808 said:
I think hope too, because you already think that LO looks better so....
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Yeah, I think I said, "I think LO will look better in game"


If I didn't, then that's what I meant



There's a difference. I'm basing my comments off demo impressions of Che Chou and the other guy.


All I have for FFXIII is a trailer which no one from SE has made press release on and no one has played.



NO ONE HAS PLAYED FFXIII except for the people working on it.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
Why the **** would I hope? I hope it looks like that so I can cum in all my ****ing pants and have to go back to mervyns and spend my PS3 2008.5 money on new damn pants!


...wait. I want my PS3 2008.5 money..
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So tell me where do you base your "thinking"? It certainly isn't based on screens or videos you've seen.
 
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