GrizzleBoy
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It is a pretty mediocre game though.
Theres not much new or special about it to experience at all. To the point where it single handedly made me bored of my ps4 within a few days of getting it.
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Press Play: Xbox One GPU "very capable", will be competitive for many years
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It is a pretty mediocre game though.
Theres not much new or special about it to experience at all. To the point where it single handedly made me bored of my ps4 within a few days of getting it.
Muppet of a Man
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The best parts of Ryse graphically include the intricate facial rigging and animations, armor physics, and some of the lighting, far and away. The rest of the game graphically looks like an updated God of War from last gen, which is definitely a good thing.
I have to agree and this is coming from a mainly PS4 player.
Prince Vultan
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What's been 'new' or 'special' about any new gen game so far exactly?
Shaunboy97
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Perhaps a different GIF
Anyway back on topic... The game looks amazing for $15!! Better love story than Knack
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Did you drop the mic at 16fps? Because if anything Ryse shows that the XB1 GPU is already struggling severely.
Sword Of Doom
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What's up with this nonsense again? MS bringing this shit up constantly.
GrizzleBoy
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Forza 5s rumble triggers are quite a different experience imo. It makes it different than any other console racer.
Battfield having 64 players on console.
Dead Risings lots of zombies with no loading screens except when you die.
Stuff that changes the game that provides new experiences not possible last gen.
Killzone doesnt really do do anything new. Its a shooter. Its okay, but its still arun around and shoot people shooter.
Sword Of Doom
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Yeah a bunch of really nice looking characters in so so environments. The game doesn't look as good as you make it out to be. And 900p 30fps isn't something to brag about.
lighthouse777
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great article
no shit
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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That's not what the article was about.
Muppet of a Man
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I give him a lot of credit for at least admitting it. It's hard for many to even own up to any sort of a preference.
Yeah, claiming that the 360's GPU was "competitive for many years" and using that as a base for how the XB1 will do the same is really pushing it.
The 360's GPU was only competitive for a few years and that was because it was both quite powerful for it's time and it had more advanced architecture than other GPUs, both things the XB1 does not have going for it.
TheUnsunghero26
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Yes, because that is the actual resolution the game runs at.
rokkerkory
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Every single X1 thread that has an ounce of good news lol
The One and Done
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Yup. And it'll only get better from here.
what does 'competitive' mean? 360 and PS3 did not stay competitive for long at all so I'm not even sure his analysis of 360 is right.
If he just means getting an image that sort of looks from far away to the uninitiated like it can produce visuals in the same range, perhaps. If you even get remotely analytical the whole argument would fall apart - 360 and PS3 games from the get go were having problems hitting basic 720p resolution and massive framerate issues, visual effects in a whole 'nother ballpark.
To say nothing of the fact that the only reason EVEN THAT was possible was -only- because 360 and PS3 tech was actually holding back the average big PC development. When that was not the case, usually the games destroyed what was possible on 360 and PS3.
If he just means getting an image that sort of looks from far away to the uninitiated like it can produce visuals in the same range, perhaps. If you even get remotely analytical the whole argument would fall apart - 360 and PS3 games from the get go were having problems hitting basic 720p resolution and massive framerate issues, visual effects in a whole 'nother ballpark.
To say nothing of the fact that the only reason EVEN THAT was possible was -only- because 360 and PS3 tech was actually holding back the average big PC development. When that was not the case, usually the games destroyed what was possible on 360 and PS3.
TonkuySlon
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Yep, like clockwork...every thread, same people repeating the same nonsense. I honestly haven't been in a single PS4 thread talking nonsense or poking at the other side. You'd think now that the two devices have launched people would be playing or something.
Nope, same stuff people trying to convince us just how HORRIBLE the XOne is going to do. Because, you know, maths...
Caayn
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He gets a lot of credits for saying that outloud and actually knowing himself. Besides his posts are usually well thought-out and he does a good job at explaining himself.
TonkuySlon
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Doesn't matter...console wars need to be waged.
famousmortimer
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Yes, the GPU is good. The xbox one has some nice looking games and they will get better looking over time as every system before it has.
How are we still debating this stuff?
How are we still debating this stuff?
Because the comment is wrong. 360 and PS3 did -not- remain competitive with PC. It's bullshit. Bullshit is always pushed back against. It's not about whether XBO could conceivably have good looking titles, it'll have them, they just won't be competitive with the high end.
Paracelsus
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They are claiming Halo 7 will look anywhere near as good as Uncharted 7, that's what, and I believe it's worth debating.
Single-handedly made you bored of the PS4 in its entirety?!? Gosh, not you too!
uncledonnie
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Time to take a posting break. Calling out 'so so environments' in Ryse makes you look like a clueless fanboy.
This would have been a better discussion point instead of "herp derp console warz". It would be impossible to honestly think that the 180 GPU would be competitive with high end PC GPUs. Hell, PS4 either. You can't stand still next to a constantly improving target and say "we're competitive".
George Claw M.D.
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Do you have a link to that GAF "analyst's" post, claiming Xbone couldn't do 1080p? Because I've never seen any Gaffers make such a claim. I've seen some people talk about how devs may need to sacrifice things like deferred rendering at 1080p due to the small amount of ESRAM.
Off the top of my head, ElTorro has been pretty vocal in discussing the tech in the Xbone. Here are a few of his posts talking about ESRAM limitations and its effect on games that target 1080p:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=82277913#post82277913
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=80376953#post80376953
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87442342#post87442342
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87582751#post87582751
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87849166#post87849166
sleeping_dragon
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Who?
The Xbone's GPU (or rather the PC equivent with almost exactly the same specs) wasn't competitive in early 2012 when it released and it certainly isn't competitive now. It's a lower-mid range budget GPU that will have to rely on cutting corners to compete.
The people complaining about negative reactions to good Xbone news should explain to us how this is "news." It not news, it's an opinion from a Microsoft-owned dev likely ONLY working on Xbone games.
The people complaining about negative reactions to good Xbone news should explain to us how this is "news." It not news, it's an opinion from a Microsoft-owned dev likely ONLY working on Xbone games.
Yup. PS4 won't be competitive either with what good PCs are capable of. Now, even. In a year or two? Forget not being competitive, it'll just be another gen of consoles holding PCs back.
That's the true gauge of how wrong the comment is. Anyone who would say "XBO will never have good visuals because of its horrendously underpowered hardware" would obviously be wrong, it'll produce some pretty nice stuff despite the hardware limitations. So will PS4, even though those limitations are substantially less than XBO's, they're still behind the competitive curve on PC. But 'competitive'? Either he's going to have to redefine the terms of what he means there or he's just wrong.
Wow. That looks amazing. Is that an Xbox One exclusive or is it also on 360 and/or PC?Sweet....@ $15 I'll give it a run through.
That didn't stop forum goers from saying that exact thing the entirety of last gen. The fabled $800+ computers that you needed to run 360 and PS3 cross-platform games at 6-8 years in the generation.
Caayn
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It's also coming to the Xbox 360.
I agree. Funny thing is he's making that statement as if it's ok to just bend the definition of "competitive" until it snaps in half.
Undoubtedly. I was probably one of them until I got a PC. Hilarious how that works!
fatgamecat
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A few years from now you'll probably be able to buy a $150 AMD APU that outperforms next gen consoles. Right now Xbox One and PS4 have AMD's best SoCs, but that tech will trickle down into their PC retail products.
Windom Earle
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X360 GPU was very capable and competitive. Xbone GPU is an outdated piece of tech by 2013 standards.
Delusibeta
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Perhaps a different GIF
Anyway back on topic... The game looks amazing for $15!! Better love story than Knack
Still looks like a 360 game, and the bottom picture looks worse than Trine 2 on the WiiU.
silver5liter
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lol, k
Let's be serious, Ryse does not look like a 360 game. That 360 gen is still here and we can clearly see the distinction, it's not time for people to "looks like a N64 game" these titles.
Edit: If you said maybe it PLAYED like a shitty 360 game, a poor man's Arkham City, you'd be closer to accurate
Edit: If you said maybe it PLAYED like a shitty 360 game, a poor man's Arkham City, you'd be closer to accurate
CouldBeWorse
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You're technically right, BUT...
Most gamers don't have the stomach for the frequent upgrade cycle to stay "competitive." It's better for the industry to give consumers standardized hardware that lasts for 5-10 years, with it being "good enough" for most of that cycle.
It ensures that developers aren't CONSTANTLY chasing new tech and that a much wider audience can enjoy content, allowing more big (and small!) budget games to be made.
fatgamecat
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Dat i7 PC dominance.
Crystal is a hell of a drug.
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