BigEmil
Junior Member
PS4 Pro still has multiple 60fps titles that's not present on PS4 like The Surge, Infamous SS and FL, No Man's Sky etc
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Prey Patch 1.04 Adds PS4 Pro Support
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No, I don't think it's technologically feasible on a PS4 Pro for all games, and even if it were, the focus simply isn't there.
NullPointer
Member
Pro owners will give you two different answers because there are two different answers.
Some want 4K resolution, some want better 1080p performance and visuals. Pro patches usually (but not always) provide both.
Personally, I'm all about solid framerates and strong AA at 1080p. But 4K TV owners want that high resolution action too.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
I wish The Order 1886 was updated to support PS4 PRO. The game had great textures with good parallax mapping but the lack of anistropic filtering at long distance was killing it and when it had good AF, the textures lacked some bumps.
So true, we could get all games on PRO 4k 60 with low graphic settings.. but who wants that?
For instance, say you have a computer that could run some game on low at 1440p smoothly, but at 1080p you can run it medium/high. Which will provide the best experience, the extra pixels or the smoother textures?
I'm with you, I rather have solid framerates and strong AA at 1080p.
Karspankey
Banned
Thanks for the impressions! I'm glad I stopped right when you get the boost pack then.
RedAssedApe
Banned
fyi 39.99 at target this week. for some reason you can't currently buy it on amazon but they usually will pricematch if enough people submit competitor pricing
i think dishonored 2 still doesn't have any pro support (might just be 1080p users though)?
i think dishonored 2 still doesn't have any pro support (might just be 1080p users though)?
That just means those games were mainly GPU depended even up to 60 fps. You won't find a lot of those. Infamous SS has an unlocked framerate that's often in the 40's so it's hardly a 30 -> 60 fps jump. I couldn't really find any FPS tests either so I don't know how stable the framerate is on the Pro. What's FL btw?
Dishonored 2 is 1440p but doesn't downsample
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
I was mistaken I confused Dishonored 2 with Prey.
I am pretty sure they can still reach 1440p even with those improvements.
WickedLaharl
Member
It's pathetic that bethesda shipped the game with pro support labeled on the box and took almost a month to patch it in.
Sony should not allow a situation like prey to happen again. Luckily i didn't buy the game but I've already beaten it.
Sony should not allow a situation like prey to happen again. Luckily i didn't buy the game but I've already beaten it.
FL is First Light, the standalone expansion to Second Son
Neither are locked but they stay upper 50s most of the time. They also do have 1800c modes with the same performance profile as the base PS4
brickarts295
Member
thelastword
Banned
Well tbh, we don't disagree here, some people may say the CPU's are weak, but I don't believe this game is so CPU bound....The RX 480 run this at over 100fps at 1080p on very high settings, the 1060 reaches highs of 155fps at the same rez at best settings too, so I think 60fps/1080p at very high settings is possible on PRO...
Hell, even if it's CPU bound, which I very much doubt looking at this title, I believe an unlocked mode with ultra settings would play much better than a plain 30fps....on PRO.
We disagree here, I believe both are important...I was never one who ranked up all graphical settings to play at 480p resolution. Visuals are increasingly crisper and sharper at high rez and you can resolve much more of that detail at a higher resolution. It makes no sense to have the best textures on or the best filtering or the best shadows on when your resolution remains low....
In any case, the PRO can do the best visuals with a nice boost in resolution. You don't have to sacrifice one for another in this scenario....
The best bet here is for the devs to offer us a 1800cb -2160cb 30fps mode and a 1080p 60fps mode as well.....
Definitely agree. They need to take more control of the Pro situation.
There is no mandate.
thelastword
Banned
Hey, I swear, update The Order 1886 and Driveclub to 1800CB or 2160CB with 16xAF, 8XMSAA with TAA and I will ask for nothing more...I swear.....
Come to think of it, I hope Sony has some surprise PRO patch announcements ready for E3....Apart from those mentioned above...Bloodborne, Until Dawn and Unity would be nice to have patched.....However, if they only gave us 1886 and DC...I'd be fine.....
I don't think we have all the receipts on the patch yet.....
Green Ninja
Banned
Is this something you turn on in the menu or does the game automatically know its running on a PRO and switch on the higher effects on its own?
Once the patch is installed it should be automatic.
FusedAtoms
Member
Will buy the game now! Updates sound great!
bargeparty
Member
Any comparison out yet?
OfTheOverflow
Member
Awesome, will pick it up when I get a chance now.
thelastword
Banned
Well technically, once the PRO supports 1080p resolution and is not worse in performance than the base PS4, that's considered PRO support, but we expect more because the GPU uplift is strong enough to do much more than that....and veritably so because we bought that pro for better performance, 4k, Checkerboarding resolutions, 16xAF, better AA and all that Jazz.....so anything below that is uncivilized....( a la Hulk Hogan)...
ElMexiMerican
Member
Too bad I already beat the game when it first released, at least others will get a better experience.
psychotron
Member
I'll be buying a Pro copy after I finish my XB1 version. Game is amazing and I'd love to play through again with these improvements.
SenkiDala
Member
Well I'm talking for myself obviously, but since 2 years I wait to buy games because 1: prices drop fast, and 2: I then buy the "all patched" version, which is what I want to play.
I've been kinda upset by some "unfinished" games on this gen, like Witcher 3 for exemple (but it's obviously not the only one). And pay 50 day one for a game that will be priced 25 by the time it's fully patched... well, it's not for me anymore.
But yes I'll buy Prey, I've really been looking forward to it.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Agreed on both counts
Releases with no pro enhancements should not be happening at all imo
NullPointer
Member
That's the lesson most game releases this gen have put forward. Waiting for an update or two makes for a great time to jump in. Prices are lower and the biggest gripes are usually tackled in some form by then if not altogether fixed.
Every game I've waited a few months on has been worth it.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
This this false. You spread this misinformation frequently.
Pro Support is, in fact, what you label as Pro Enhancements
They are the same
A game running on the Pro is not Pro Support as that compatibility is natural, its the same gen, its still PS4. ?
Games were all supposedly required to launch with proper Pro Support, meaning enhancements , even if all that meant was improved FR stability or higher resolution output (with no other benefits) for 4k displays
The standard has not been met by many devs this far and it's a problem that Scorpio is aiming to mop the floor with the Pro in regards to
These are facts
psychotron
Member
Oh man. Dark10X we need you!!!
family_guy
Member
From what I've played of Prey, it's a bit more open but has a scale similar to the Bioshock Collection which targeted 60fps on standard PS4. Prey isn't much of a looker compared to Bioshock either. Maybe it's the engine they used that prevented it from running better.
BigEmil
Junior Member
There's alot of physics in Prey, physics is demanding.
Also, cryengine isn't so optimised for performance.
BLUElightCory
Member
Damn, I just finished it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Whelp, glad I didn't buy the game before it was patched. Here's hoping we get a DF or NXGamer video on this soon so we can see the improvements and specifically what (if any) improvements are in the controls.
edit: would have loved a resolution boost as well. Homefront shows that you can do a great Pro patch, increase resolution to 1440p and not lose performance.
edit: would have loved a resolution boost as well. Homefront shows that you can do a great Pro patch, increase resolution to 1440p and not lose performance.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
PS4 version of this game (maybe Xbox as well I don't know) was plagued with most severe input lag I've seen since probably KZ2 or UC3 at launch, before they patched it. It seriously affected playability. On top of that, they wrote on the box that Pro is supported, but not only it wasn't, they didn't even comment if it ever will be. You have to admit that this combo wouldn't exactly instill confidence in a potentially undecided buyer. I liked the stuff that happened in the demo, but decided this was a definite wait and see, just because of the input lag alone. I was actually debating just the other day whether I should buy the PC version for my laptop, which is noticeably weaker for gaming than Pro, just to have a version that will be easier to play, even if it's uglier. When I gravitate towards buying a game for a weaker hardware on which I don't normally prefer playing games, it should tel you enough how much I thought the PS4 version was compromised.
Futurevoid
Member
Already finished it and unless they releas a patch to substantially reduce the abhorrent load times, I'll look into the PC version on the cheap for a future playthrough.