MirageDwarf
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If it happens, I don't think that bigger one will be more than another $50.Iced_Eagle said:
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Price Cut Official - Arcade $279, 20GB $299, 60GB $349, $120GB $449
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Randy Lanzarote
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duk said:
I'll agree to this, price cut as soon as Jasper rears its head. I don't think that in this economic climate companies will be cutting prices for the hell of it. Everyone is battening down the hatches and trying to keep the accounting books looking respectable.
Monocle
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What with DLC, XBLA's ever-expanding library of appealing titles and dozens of save files per game (in many cases), an active gamer's 20 gig HDD is left with minimal room for the fun nonessentials like demos and videos. As a shameless demo whore and digital packrat, it's a pain for me to have to worry about my 360's hard drive space every time some cool new thing comes along on Marketplace. Bringing it Home for E3 '08 is going to test the limits of both my HDD and my patience. To me, more space is definitely welcome.Bossman said:
So, this is basically a fire sale for the 20GB before replacing it at the same price point with a 60GB model, interesting.
In my view they should have stuck with their 3 current models and reduced the price of the 20GB to $299 anyway, but what do I know?
Edit: Also, I have to say the gap between the 60GB and 120GB SKUs would be far too great once the 60GB hits, paying $100 more for 20>120GB and a nice black console is one thing, paying the same price difference for 60>120GB is quite another. I expect sales for the Elite to drop like a stone until that price drops.
In my view they should have stuck with their 3 current models and reduced the price of the 20GB to $299 anyway, but what do I know?
Edit: Also, I have to say the gap between the 60GB and 120GB SKUs would be far too great once the 60GB hits, paying $100 more for 20>120GB and a nice black console is one thing, paying the same price difference for 60>120GB is quite another. I expect sales for the Elite to drop like a stone until that price drops.
GarthVaderUK
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Skilotonn said:
GarthVaderUK
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Draft said:
Time to put Operation Waggle SKU in motion and step it up a gear?
It's a step in the right direction for sure. Marketplace is such a huge part of the console with all the DLC and Video Store etc that it makes sense for a bigger HDD. 60GB is a nice sweet spot between the two PS3 SKU's (40/80) as well. A $299 60GB Jasper 360 will be really popular this fall I think.
This'll pretty much kill sales of their Elite SKU though - 60GB will be fine for nearly everyone. I think it'd be a good idea to include WiFi and a year subscription to XBL with the Elite to differentiate it some more.
This'll pretty much kill sales of their Elite SKU though - 60GB will be fine for nearly everyone. I think it'd be a good idea to include WiFi and a year subscription to XBL with the Elite to differentiate it some more.
Bossman said:
It's actually more than tripling the usabale space. Figure 13GB usable on the 20GB drive vs. 53GB usable on the 60GB.
As much as I'd like the space for a rainy day, I'm one of the people that doesn't really need it. I think I've still got around 10GB free on my 20GB. For me, the download speed over a wired connection is fast enough that I don't think twice about deleting a demo once I've played it a few times. Even with only 3GB used on my drive, my download history probably totals in the hundreds of gigabytes.
akachan ningen said:
It depends on what you want.
Someone who doesn't care about xbox live and xbox live arcade (which you should, at least the latter!) will be fine with a core.
20 GB is most likely to appeal to gamers, who only really need the storage for the above, which 20 GB handles quite easily.
Can't see a reason to get the 60 GB while the 20 GB is so cheap.
Elite's for people who want to be downloading a lot of HD content from XBLM.
PuppetMaster
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So this is obviously just a clearance sale of the 20GB sku.
Any guesses on how many 20GB there currently are in the channels? There can't be more than a few hundred thousand right?
Any guesses on how many 20GB there currently are in the channels? There can't be more than a few hundred thousand right?
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Bravo, MS. 4 SKUs. You will have that casual gamer in no time. I mean, why wouldn't you? Buying one of your consoles is so simple. 0.o
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Microsofts E3 is gonna suck, we already know nearly everything.
permutated
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M3wThr33 said:
Yeah, it's one of the stupidest things this gen: mult sku's (regardless of company)
2 skus is too much.
The whole point of the "Core" SKU from the get-go was to have a unit at mass market price so sales could really accelerate. So what is MS thinking at this point?
Either:
1) Don't want to "cheapen" the console when compared to the Wii (they shouldn't be focused on the Wii, they aren't competing for Wii sales, everyone who wants a Wii is focused on getting it and nothing else)
2) They can't (highly unlikely)
3) Weak dollar (even more reason to reduce the price to have a highly affordable SKU out there)
It's funny how the armchair analysts at GAF called it as soon as the SKU was announced in 2005.
It's funny how nonsensical MS has been this generation in terms of packaging and promoting their product. So many aspects of the 360 are great...but they totally fumbled the ball in the marketing and promotion of the console.
Either:
1) Don't want to "cheapen" the console when compared to the Wii (they shouldn't be focused on the Wii, they aren't competing for Wii sales, everyone who wants a Wii is focused on getting it and nothing else)
2) They can't (highly unlikely)
3) Weak dollar (even more reason to reduce the price to have a highly affordable SKU out there)
It's funny how the armchair analysts at GAF called it as soon as the SKU was announced in 2005.
It's funny how nonsensical MS has been this generation in terms of packaging and promoting their product. So many aspects of the 360 are great...but they totally fumbled the ball in the marketing and promotion of the console.
permutated
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itsgreen said:except, everyone wishes that that one sku company had a more beefy second sku
Not really..this is console gaming...it should be universal.
Randy Lanzarote
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1. The Elite needs something to make it seem more...well, Elite! Wireless dongle would be a very useful addition in the box, although I think that an extra controller/games bundle might be more likely.
2. With the increase in the standard HDD size, the Arcade's 256mb memory stick looks very paltry indeed. I think they should up the bundled memory unit to 512mb to make that bit more attractive. (Especially since the Arcade is aimed at the casual gaming Guitar Hero/Rock Band/Lips sort of crowd. Give them a bit more space to download those track pack DLC to)
2. With the increase in the standard HDD size, the Arcade's 256mb memory stick looks very paltry indeed. I think they should up the bundled memory unit to 512mb to make that bit more attractive. (Especially since the Arcade is aimed at the casual gaming Guitar Hero/Rock Band/Lips sort of crowd. Give them a bit more space to download those track pack DLC to)
sionyboy said:
I think the whole purpose of the memory unit is to basically say, "If you want to play games like GTA IV, Gears 2, Madden 09...you just need to buy this $279 console".
That is to say, the mem card covers game saves and that's about it. Anyone looking into downloading demos and playing XBLA games would need to get an HDD.
FightyF said:
IMO, they can't at this moment, not untill a proper price drop comes this fall.
They can't have the price of the premium be lower than the Arcade + harddrive... so untill they have a price drop across the line, the Arcade can't be cheaper.
I think MS is quite ok with the HW sale numbers, they most likely make money at this point on every console sold, and with the software numbers, they are just very very good.
It is just waiting now till the hardware refresh kicks in, and not far after that the console will lower in price again.
WickedLaharl
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just let the core die for fucks sake. and a hearty lol at 4 skus.
bigmakstudios
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They should get rid of everything but the 60 gb SKU.
Phife Dawg
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They just had a price-drop. The Premium is only 10 more expensive than the Wii - I don't think they'll add more value to the Premium package (plus they also have the value bundle with Forza 2 and VP for 269,99 ).mclem said:
But if you've waited this long you might as well wait till later this year, they might have another price drop then.
bigmakstudios said:
No, they shouldn't. I want an Elite.
Edit: Shit. It is $399 at Amazon. Weird.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OYMSL6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
yes, the same thing sony did when it introduced the 80GB PS3.. that is EXACTLY what it is. A price drop without really dropping prices. So no, I don't see sony lowering the prices. For $50 more you get a Blu-ray player, and frankly now that blu-rays are being openly and widely advertised by everybody (studios and retailers) that's a pretty good proposition for $50. I can honestly say everyone is finally competitively priced.. well, except Nintendo who will continue to own the market at $250 for 2 years now without a single price drop.akachan ningen said:
flipping_heck
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I really want a US 360, was hoping for a price cut for the Arcade version...