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[Gantz]

Those 20GB HDs have to be seeing a price drop too, due to sheer supply and demand. Getting an Arcade would be incredibly stupid right now.

Funny you mention that. I saw 4 ghetto fabulous thugs on the subway yesterday with 4 tard packs from gamestop. No joke. I think Microsoft knows what they're doing :lol

 

[llTll]

i guess thats a good time to buy 20Gig then.


i wonder if they will talk about slim version of 360 @ E3

 

[dreamer3kx]

Will the 60 gigers be the ones with the new chip that everyone is talking about? If so I might as well wait.

 

[FrankT]

Funny you mention that. I saw 4 ghetto fabulous thugs on the subway yesterday with 4 tard packs from gamestop. No joke. I think Microsoft knows what they're doing :lol

:lol Awesome

Elite at $399 on amazon? Hmm, yea I would go with that over 20gb, but it's probably a short timed deal.

 

[itsgreen]

Will the 60 gigers be the ones with the new chip that everyone is talking about? If so I might as well wait.

I would bet not...

 

[TheHeretic]

Basically Apple's business model ruined everything.

This gen (hardware wise) sucks monkey ass, and I doubt next gen would be better.

Referring to keeping the price constant but increasing functionality per revision?

 

[FFChris]

They'd better phase out the 20GB SKU, it's completely pointless now.

Geez MS, you really are a bunch of greedy bastards.

 

[Walshicus]

They'd better phase out the 20GB SKU, it's completely pointless now.

Geez MS, you really are a bunch of greedy bastards.

"In addition, Microsoft today dropped the price of its 20GB Xbox 360 console in the U.S. and Canada to just $299 (U.S.) (ERP) while supplies last"

It was even bolded.

 

[FFChris]

"In addition, Microsoft today dropped the price of its 20GB Xbox 360 console in the U.S. and Canada to just $299 (U.S.) (ERP) while supplies last"

It was even bolded.

Thanks, I do need a little help sometimes. :lol

 

[Mamesj]

Geez MS, you really are a bunch of greedy bastards.

this is capitalism, dude.

 

[Deleted member 284]

Isn't the price of the 60GB HDD $99? If so, thats why they are not lowering the price of the core. Cause then smart people would pay the same price for a core + HDD as the 60GB model.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

I think people would be ok with MS's 5 differnt flavors of 360's if they sold the "detachable" HDD's at normal prices. Give us: $20 20gb, $60-70 60gb and $100 - 130 120gb. The current pricing doesn't make sense with how they originally positioned this sale to us. They originally said that everything was totally upgradable and people wouldn't be adversely impacted by buying their tard packs.

 

[FFChris]

this is capitalism, dude.

Yup. They still have wireless left for 'upgrading' as well. No doubt they'll keep their prices high as long as Sonys PS3 is still higher.

I already have a 360, I'm just pissed off that others are missing out because MS are being so stingy. Heck, if MS actually did a meaningful ($100) pricedrop once in a while they'd have second place in this generation wrapped up.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

I know. All this shit does is confuse customers and at the end of the day no one even knows the price dropped look at the small rise in PS3 sales this time last year when they did the same shit with the 60gb.

 

[Pezking]

Still no Wi-Fi included?

Well, fuck you.

Getting a Jasper-Arcade in November along with Gears 2 then.

 

[ArtG]

Why? Why would they do this?

 

[Mau ®]

I think they're missing some big opportunities with the Arcade at that price. Why not go head to head with the Wii's price? Or even make it slightly cheaper ($20 less).

I think the proper price cut will come on holidays. This move reeks of Sony at E3 2007 where they cut the price of the 60GB and introduced the 80GB at the older price. Then on the holidays they did a real price cut with the 80GB (to clear the channel) and introduced the 40GB.

 

[Tormentoso]

So there is no price drop per say and is just a replacement...


That Arcade pack should be close to $200 by now i wonder what MS is thinking.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Here in NA, a 40GB PS3 at $399.99 with built-in wireless and built-in Blu-ray looks a hell of a lot better this week for NCAA Football and Madden down the road. MS is asking people to pay more for less hardware that has a less than reliable durabilty record.

 

[FrankT]

Here in NA, a 40GB PS3 at $399.99 with built-in wireless and built-in Blu-ray looks a hell of a lot better this week for NCAA Football and Madden down the road. MS is asking people to pay more for less hardware that has a less than reliable durabilty record.

Well if that is the case, by your logic, then I would assume the consumer will agree with this sentiment for July NPD then.

 

[HocusPocus]

Here in NA, a 40GB PS3 at $399.99 with built-in wireless and built-in Blu-ray looks a hell of a lot better this week for NCAA Football and Madden down the road. MS is asking people to pay more for less hardware that has a less than reliable durabilty record.

You really hate Microsoft now don't you now ahah.

It's obvious Microsoft no longer cares about finishing at any position. They just want to make money on the business. Sony will overtake them for 2nd, and they could give a flip. That's what this news tells me anyway.

 

[le.phat]

Well if that is the case, by your logic, then I would assume the consumer will agree with this sentiment for July NPD then.

PS3 is going to outsell 360 by a conciderate amount in july, but that's probably because of MGS4.

 

[TaKeRx]

Well if that is the case, by your logic, then I would assume the consumer will agree with this sentiment for July NPD then.

lol :lol

 

[FrankT]

PS3 is going to outsell 360 by a conciderate amount in july, but that's probably because of MGS4.

Whatever bump MGS4 has had that time has come and gone. Japan (HD and SW) being clear trend of that not to mention UK (at least software although ChartTrack said there was only a 7% bump for first week HW as well) sales as well.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

You really hate Microsoft now don't you now ahah.

It's obvious Microsoft no longer cares about finishing at any position. They just want to make money on the business. Sony will overtake them for 2nd, and they could give a flip. That's what this news tells me anyway.

I would say disappointed and frustrated with more than hate. They have done a lot of great things with the X360.

 

[NR1]

I know. All this shit does is confuse customers and at the end of the day no one even knows the price dropped look at the small rise in PS3 sales this time last year when they did the same shit with the 60gb.

I completely agree. Just look at this. Let me know if any of the information is incorrect...

US 11/22/05
Pro $399.99
Core $299.99
Arcade n/a
Elite n/a
New 60GB(?) n/a

US 04/29/07
Pro ""
Core ""
Arcade n/a
Elite $479.99
New 60GB(?) n/a

US 10/12/07
Pro ""
Core n/a
Arcade $279.99
Elite ""
New 60GB(?) n/a

US 07/13/08
Pro $299.99
Core n/a
Arcade ""
Elite $449.99
New 60GB(?) $349.99


In nearly 3 years, Microsoft has released no less than 5 retail configurations at several price points with a few price drops, but yet the price of the system is no cheeper since launch! Sure you have some added value here and there, but this is just headache inducing.

Nintendo got it right... one retail configuration. Period.

Edit: Better price chart.

 

[rollingstart]

Good for the price drop, but shut the arcade/core pack down already, Microsoft.

 

[Icarus]

Arcade should have been $249 or less. I'm assuming this is the only price drop of the year.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Upscaling DVD Player: With an HDMI cable (sold separately), watch your favorite DVDs in near high-definition using the upscaling capabilities of Xbox 360.

That is a change for the worse.

 

[JudgeN]

I know. All this shit does is confuse customers and at the end of the day no one even knows the price dropped look at the small rise in PS3 sales this time last year when they did the same shit with the 60gb.

Customer confusion is overrated, personally it gives the customer more choices to make a decision. Last time i checked GAF was all about the mighty choice.

 

[HolyStar]

Whatever bump MGS4 has had that time has come and gone. Japan (HD and SW) being clear trend of that not to mention UK (at least software although ChartTrack said there was only a 7% bump for first week HW as well) sales as well.

Yeah, here is one thing about sales, regardless of how the PS3 does in Japan and Euroland, the 360 will ALWAYS be ahead of the PS3 in the U.S.

 

[Weisheit]

I think they're missing some big opportunities with the Arcade at that price. Why not go head to head with the Wii's price? Or even make it slightly cheaper ($20 less).

The Arcade is only $20 more right now (it's even cheaper in many counties), so no they're not missing some big opportunities. The 360 simply can't compete with the Wii in its current state, and it has nothing to do with price....you really think its that daunting $20 difference thats scaring people away?

 

[Sean]

That is a change for the worse.

AFAIK, an HDMI cable was never included in the Pro/Arcade, only the Elite.

 

[biggkidd32]

What's with MS and these fake price drops? The arcade should be at least 250.

 

[open_mouth_]

by Thanksgiving:

Core-$249
Pro $60GB-$299
Pro 20GB-Discontinued

PS3 down to $349?

 

[Tartarus]

What price cut?

 

[FrankT]

by Thanksgiving:

Core-$249
Pro $60GB-$299
Pro 20GB-Discontinued

PS3 down to $349?

Sounds about right. I think this sets up for at least one price cut before Black Friday.

 

[Mrbob]

Haha I knew this would happen. Era of the fake price drops.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony kept their prices this year. We need to see June NPD to gauge how well the MGS4 PS3 sold. Sony may just rotate high profile games in the 80GB bundle (as it costs a a little over a dollar to press a blu ray disc and viola 59.99 value) to keep hardware sales going all year.

 

[Pimpwerx]

How have stores been stocking SKUs? I ask b/c this number of SKUs have to split shelf-space, and there's not a great deal left now with the Wii taking over. PEACE.

 

[bran]

What a joke, 60GB?
Who gives a rat's ass about drive capacity again? Where is my packed-in wireless+blu-ray?

 

[MrPing1000]

:lol microsoft and sony really have been gouging big time this gen.

 

[fse]

I completely agree. Just look at this. Let me know if any of the information is incorrect...

US 11/22/05
Pro $399.99
Core $299.99
Arcade n/a
Elite n/a
New 60GB(?) n/a

US 04/29/07
Pro ""
Core ""
Arcade n/a
Elite $479.99
New 60GB(?) n/a

US 10/12/07
Pro ""
Core n/a
Arcade $279.99
Elite ""
New 60GB(?) n/a

US 07/13/08
Pro $299.99
Core n/a
Arcade ""
Elite $449.99
New 60GB(?) $349.99


In nearly 3 years, Microsoft has released no less than 5 retail configurations at several price points with a few price drops, but yet the price of the system is no cheeper since launch! Sure you have some added value here and there, but this is just headache inducing.

Nintendo got it right... one retail configuration. Period.

Edit: Better price chart.

PS3:
20GB
60GB
40GB
80GB motorstorm
40GB MGS4

Wii:
$249 1 SKU

 

[Blueblur1]

This is ridiculous. I feel bad for people out there that can only afford one new console and 'jump in' before a real price cut hits.

 

[LCfiner]

There better be a real price cut on all SKUs before thanksgiving. 50 bucks off in nearly 3 years? That's pretty shameful, actually.

The only other piece of tech that I've seen stay at the same price over the 3 years is the HD PVR from my cable company ($600). And, surprise, surprise, HD PVRs aren't selling too hot.

Remember kids: With MS, it's all about choice. Bewildering, paralyzing choice.

 

[itsgreen]

Again, the price will drop this holiday, I think, when the new motherboard arrives...

And yes the price hasn't dropped significantly, but you are getting more value for your money...

 

[Flavius]

What's the bloody point of the Arcade skew now?

Quote of the thread.

The hdd-less launch console is definitely the duke controller of this generation.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

And yes the price hasn't dropped significantly, but you are getting more value for your money...

Yeah, the ipod route.

It ruined everything I tell you.

 

[123rl]

The silly impulse-buyer part of my brain wants me to import a US Arcade pack - at this price I'd be able to get a US Arcade pack delivered to my house for about £160...it'll be a cheap and easy way for me to get around the cocksuckers at EA delaying Rock Band 2

 

[WORLDWIDEWII]

like i said before,

"more like a clearance than a price drop."

 

[RPGCrazied]

Ill be getting one for xmas now, unless nintendo wows me at E3.. which I doubt.