Pollux
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Agree with this 100%. On phone so I can't really add to it.
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Priest sells DS, forgets there's child porn on it
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Agree with this 100%. On phone so I can't really add to it.
Ignis Fatuus
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Then all I can say is that it's nothing personal, but that institution is vile and you shouldn't be surprised that its members will get flak for it.
You have clearly not seen how we treat Islamism on GAF. Orthodox Judaism is no better, but there are so few of them that they don't make the headlines as often.
No, it just makes you new to the internet. Time to grow a thicker skin, because everything about everyone is mocked by someone.
PandaJones
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Souldriver
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I think the correlation between pedophiles and the catholic church is twofold.
On the one hand Priesthood probably is compelling to guys who are tormented by their sexuality, because it is considered deviant by society. It's probably appealing to just outright deny your sexuality as a whole then, and chose for a profession that doesn't allow for sexuality in the first place. Kinda in the same way that extreme anti-gay bullies often have homosexual tendencies themselves, but completely deny that part of their identity, and actively fight against it.
On the other hand Priesthood also creates enormous cravings for expression of sexuality, since you're not allowed to. I think a lot of priests get so frustrated and fucked up by it, that they try to find the "easiest" way to have sexual activities while being able to keep it under the radar. And then easy victims like children come into play I guess. Priests come in contact with young children quite often, and also in a private situation without any other adult around. Combine that with the idea that what your priest says/demands is law, and that a priest is holier than thou, which makes it difficult for kids to confess their abuse and make a serious case for it.
So it's a combination of sexually tormented and twisted people + the save haven that the catholic church offers them.
Disclaimer: that is my gut feeling on the issue, not my informed opinion on it.
On the one hand Priesthood probably is compelling to guys who are tormented by their sexuality, because it is considered deviant by society. It's probably appealing to just outright deny your sexuality as a whole then, and chose for a profession that doesn't allow for sexuality in the first place. Kinda in the same way that extreme anti-gay bullies often have homosexual tendencies themselves, but completely deny that part of their identity, and actively fight against it.
On the other hand Priesthood also creates enormous cravings for expression of sexuality, since you're not allowed to. I think a lot of priests get so frustrated and fucked up by it, that they try to find the "easiest" way to have sexual activities while being able to keep it under the radar. And then easy victims like children come into play I guess. Priests come in contact with young children quite often, and also in a private situation without any other adult around. Combine that with the idea that what your priest says/demands is law, and that a priest is holier than thou, which makes it difficult for kids to confess their abuse and make a serious case for it.
So it's a combination of sexually tormented and twisted people + the save haven that the catholic church offers them.
Disclaimer: that is my gut feeling on the issue, not my informed opinion on it.
speculawyer
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This story is so creepy. Just starting with the fact that a Priest owns a DS. That just doesn't fit the priest stereotype . . . unless he is using the DS as a bait to lure kids. I doubt that happened but it just seems so creeepy.
snoopeasystreet
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I bet a 3DS would blow his mind.
If he was a catholic priest? Nope, his fault for joining an organization that protects and enables child molesters.
If the catholic church was 10% as aggressive in stopping/exposing/punishing child molesters as they are fighting in any other social issue they would be a much more respectable organization.
It's not all that different than the police. As long as horrible offenses by police lead to slaps on the wrist/protection along with the "blue wall of silence" they are not to be trusted at face value. If this changed long term? Then the trust would be earned.
Risible
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To be honest, I tend to stay out of religious threads because nothing good ever comes of them. From what little I've seen outside of directly-religious threads it seemed that it was fairly respectful, perhaps I'm wrong.
Thanks for proving my point. What a knee-jerk and pig-headed statement. And have some respect for the guy's father, for fucks sake. How about we bash your dad endlessly without knowing anything about him. Christ on a crutch.
Does he own a DS?
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
As an example, there was someone who suggested that Sharia Law might be a good thing that could stabilize the Middle East. He was ripped apart and cross examined relentlessly about what this would mean for homosexuals, and he ended up being banned because he would not answer. We don't play favorites when it comes to institutional religious abuse.
Ultimadrago
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This was a good guess.
On the other hand, this is disgusting and who puts porn on a DS?!
FrontalMonk
Banned
well, to be fair, it was a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy.
Don't like being lumped in with child molesters and those that protect and enable them?
Don't join, or leave if the horrific protection/enabling of the molesters continues. It's not that complicated. A close friend of mine (teammate on my HS football team+roommate for about a year) was literally a Catholic priest. When he brought up his suspicions about another member acting inappropriately with children they treated him like the enemy. He left the Church and now he teaches a religious studies course and hold non denominational services at a college near me.
If you stay as a member of an organization and do nothing to change the horrible things they do? You might as well be encouraging it.
I'm not going to join the KKK and then complain when people assume I'm a violent racist instead of a run of the mill mean but nonviolent racist.
I'm not going to join Gaf and then complain when someone assumes I play video games.
Rubbish King
The gift that keeps on giving
Nice.
Not really. 'Religion' isn't being bashed here. One specific organisation with a long history of abuse and abuse cover-ups is being bashed. That organisation happens to be religious.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
And it's not like anyone's bashing their beliefs. People are bashing the ridiculously high number of child abuse cases linked to catholic priests, and how the Church itself has tried to cover them up (even though it wasn't the case here)
And really, if people can't bash that...
Bingo. Plenty of religious groups in my area do tons of needed and helpful charity work. Sure I don't agree with their beliefs but that doesn't mean I'd lump them in with the Catholic Church.
Hell I'm agnostic and I spent four days one summer with a Baptist group building with habitat for humanity because it was a fun way to give back and I had just gotten laid off so the timing was perfect.
Souldriver
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It's not that difficult really. In cases like this we condemn highly criminal (and not to mention hypocritical) activities, and in many other religious discussions we basically condemn intolerance and hypocrisy, if they're present.
All of that is justified.
Mr. B Natural
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I guess child porn is kinda like the tv remote.
Count Dookkake
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Any time a religious person complains about the sinful nature of the world, I tell them it's not so bad. Pervy priests usually get punished these days, if we catch them.
i thought that the cops could still go through a damaged harddrive. If you're accessing kiddie pron on a ds (the irony), you've got to be pretty desperate to get your fix. Prolly couldn't go a day without it
. He had a problem.
i thought that the cops could still go through a damaged harddrive. If you're accessing kiddie pron on a ds (the irony), you've got to be pretty desperate to get your fix. Prolly couldn't go a day without it
He had a problem.
If you open up a hard drive and toss the contents into a healthy fire, I have reasonable doubt anyone could access that info anymore.
Of course, if you just toss the computer in a fire, it might not get the hard drive well enough.
Ignis Fatuus
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Zoramon089
Banned
Can someone explain why it's always child porn? Why not normal porn? If it was normal porn, it'd be OMG, a priest with porn?! But then it'd basically end at that
PetriP-TNT
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I heard he bought the thing because he read from the interweb that it's a kiddie console.
Man, /b/ is so full of evil assholes, hahaha.
Escape Goat
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Please give this man a tag.
Hari Seldon
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I think this is going to keep continuing until they let the priests get married again.
slaughterking
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Friend codes justified.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I hate to be that guy, but if it wasn't a 3DS then it must of been a DSi.
bonesmccoy
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Does the Church actually see more instances of abuse than other groups? Are priests and religious members more likely to commit a sex abuse crime than other occupations?
From what I've read (here's a recent article from the Daily Beast on this) is that rates of abuse are either on par with other groups/occupations, or in fact lower.
The case in the OP actually is a sign there's been a positive change within how the Church as an institution handles these situations. Priest was immediately removed from duty, sent to counselling, and will face the brunt of criminal and canon law. 40 years ago this same guy probably would have been sent to a psychotherapist, branded 'cured' and sent off to some other parish without so much as a blot on his permanent record.
That just kept getting better. I'm crying now.
What's on your dad's DS?
Obviously this is just some sick fuck, but I wouldn't be surprised in the coarse of looking for normal porn, a normal person could happen to have seen someone seventeen and eleven months or something. I remember a documentary about some famous porn star who was secretly underage, and she'd had lots of very popular films.
I wonder about the legality of that type of stuff. Or even more banal stuff, like the front cover of the Blind Faith album, I'm sure pedophiles could get off on that sort of thing, but there are legitimate reasons for having those images in your possession.
I wonder about the legality of that type of stuff. Or even more banal stuff, like the front cover of the Blind Faith album, I'm sure pedophiles could get off on that sort of thing, but there are legitimate reasons for having those images in your possession.
Count Dookkake
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Great pun, more like. Has to be intentional.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Sad man but i feel bad for him. He needs help but he is definitely not going to find it in a prison. Psychologic therapy would better help him.
#1 defender
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I thought that much was obvious.
Pollux
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Are you implying that the Catholic Church doesn't do any charity work or anything good for a community?
I think that the bashing comes from the way that those situations were handled on every level. I don't really get why someone wouldn't bash the Catholic church's handling of this.
SnakeswithLasers
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'oh snap'
Because if it was normal porn they wouldn't be reporting it.
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