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Project CARS | OT | Made by 80.000 slightly mad developers
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Maastricht
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The main problem turns out for me that on PC:
1. the tire screech sounds are way too soft, to the point of being completely inaudible most of the times, so you can't hear when your losing grip sideways or locking any wheels when braking.
2. the default force feedback settings *per car* are off. They default to 26, which is far too little. Usually they need to be in the high 60s at least for you to start to feel your car hit the curbs. Even then though, contact with curbs is underreported at least on my DF Pro wheel.
I also tried driving with 3 screen support, and this is a real treat. It doesn't perfectly support it yet (the perspective seems a little off, making the center of the screen a bit too small, so waiting for a 3-screen setting as Assetto Corsa has), but otherwise it looks wonderful. Here the field of view setting for Cockpit and/or Helmet cams need to be at least 130 though before you can actually see enough of the car (i.e. including the speedometer, rpm, etc.).
So it needs slighly more work then, but otherwise, you can tell that the game has good physics underneath. I'm comparing, say, the Clio Cup car with my own driving in a Swith Rent4Ring car on the Nurburgring, and the behavior is very similar, and the G-forces are also very well simulated.
I also would recommend everyone to start with the Clio rather than the karts. They are surprisingly hard to drive (they chose difficult tracks, and don't really give you an opportunity to get to learn them in the career).
1. the tire screech sounds are way too soft, to the point of being completely inaudible most of the times, so you can't hear when your losing grip sideways or locking any wheels when braking.
2. the default force feedback settings *per car* are off. They default to 26, which is far too little. Usually they need to be in the high 60s at least for you to start to feel your car hit the curbs. Even then though, contact with curbs is underreported at least on my DF Pro wheel.
I also tried driving with 3 screen support, and this is a real treat. It doesn't perfectly support it yet (the perspective seems a little off, making the center of the screen a bit too small, so waiting for a 3-screen setting as Assetto Corsa has), but otherwise it looks wonderful. Here the field of view setting for Cockpit and/or Helmet cams need to be at least 130 though before you can actually see enough of the car (i.e. including the speedometer, rpm, etc.).
So it needs slighly more work then, but otherwise, you can tell that the game has good physics underneath. I'm comparing, say, the Clio Cup car with my own driving in a Swith Rent4Ring car on the Nurburgring, and the behavior is very similar, and the G-forces are also very well simulated.
I also would recommend everyone to start with the Clio rather than the karts. They are surprisingly hard to drive (they chose difficult tracks, and don't really give you an opportunity to get to learn them in the career).
Is the fake Suzaku circuit in pcars suppose be the same as the real one, because they feel nothing alike. It feels like a complete different track and thats sad because thats my favorite track to race online thanks to GT5 Prologue. Or maybe GT5-6 was a bad presentation of the track.
Haha, yeah I'm trying but surely you should be allowed a small window of error when it comes to going off track. It's literally penalizing me for going off track by less than a tyres width.
StueyRowls
Member
Started in Formula Rookie for the career and really enjoying it. Fun little cars to master. Love the way the race weekends are set up as well, especially as you can set the race distance etc...
Just had a few annoyances with some of the control settings for my Fanatec wheel (PS4). It really recognises the GT3 in the settings menu, but it only shows half the FF settings. It also doesn't show the per vehicle FF settings in the race menu. All the key bindings are also set up for a controller and it resets every time I reset the game. The deadzone is huge on the wheel, even after messing with a bunch of the settings on the wheel itself. Hopefully a future patch can sort these issues.
Even with those wheel issues I'm really enjoying the game, it's about time we got a more motorsports focused racing sim on console.
Just had a few annoyances with some of the control settings for my Fanatec wheel (PS4). It really recognises the GT3 in the settings menu, but it only shows half the FF settings. It also doesn't show the per vehicle FF settings in the race menu. All the key bindings are also set up for a controller and it resets every time I reset the game. The deadzone is huge on the wheel, even after messing with a bunch of the settings on the wheel itself. Hopefully a future patch can sort these issues.
Even with those wheel issues I'm really enjoying the game, it's about time we got a more motorsports focused racing sim on console.
-Amon-
Member
These are good settings.
Now I can push for 5 laps in a lotus 72 at Watkins glen short, with no assist, without killing myself.
Good job, thanks.
There are 2 corners missing, so no way is it trying to be authentic.
I have to say I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't try Assetto Corsa with pad or wheel as PCars is a big let down in comparison. It seems like people are flocking to it for graphics then feeling something better than GT/Forza but in reality you are missing out big time.
Yes AC career is not fleshed out and it doesn't hold your hand with a narrator etc, but it really shines when you get on track. The graphics feel more natural rather than over processed in PCars. The road doesn't feel like a perfect layer of Tarmac with small nuances brought through the wheel. The cars react realistically over kerbs and don't fly in the air, the FFB has much better progression and gives greater sense of grip. I think I could go on, I wanted Pcars to be my Forza fix for PC but it just isn't there.
The number of UI bugs alone are a turn off for a game with this budget and retail cost. The FFB settings are endless with no descriptions, almost like debug settings.
The good thing is that I was able to find an AC lobby online without the clowns, maybe most have migrated to PCars temporarily (no offence, there are idiots on all sims), and was able to run an awesome race with close fights throughout. There are inherent problems with AC too, but atleast the core experience is extremely solid. PCars seems to try to do a lot but really falls short at each stop except graphics.
Basic things missing like track maps at the selection screen, can't tell what assists are on when in race, can't see driver pings etc... There is no way to set track temperature or grip, no way to get live time for real time weather, the headlights seem to do nothing to illuminate the road, just its surroundings, the non laser scanned tracks have much to be desired when compared to AC, even Forza.
I think I could go on but I don't want to shit on peoples parade, I have nothing against PCars, but I would hope people do try other sims atleast on PC, there is no reason to dismiss them without trying.
exmachina64
Banned
Damn right.
In last night's GAF race, it was assigning fifteen minute cut speed penalties for driving into the pit.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Asking again:
Anyone have accurate FoV settings for a 21:9 aspect ratio? I've settled on 100 for everything save cockpit and helmet cam, which I set @ 110 and 101 (max possible), respectively.
Anyone have accurate FoV settings for a 21:9 aspect ratio? I've settled on 100 for everything save cockpit and helmet cam, which I set @ 110 and 101 (max possible), respectively.
LoveCake
Member
Thanks for the help, but nothing works, i have tried it on different browsers as well, i have no choice but to email them.
I have had contact on another forum where others have the same issue.
This has already put a downer on the game for me
TylerDurden4321
Member
I really like the soft FFB of Project CARS. It's something very different from other titles, but it goes for authentic feeling of a real wold cars steering wheel feel rather than trying to compensate for missing sensory impressions.
Maybe you could do a time-trial comparison of the same car on the same track in AC and PCARS for a track that you think seems off in PCARS (but has no corners missing) to underpin your feeling/opinion.
Liquidsnake
Banned
For the love of god, thank you.
Nyteshade517
Member
Any actual way to select a livery and race with it? I go to the garage and choose one but it never lets me use it and always goes back to random.
Got similar issues with my GT2 on PS4. Check back a few pages for my posts.
When you select liveries with the wheel dpad does it skip every other one?
Methos#1975
Member
For me, kart racing with cockpit view and fov pulled out wide is sooooooo good. The sense of speed is great.
I got an emailed pre order code from Amazon. I just followed these instructions:
Redemption Instructions:
- Visit link "http://www.dlc-projectcars.com/"
- Enter your code, select your country, and enter your email address
- Click 'Validate' and you will receive the DLC code
- Enter your DLC code on Xbox Live/PlayStation Network/Steam
I copied and pasted the code on my email, dashes and all.
I got an email almost immediately with a redeemable code for PSN and it worked fine.
Betta Lines
Member
Aspect ratio is only one factor in determining FOV - you also need to tell us the size of the display and the distance it is from your eyes.
soundscream
Member
When Fanatec announced that the wheels would work they said it would only work in pc mode. It's either a problem with the drivers they created or how SMS implemented them into the game.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
50" Toshiba, but its a 1080p screen so I run 1920x810 to get the 21:9 aspect ratio. I would say I sit about 6 feet away on the couch.
how u do dis? i searched and searched and could not find a way to set a resolution my gtx 970 didnt detect (48" Samsung 1080p).
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Nvidia control panel has a custom resolution option!
Wish you could turn these off (yes people I know there are visual options but they don't have an effect at all EDIT: ok so today there DO work.. bugs bugs bugs). They look horrible, like a big pollution fog coming from the sun, its almost comical.
They need to do so much more work on this game. FFB is rubbish (those who say its great, have you never played another sim before?...), the graphics are terrible (anyone seen the Bathurst track? WTF is with the moving grid laid over all the track?), multiplayer has no option to sort games by ping making it totally useless, there are random bugs everywhere and as far as I know SMS have said nothing about finishing the game. Are they just going to leave it like this? After all I am assured that backers were complaining about all these issues years ago and SMS did nothing to resolve them. What will change now?
Its so disappointing because this game obviously has the potential to be brilliant. Not surprised that the reviews are so positive though while the game is broken, after the embarrassment the general press suffered with DC they were always going to be kind to the next high profile racer to come along.
I have just had my PS4 LE version arrive.
It says to get the LE cars i have to go to http://www.dlc-projectcars.com/ it then says enter the code on the slip in the box, location & then email address, but how is this linked to my PS4 - PSN account, it says the same thing for the pre-order content, i don't want to mess anything up you see, anyone done this yet?
When you put in those codes on the web they give you a proper PSN code to redeem on the Playstation. When prompted for an email I just made sure I used the same address that is affiliated with my PSN id.
I was thinking of doing this but I'm genuinely short of time until my exams are over, after which I'll likley come back to this.
m_shortpants
Member
Kind of depends on your PC specs.
PC obvious choice until they fix the PS4 motion blur problem.
GHG
Gold Member
Dude, you can't ask this without posting your specs 1st and if you are willing/able to upgrade if necessary.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Can someone please tell me how and what the numbers mean for the field of view settings I'm trying to get the camera right in cockpit view
Xbox one
Xbox one
WOW thank you! These settings very good. I am much more confident in the karts.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
Banned
Seriously,is it like this?
https://youtu.be/n1SLQsUVb48
https://youtu.be/n1SLQsUVb48
One thing about CARS -- didn't they have at least two professional drivers do a ton of testing and feedback on the FFB feel?
I don't know how many wheels they tested, or if their experience was limited to certain cars, or whether those drivers were happy with the end result, but I'm almost certain that there was a push for real-world simulation based on what those drivers had experienced.
Do a lot of other simulators also do this with consulting drivers? Obviously I don't drive racecars so I can't really say whether a car feels right, but I do wonder if in some cases, something is simulating correctly, but an average player would say that it feels wrong.
I don't know how many wheels they tested, or if their experience was limited to certain cars, or whether those drivers were happy with the end result, but I'm almost certain that there was a push for real-world simulation based on what those drivers had experienced.
Do a lot of other simulators also do this with consulting drivers? Obviously I don't drive racecars so I can't really say whether a car feels right, but I do wonder if in some cases, something is simulating correctly, but an average player would say that it feels wrong.
Controller setting 2 is much more to my liking. I was almost disappointed yesterday, but I'm actually enjoying the hell out of the game now. Really just doing a lot of practice runs with most assists off, except ABS, and full damage on. My graphical settings are mostly on medium, and I'm using a 290. Still waiting for that AMD driver for a performance boost.
Yes they used a few drivers who gave feedback, but I don't know what they did to implement that feedback. It's accepted that the road cars are awful and weren't finished in time for release so if you're having trouble with the cars it maybe down to that. You may just, unfortunately, need to do the sim racing thing of sitting there for hours trying to sort out the FFB to get things in order. Both PCars & RRE are guilty of this with so many settings/effects which aren't explained very clearly. Check RacingDepartment and other sim racing forums to see if people have done the leg work for you because out the box the game handles like shit.
To answer your other question: Yeah lots of drivers promote other games- Rubens promotes GSCE, DTM drivers for RRE, AC had Ferrari test drivers I think? Take it with a pinch of salt to be honest.
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Dirt Rally has an amazing sound design. Some of the best work in racing audio to date.
Dave Sullivan and co. must be commended for their outstanding work thus far.
But to call CARS sound design amateurish?
Wow.
Greg Hill and Steve Baysted are among the top guys imo when it comes to audio in racing games.
Anyway, for those interested, there's a good article/Q&A featuring Greg Hill, Steve Baysted and Nick Wiswell on the design of audio in racing games
http://designingsound.org/2014/08/vehicle-engine-design-project-cars-forza-motorsport-5-and-rev/
StueyRowls
Member
Haven't tried yet, I'll check tonight and report back.
Really hope they can address the Fanatec issues as the rest of the game is fantastic.
Cheers.
Ditto.