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PS2 Game spotted in Live From PlayStation playing on PS4. Might be fake, not sure.
- Thread starter Tal Shiar Agent
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I love the games we receive each month.
Dwight Schrute
Member
Wait wait wait... What's wish all this talk of DISC BASED emulation ?
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
They use too on PS3 in the early days perhaps they'll repeat that now if PS4 is getting BC support.
Lol no thank you.
TerryWogan
Member
UK Playstation Twitter account just posted a gif of Ridge Racer interspersed with images of the 20th anniversary PS4.
They're at EGX. You can play Ridge Racer to win a 20th anni PS4.
Probably just a coincidence really.
https://twitter.com/playstationuk/status/646758650866999296
They're at EGX. You can play Ridge Racer to win a 20th anni PS4.
Probably just a coincidence really.
https://twitter.com/playstationuk/status/646758650866999296
Phase out PS3 offerings and supplant it with PSNow credit, bolster PS4 selections, toss in a classic PS1/2 game or two a month, and PS+ would be perfect.
Assuming PS1/2 on PS4 actually happens of course.
Yeah, as soon as news was out that PS4 doesnt do any BC, native emulation for PS1 and PS2 was leading the wish lists of the fans everywhere.
I really really hope we are getting that. It would be mindblowing.
Psnow is not a BC soulution. This hs been said many times. Its completely separate.
Sectorseven
Member
I wouldn't mind them in addition to the current offerings each month, but if it were old games and nothing else people might feel like they're getting ripped off.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Well unless they have some old hardware there or it's a PSN version on PS3 it could be something.
zswordsman
Member
Hopefully ps1/2 support arrives. I need to beat those smt games I have on ps3.
Living Proof
Member
I've seen speculation that users can insert discs of supported games to download the digital version, but that's about it.
I'd be enthralled if we could play any game via disc and I imagine software emulation would accomplish this, though I don't have much faith in that being plausible.
YianGaruga
Banned
I've wanted this feature for so long and it seems so close now but I'm still not sure if I should trust those rumors and get hyped for it..
brickarts295
Member
Could this be the reason why Sony didn't bother adding GOW 1 and 2 hd with GOW 3 Remaster?
They would be publishers permission to do so just like Microsoft does with its BC.
I don't think that disc based compatibility is happening. It will be like on PS3. Digital catalogue and classics you have already bought on the store will be playable on PS4 as well.
No permission required for simply adding disc-based emulation.
Family Fry
Member
Andrefpvs
Member
Every PS3 is compatible with PS1 discs, and they run on an emulator, so it's not like there isn't a precedent.
wait, they still have 20th anniversary editions of PS4 left? Thought they sold it all >_>
outunderthestars
Banned
Seems like a good announce!entry for the PS Experience thing this winter.
Quadraphonic
Member
One of the biggest pitfalls of the PS4 version of Singstar was the terrible fucking backwards compatibility.
It couldn't read PS3 or PS2 discs.
Singstar got its last update back in March. They haven't updated a single fucking bit of since then, and it's broken as fuck. Their twitter account got active a bit again in the last week.
Without being able to read PS2/PS3 discs, Singstar on PS4 was essentially a worthless application, because their DLC was only partially ported over. Maybe 1/4th of my songs got relicensed.
I wonder if these two events (Singstar update, PS2 games) are linked together...
IE: Adding support for a PS2 emulator on the PS4 enables the discs to load...
It couldn't read PS3 or PS2 discs.
Singstar got its last update back in March. They haven't updated a single fucking bit of since then, and it's broken as fuck. Their twitter account got active a bit again in the last week.
https://twitter.com/SingStarHQ/status/644438763951755264
Without being able to read PS2/PS3 discs, Singstar on PS4 was essentially a worthless application, because their DLC was only partially ported over. Maybe 1/4th of my songs got relicensed.
I wonder if these two events (Singstar update, PS2 games) are linked together...
IE: Adding support for a PS2 emulator on the PS4 enables the discs to load...
Bluekaveli
Member
Fuck a classic. I want my bc.
Not required, but yet what MS are doing. In the unlikely event it plays old discs but it's not a 90%+ compatible emulator, they'd probably do the same. Makes if easier to get them to check for issues to be sold on PSN again as well as enabling the disc.
Agent X
Member
True, and this is why it would be preferable to enable true disc-based emulation, instead of using the disc as a "key" to enable a pre-cooked download.
Gamers would be able to (theoretically) play any PS1/PS2 disc they already own instantly, without being forced to wait for the game to download.
Since no additional game download would be required, this would also alleviate bandwidth use, and there would be less stress on the PSN servers.
Brad Grenz
Member
Nothing about enabling graphical or trophy enhancements actually requires downloading an entire ISO package. The firmware based emulator can simply use a game specific profile based on the disc ID. MS only does it that way because their multiple Virtual Machine OS necessitates it. And it introduces the problem of needed to get new distribution rights from publishers. A small packet of emulator settings and trophy triggers that could be downloaded on demand would have no such roadblocks.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
I really hope it does, because right now the PS4 useless on that front. I've still got the PS3 connected for Singstar/Buzz moments.
They offer DD to monetize BC, and always using it simplifies things(single distribution channel), and also controls compatibility better meaning a better user experience (only a single version of the game to test and support).Brad Grenz said:
That and the fact that X1 doesn't play anything directly from discs, so bypassing DD would still mean installs for disc-users.
There's also the part where licensing discs to accounts removes them from rental/other distribution channels, which appeals to platform holders and publishers alike (not so much the consumers, but I guess 2 years past people aren't so negative about it anymore).
I'm not sure if Sony actually "can" do this with PS2/PS1 though - I don't recall any of the disc formats having unique IDs until PSP at least, so there's literally nothing you can tie to an account that I know of.
GreyOcelot
Member
It wouldn't have to be tied to the account if you require the disc to be present in the drive in order to play
Hades Hotgun
Banned
PSX is on a weekend and occurs after the release of PS2 Star Wars games on PS4.
On the other hand, Sony has a conference the day before PGW, on a Tuesday, which would fit very well with an "available now."
I don't know that the day matters as much as the relative release of those Star Wars games, but it still seems like PGW is the best bet. At least until it doesn't happen there and I start desperately praying for it to be at PSX.
There's always the chance that those Star Wars games are just a voucher for when they become available sometime in the future.
HappehLemons
Member
I really really really want to play PS2 and PS1 games on my PS4. I can't wait for PSX!
Extra Sauce
Member
I would take PS1 games over the vast majority of stuff we've been getting on PS4
clarkision
Member
Which would still require an announcement of some kind.
EvilKatarn
Member
All I want is to remote play Nocturne and DDS on my Vita.
For agrument's sake let's assume disc-based emulation is out and it's strictly what's available via PSN.
I, for one, still remember the debacle with SCEA releasing like five PS1 games that were compatible when Vita first got PS1 BC enabled, and announced they were going to dribble them out onesy and twosey over months. At the same time SCEE and SCEJ released hundreds of games that same day.
Hopefully, someone a bit more competent is in charge of this at SCEA this time around and doesn't pull that kind of BS again.
I, for one, still remember the debacle with SCEA releasing like five PS1 games that were compatible when Vita first got PS1 BC enabled, and announced they were going to dribble them out onesy and twosey over months. At the same time SCEE and SCEJ released hundreds of games that same day.
Hopefully, someone a bit more competent is in charge of this at SCEA this time around and doesn't pull that kind of BS again.
When PS2 games became available for PS3 there was no announcement, they just casually put them in the store update one week.
Not saying that would happen again, but just that a big stage show is not a fundamental requirement.
IAmRandom31
Banned
What games have been junk?
CaptainTiptop
Member
If Sony gave away past-gen games on PS+ people would still be complaining about getting "junk" when they realise most PS1 games (and some PS2 games) have aged badly.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Yeah this. People want Knack and Killzone SF instead of great indie games, smh.
Sources report next months PS plus games will include previous PS2 classics Disney Princess: Enchanted Journey and Dora the Explorer: Dora Saves the Crystal Kingdom
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I'm cancelling until they give me Barbie Horse Adventures.
funkystudent
Member
They use to give PS1 games away on pS+ during the early years of it.
Got all the PS1 Resident Evil games and the Crash games that way I think. Plus Silent Hill 1 and maybe some others I am forgetting about.
People will always complain but stuff like that would be better then the half assed ports of bargain basement Steam games PS+ has been getting a lot of.
Also I have a feeling here they will come up with a reason why PS Classics already purchased on PS3 and so on wont carry over to PS4.
Got all the PS1 Resident Evil games and the Crash games that way I think. Plus Silent Hill 1 and maybe some others I am forgetting about.
People will always complain but stuff like that would be better then the half assed ports of bargain basement Steam games PS+ has been getting a lot of.
Also I have a feeling here they will come up with a reason why PS Classics already purchased on PS3 and so on wont carry over to PS4.
That's a shitty feeling. No way in hell they attempt it.