Yes, but you just know, at some point (probably when ABC come on board) that PlayOn will break for good. They'll encrypt the video or something equally special. Hulu doesn't like PlayOn and it's unlikely they're just going to sit around and not doing anything about it.androvsky said:Yes, they had a rough patch where Hulu was breaking almost every weekend, but it looks like it's been pretty stable for the last month or so. I can't be sure since I never bothered to buy it, but on a side note, they did reset the trial period this week for everyone to promote the new plugins.
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pswii60 said:
I'd like to see them break PlayOn from a purely technical standpoint. Since PlayOn apparently uses Internet Explorer to render Hulu's webpage and flash to decode the video, I'm not entirely sure how Hulu would be made to run on a web browser and not work with PlayOn. PlayOn already handles simple interactive ads apparently, and I think users would object to having to type in a captcha for every video they watch (and even then, there's automated ways around that).
And the funny thing is there's already a PlayOn plugin for ABC's streaming videos, apparently their website is easier to handle than Hulu.
gregor7777
Banned
AwRy108 said:
Hulu DOES NOT work fine. That's the point we're discussing. I'm not sure you know what you're talking about, no offense..
androvsky said:Yes, they had a rough patch where Hulu was breaking almost every weekend, but it looks like it's been pretty stable for the last month or so. I can't be sure since I never bothered to buy it, but on a side note, they did reset the trial period this week for everyone to promote the new plugins.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. The cat and mouse game they're playing is fine, and probably nothing can be done about it, but I'm certainly not going to pay for it.
gregor7777 said:
How are we defining "works fine"?
I used to agree that the PS3 web browser was useless for Hulu, but I tried it a few days ago to catch up on Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and it was surprisingly decent. Still pauses briefly for no good reason sometimes, some frame drops, but it didn't totally lock up the browser after a while like it used to. Quite watchable really, not cable TV quality by any means though. Seems to work better if you go straight to Hulu after starting the browser instead of wandering past there after a bunch of websurfing.
gregor7777
Banned
androvsky said:
Random lockups, massive stuttering in fullscreen, generally poor framerate. It's unusable.
fatigues_gasolini
Member
Dante said:Hulu works fine for me, I just watched the beaver shot from Basic Instinct on the PS3 browser the other day
Fixed
Cruzader said:
No, you could before. You could even delete the installs, I believe. It's how I cleared up some space at the start of a game that was asking for it. Handy.
Dementia said:
Holy crap, this is actually a huge update for me. I get messaged quite a bit, and it was frustrating as hell keeping track of multiple messages from multiple (or sometimes even the same person), and having to dive all the way back in after every response was driving me insane. That's awesome.
gregor7777 said:
Random lockups, yes. Generally poor framerate... well, I have an older PC, so I didn't really notice that until last week when I installed PlayOn for a nephew who has a monster quad-core PC. I was very sad when I saw how smooth Firefly looked on his machine. So I agree there, it's a mess.
As for fullscreen, are you hitting the fullscreen button on Hulu's page? That's pretty much broken, just zoom in by pressing R3 on the controller. It's annoying and requires fiddling around to get just the right zoom level, but it doesn't affect playback performance at all.
Liabe Brave
Member
It does not do this for me. After I updated last night I played some Killzone 2. I plugged in my Logitech headset and was able to use in-game XMB to check my settings. My microphone level was still set at 5 from last use. I can check the Eye tonight when I get home.jaydogg691 said:
How are some people claiming hulu is smooth for them when even the firmware developers sounded grim about getting h.264 flash video to play without dropping frames? I tried over wifi and ethernet. I find it ridiculous that a machine that can play Blu-rays can't play hulu smoothly.Dante said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13352207&postcount=1703
backbreaker65
Banned
vazel said:
Hulu and Fancast run great for me in 480i/p and has been that way for a while, I think when they converted to full screen.
gregor7777
Banned
It's not a connection issue. PlayOn works fine on the PS3 for me when I was testing, and Hulu works fine on my PC.
As noted, the Flash implementation on the PS3 web browser is a mess. In a lot of ways. Going fullscreen on Hulu humbles the PS3 browser. That's fairly basic functionality from an end user's standpoint.
I haven't played with it since February/March, and there was most certainly problems then that required updating the program. But if it's running fine now I may take a look back into it.
EDIT: I see TVersity now has a Hulu implementation. Has anyone tried it? You have to buy the Pro license.
As noted, the Flash implementation on the PS3 web browser is a mess. In a lot of ways. Going fullscreen on Hulu humbles the PS3 browser. That's fairly basic functionality from an end user's standpoint.
Oni Jazar said:
I haven't played with it since February/March, and there was most certainly problems then that required updating the program. But if it's running fine now I may take a look back into it.
EDIT: I see TVersity now has a Hulu implementation. Has anyone tried it? You have to buy the Pro license.
480p hulu is so noticeably choppy my ps3 that i can't imagine anyone having a threshold where they don't notice the choppyness. So if you say hulu plays fine for you then okay I'll believe. I'm not even going to try to figure out why some ps3s would play hulu fine I give up on this hulu shit it's caused me too much anxiety.
Edit: Nah on second thought I can see how some would not notice the choppyness. But whatever I give up on this if you're happy with hulu's performance on ps3 then good for you.
Edit: Nah on second thought I can see how some would not notice the choppyness. But whatever I give up on this if you're happy with hulu's performance on ps3 then good for you.
gregor7777 said:
I haven't tried it, but you don't have to actually buy the license to try it. However, my understanding is you can't browse videos through the XMB; it'll only play what you've added to your Hulu queue. Also, the way it transcodes the video ends up playing the audio through the computer it's running on, so you have to remember to mute it... that, and the system requirements are oddly high.
I think the longer the content you watch on Hulu, the more stuttering and issues you will have. i tried watching "kings" pilot episode(over an hour long) and it never finished streaming since i got an out of memory error. We all know clicking full screan worsen things too. all other sites work fine for me tho. I guess the hulu site needs a a revamp since its too flash heavy which the ps3 cant handle that well or wait for a browser update. i barely go to hulu for that reason.
blindrocket
Member
I wouldn't go that far. They work, but are slow and prone to locking up the system.AwRy108 said:
GalacticAE
Member
I'm hoping for SE/TE stick backward compatibility and for my PSN issues to be resolved.
Hulu is not unusable, I use it there for it is
It is choppy, but watchable. The lockups are not random for me, if you try to pause a show the buffer will fill and lock, at least for me. I don't ever try to pause it anymore, just click back in time and let it repeat itself if you need to go pee.
I canceled my cable, so I take what I can get, which is Netflix and Hulu mostly.
It is choppy, but watchable. The lockups are not random for me, if you try to pause a show the buffer will fill and lock, at least for me. I don't ever try to pause it anymore, just click back in time and let it repeat itself if you need to go pee.
I canceled my cable, so I take what I can get, which is Netflix and Hulu mostly.
Cruzader said:
It depends on your network.
In my home network, the videos are noticeably more choppy and even with some major artifacts occassionally. It actually smoothened out towards the middle. I had to leave for work after that.
In my office network, the 480p videos play fine (better than my SD res home version). It locked up once after my 2nd TV episodes, but I'm on my 4th now.
EDIT: 4th video just ended. Started a 5th one. Each video is about 45 minutes, all full-screen playback.
If there are playback issues on a home network, it could be due to exception handling/retry bugs at the network level (e.g., retries causing memory leaks, race conditions, etc.).
I have added hulu to my bookmarks and will be able to enjoy 480p movies from my office now. Hopefully Sony continues to improve it.
SirFodderton
Member
Liabe Brave said:
I just noticed everything but 3 is grayed out on mine as well.
gregor7777
Banned
Just tried Hulu with TVersity.
Works well once you have it set up with your queue full, or by clicking on a feed and adding it manually for a certain show or whatever.
I seem to remember PlayOn being able to browse content in the XMB, which is sorely missed. Hopefully TVersity adds it.
Quality seems better than PlayOn. I clicked an option in my profile to always default to 480p, so perhaps I was getting the lower res version of the videos before.
It's functional. Hopefully they add features with newer versions. It's pretty barebones now. It still shits on watching Hulu in the PS3 browser, so I'll take it.
Works well once you have it set up with your queue full, or by clicking on a feed and adding it manually for a certain show or whatever.
I seem to remember PlayOn being able to browse content in the XMB, which is sorely missed. Hopefully TVersity adds it.
Quality seems better than PlayOn. I clicked an option in my profile to always default to 480p, so perhaps I was getting the lower res version of the videos before.
It's functional. Hopefully they add features with newer versions. It's pretty barebones now. It still shits on watching Hulu in the PS3 browser, so I'll take it.
I happened across a post on a random internet message board a few weeks back, concerning the locking up of the PS3 browser.
The guy posted that by turning off Javascript in the options, the browser stopped freezing completely.
I was skeptical, but figured it was worth a shot.
I use the browser on a daily basis for surfing the web, and can state matter-of-factly that I have not had one freeze since I made the change.
So you guys might want to try that.
The guy posted that by turning off Javascript in the options, the browser stopped freezing completely.
I was skeptical, but figured it was worth a shot.
I use the browser on a daily basis for surfing the web, and can state matter-of-factly that I have not had one freeze since I made the change.
So you guys might want to try that.
gregor7777
Banned
KillJade said:
Back to the days of full page refreshes for Sony. :lol
Liabe Brave
Member
Well, I did just check. The PS Eye has everything but "3" greyed out (though it will let you set another number, there doesn't seem to be any effect). But my Logitech USB headset and my Jabra Bluetooth earpiece both allow free setting of the mic volume. Since someone else reported the official Bluetooth earpiece was also restricted, maybe it's just with Sony audio products?Liabe Brave said:
blindrocket
Member
This is mildly interesting, to me at least.
Access to my external 1TB USB HDD seems faster, when loading up a movie and pressing square the thumbnails load really fast.
Another thing is that I have this video that in the past has ALWAYS shown as a Corrupted File. Interestingly enough however, is that it would play fine once pressed.
Well now after the update it doesn't show up as corrupted, it is titled just fine! Plays fine too.
Hoping others were fixed, I tried another video that I've had issues with but it hadn't changed. Video but no audio.
Access to my external 1TB USB HDD seems faster, when loading up a movie and pressing square the thumbnails load really fast.
Another thing is that I have this video that in the past has ALWAYS shown as a Corrupted File. Interestingly enough however, is that it would play fine once pressed.
Well now after the update it doesn't show up as corrupted, it is titled just fine! Plays fine too.
Hoping others were fixed, I tried another video that I've had issues with but it hadn't changed. Video but no audio.
The Faceless Master
Member
some PS3's wifi cards really suck. try it wired and i bet it fucking blazes.JodyAnthony said:
RedRedSuit
Member
xBerserker said:
Or at least lock to a hard drive, not an individual PS3. Christ that's annoying if your console dies....
while the keyboard is on press triangle to skip over and type more. I f you are using a 3rd party chat pad try just pressing space bar or something. I dont have one so i cant test it out.patsu said:How ? I use a keyboard. The cursor stops at 30 characters.
Pressing ^ simply brings up the keypad. It does nothing to increase the message length for me
EDIT: Hey efertlis, I still owe you a DiNovo. Haven't forgotten. Just **()*$( swarmed.
patsu said:How ? I use a keyboard. The cursor stops at 30 characters.
Pressing ^ simply brings up the keypad. It does nothing to increase the message length for me
EDIT: Hey efertlis, I still owe you a DiNovo. Haven't forgotten. Just **()*$( swarmed.
Hmmmm - in a room with Bob and Greg - and me and Greg have the firmware and can type 64 characters (I believe) and Bob hasn't updated and is still limited to the 32 characters. Have you updated your firmware yet?
Thanks, even if the DiNovo doesn't work out I appreciate the thought and effort!
Edit - also - if you didn't create the room - maybe whoever did hasn't updated their firmware yet....not sure if that matters. I didn't have to recreate my room to get it to work for us.
CrushDance
Banned
Hey guys, try and create a message
I now have official and final word on whether or not the PS3's browser handled Hulu well enough: It did. How do I know? Hulu now blocks the PS3's browser. Could someone with 2.76 verify that something very odd didn't happen with the user-agent string?
Instead of fixing the problem with ad revenue not being worth enough by getting more people to watch Hulu, they just send people to places where ad revenue is higher. As nice as Hulu is, they do seem to be going to a lot of effort to get me to dislike the service.
Instead of fixing the problem with ad revenue not being worth enough by getting more people to watch Hulu, they just send people to places where ad revenue is higher. As nice as Hulu is, they do seem to be going to a lot of effort to get me to dislike the service.