AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Why does it have no resell value? Surely you can sell the PSN code.
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Why does it have no resell value? Surely you can sell the PSN code.
SoraanTribal
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You're right - I just checked, has pretty much the biggest games of the year as options. I'd probably add AC Unity (despite the problems, hopefully the patches will fix it) and maybe Shadows of Mordor... not sure.
Now you see this is how you do bundles for the holidays: 1 for the mature audience (GTAV+TLOU) and 1 for families (Lego+LBP3). Sony has both major consumer markets covered by offering games that appeal to them. I'd imagine GTAV, especially, is going to drive a lot of sales.
When you look at MS both bundles appeal to the mature market (AC and MCC). There is no family centric bundle. Even if they are cheaper discerning parents are far more likely to buy a bundle with kid friendly games than ones with Assassin in their name. Couple that with the horrible word of mouth those games are getting its not hard to see that bundle underperforming in comparison. MCC bundle is their golden ticket bundle but that too is mired by some seriously negative word of mouth that has sapped a lot of the excitement for it.
In short a new more expensive actually limited bundle on a more desirable console with more desirable games for both major market moving demographics is sure to draw more attention and therefore more purchases come Black Friday. Having a family bundle with LBP3 and a hardcore bundle with GTA is just an incredibly smart move on Sony's part. The only question now is does Sony have the stock available to support the sales.
When you look at MS both bundles appeal to the mature market (AC and MCC). There is no family centric bundle. Even if they are cheaper discerning parents are far more likely to buy a bundle with kid friendly games than ones with Assassin in their name. Couple that with the horrible word of mouth those games are getting its not hard to see that bundle underperforming in comparison. MCC bundle is their golden ticket bundle but that too is mired by some seriously negative word of mouth that has sapped a lot of the excitement for it.
In short a new more expensive actually limited bundle on a more desirable console with more desirable games for both major market moving demographics is sure to draw more attention and therefore more purchases come Black Friday. Having a family bundle with LBP3 and a hardcore bundle with GTA is just an incredibly smart move on Sony's part. The only question now is does Sony have the stock available to support the sales.
Codeblew
Member
The blacks will get crushed on XB1.
I guess people are expecting Sony to react to Microsoft and undercut them or something. They don't have to since they are leading. It's best IMO to keep the console at $399 as long as possible then do a price cut when its absolutely necessary so it has the biggest impact.
lol
Rastafarian42
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Sony Brack Friday Bunduru
LOL
Triggerhappytel
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I really think people are underestimating GTAV. Don't forget that it's one of the biggest selling games ever and they've put an incredible amount of work into the remaster. Get a few ads on TV and YouTube showing the improved visuals and FPS mode an I think it will do insane numbers. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that this remaster will outsell pretty much every other release this November, with the possible exception of COD. I reckon R* will clock up a good 10 million more sales on current-gen and PC. Having that bundled will work wonders for the PS4.
That's a dangerous game if you let the competition catch up with user base.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Making Money: A Dangerous Game
Mass Effect
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But that's not going to happen, even if we're talking US alone.
God, you people act like the PS4 is going to fall off a cliff while people will be fighting over Xbones.
Fair enough. But why can't I buy a $300 PS4 without bundled games that I have to resell? Would certainly make my Bloodborne decision easier.
I mean, I know the answer. I'm just saying, for some people it's not the greatest deal ever.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Microsoft is a ways off catching up in the USA, forget the rest of the world. Why undercut your competition when you have a worldwide lead?
How so? The ps4 is gonna sell out this holiday @ $400. Why drop the price and loose money?
Wait until next year holiday
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Because they don't want to lower the damn price! It's Psych 101. They don't want to advertise "The PS4 now $299" and then have all the idiots of the world expect a $299 PS4 the day after BF.
Also Sony does not pay $60 for the games, so they are giving you the illusion of $120 of value at the cost of $40.
I feel like this stuff is obvious and people are pretending not to get it.
ShadowSoldier89
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well, he wouldnt complain, but hes getting GTAV on PC so he can plan online with me lol. Thanks for the idea though, Ill need to look into it. Whatever im doing though im doing it online
Yah, probably. I won't be paying for the online component anyway, so it doesn't matter when I get to it.
The sentence "I mean, I know why," implies I knew why. They're taking a small loss on potential software sales but avoiding a large loss on hardware sales. It's standard practice for years now.
Again, the point is more that some people don't see it as an amazing deal. I only participated in the discussion as a counterbalance to overly negative reactions towards somewhat reasonable statements as such.
So will the second one. LBP is god.
DirgeExtinction
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Pretty cool. They have a bundle for kids and another for teens/adults.
Maybe if they dont know what the new ones have/offer but if you know about the games and what the remasters offer, the PS4 bundle is the way to go.
Honestly I don't think much of those bundles. You've got a choice of a so-so platform series and 30fps Lego game (these ran at 60 on the PS2...), or a pack with two games which millions of people have already completed.
Bundling COD + PS+ + TLOU would have been a killer pack. Watching some GTAV streams today reminded me of how much I didn't really enjoy that game. It's simply not that good outside of the core story while TLOU at least says "we're Sony, this is what we can do".
Bundling COD + PS+ + TLOU would have been a killer pack. Watching some GTAV streams today reminded me of how much I didn't really enjoy that game. It's simply not that good outside of the core story while TLOU at least says "we're Sony, this is what we can do".
Their are a fair few people who didn't buy GTA V on last gen consoles, me being one of them. I will be buying a copy of GTA V for my PS4 and a copy of TLOU even though i already own it on PS3.
Also, i suspect Rockstar/Sony will be heavily advertising the 1st person view in GTA V, which will give the impression of directors cut release, which will no doubt also help in pushing sales.
Cornbread78
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orthodoxy1095
Banned
I think the DS4 is the best option, especially seeing how LBP and LEGO games work fantastically with multiplayer.
The Power Of Snap
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Harper's Canaya
Clinton514
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What kind of internet connection are you on? No problem with Videotron here.
bananafactory
Banned
Where are you in Canada? In Edmonton I get 25 mbps...50 GB is maybe 4-5 hours
Khaos_Knight
Banned
The GTA 5 PS3 bundle is only $50 cheaper(on amazon) so why not go $50 more and get a much better experience with these games?
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
what? not sure if serious. I am from Toronto and have great download speed and I am not even paying that much.
Mikey Jr.
Member
PSN has been bad for me since 2.0 in terms of speed.
Also, the Canadian bandwidth caps are stupid low.
That should have been 2 separate complaints.
Yup, the caps are stupid, but in my case my isp isn't enforcing them.
Nightengale
Member
Well, that's your opinion.
The fact that it sold gangbustas at launch and continues to sell very well every month post-launch shows that the larger gaming audience don't share your pov.
Coulomb_Barrier
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GTA bundle is going to be killer isn't it.
3rdamention
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Rogue_Ledr
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I don't get why they just didn't lower the price to friggin $349.99.
Surely it wouldn't have cost them more than including two free games.
Surely it wouldn't have cost them more than including two free games.
Because they are selling extremely well already and this is one of Sonys divisions who is actually making money and not losing it.
I dont understand how people cant get this in their heads -_-
They dont need to microsoft needed to because they were behind like half and needed to catch up which they are.
Indeed.
FalsettoVibe
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Hey guys. What happens to the GTA bundle after black Friday? Does it go away? Price increase?