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PS4 Pro sold 65,194 units in Japan in its first 4 days (Famitsu)
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The Abominable Snowman
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The bump in revenue the Pro offers is insane. I'm sure it comes with a healthy profit margin as well. 29,970 yen to 44,970 yen is greater than the difference in the US of $299 to $399
No launch titles? Did you realize that this is a PS4 and not a new system right? Your logic is totally wrong.
FinaruDensetsu
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Good, not great.
The real test will be what kind of numbers it does in the US.
The real test will be what kind of numbers it does in the US.
A note expensive unit in a dwindling console market in Japan? I think it will well and damn near helped the PS4 reach 100k in sales for the week.
Sony clearly knows the slim will be the main driver in unit sales. The Pro is billed as a premium device and something they can gain profit on as well. At some point the Pro will be sold for $300 and don't be shocked if in a year or two it becomes the defectors console.
Also the most important is thing. Whether it's a slim or a pro being sold. It's a sale for the PS4 family
Europe > US.
And_Gignac
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Kind of flopping tbh. Isn't it doing kind of bad in the UK too?
chromatic9
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Numbers seem alright for Japan.
UK might be a bit low but then you have to consider that the UK supports the Xbox consoles as well. On top of that you have incredible deals for the old Xbox One and Xbox One S is also an attractive new proposition and UK is probably around 7 million consoles sold compared to 3.6 million consoles sold in Japan, and that's with half the population.
New consoles usually are in the hundreds of thousands at launch but these mid-gen upgrade consoles are in the tens of thousands.
Kind of supports the general feeling of the likes of Kinda Funny games. Hardcore want full on fanfare for this new console but it just isn't going to happen. There's a huge disconnect in expectations.
UK might be a bit low but then you have to consider that the UK supports the Xbox consoles as well. On top of that you have incredible deals for the old Xbox One and Xbox One S is also an attractive new proposition and UK is probably around 7 million consoles sold compared to 3.6 million consoles sold in Japan, and that's with half the population.
New consoles usually are in the hundreds of thousands at launch but these mid-gen upgrade consoles are in the tens of thousands.
Kind of supports the general feeling of the likes of Kinda Funny games. Hardcore want full on fanfare for this new console but it just isn't going to happen. There's a huge disconnect in expectations.
Nonsense. In japan? Nope.
Numbers are good for a premium model in japan.
Jesus.... lmao
FinaruDensetsu
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Yeah I guess so, but that's comparing a whole continent to a country.
Yeah it's like a lot of people have zero knowledge about the Japanese market.
A country that doesn't even really care about home consoles anymore and then add onto it they don't even really care about high power PCs... Strikes one and two against a high power home console.
Sword Of Doom
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That doesn't seem too bad for Japan
No.
Sectorseven
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These have to be all upgraders, right? I mean, I can't imagine many Japanese gamers were holding out because the current model wasn't powerful enough.
Acquiescence
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The standard model sold the usual amount considering the past few weeks, so the fact that the Pro sold an extra 65k on top of that strikes me as being pretty good actually, at least for an upgrade model in a long-dwindling console market.
XV should a good few more units for those who want their Final Fantasy looking as fine as possible.
XV should a good few more units for those who want their Final Fantasy looking as fine as possible.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
This was an underrated post.
This was pure nonsense but I'm getting used to seeing stuff like it in literally every pro thread.
This was an underrated post.
This was pure nonsense but I'm getting used to seeing stuff like it in literally every pro thread.
Omnistalgic
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That's probably not even spin though man...X1 doesn't sell at all in Japan, I don't get it? It's a mobile country now, dominated mostly by Nintendo, and Sony has a little piece of the pie with PS3/PS4/PSV.
The only thing interesting is how well Switch will sell there and if Sony does another handheld because of it.
Isn't that really good in Japan considering the price & target market? I wouldn't have assumed a number this high over there.
There's some pretty inane leaps of logic here and a real continuation of just complete and utter misunderstanding about what this console is. It's funny because everyone I've talked to who isn't big into gaming understands exactly what it is. It's the 6+ to the 6. Only the dedicated players are having mental meltdowns failing to put together what the Pro is supposed to be.
If you think the Pro is supposed to sell better than the Slim... maybe you should rethink everything you (don't) know about hardware. The Slim should be the leader in all markets going forward so far as PS4 skus go. By a significant margin at that.
There's some pretty inane leaps of logic here and a real continuation of just complete and utter misunderstanding about what this console is. It's funny because everyone I've talked to who isn't big into gaming understands exactly what it is. It's the 6+ to the 6. Only the dedicated players are having mental meltdowns failing to put together what the Pro is supposed to be.
If you think the Pro is supposed to sell better than the Slim... maybe you should rethink everything you (don't) know about hardware. The Slim should be the leader in all markets going forward so far as PS4 skus go. By a significant margin at that.
El-Pistolero
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A world that thinks that the Japanese home consoles market is not a shadow of its former self...
What Japanese home consoles market? Tis a myth by now surely. ;P
mckmas8808
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Yes they do.
Jawbreaker
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Taken in context? Not at all.
This is the FFXV bump. I don't expect it to be to giant a bump, unfortunately even if FFXV is great, and loved more than XIII The numbers likely won't show it here. It will be the lowest selling in the series in recent history.
Dyson Industries
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ftfy
opticalmace
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Seems pretty decent.
How hot was it in Japan?
How hot was it in Japan?
ALLseeingEYE
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They are marketing a new product, a product that has definite advantages and distinction from a standard PS4, and I certainly think it would have made a lot of sense, and made a greater impact, if it was launched alongside a slate of clearly advertised titles, clearly marked titles, that also clearly demonstrated the system's ability.
This type of mentality could have had greater impact in many ways. For example, look at the weak response to the PS4 Pro in reviews. Many of the more casual reviewers were hard pressed to even clearly see the advantages in the software, and my takeaway was generally, that support was all over the place, and overall, not that impressive overall (if most of your games library still doesn't support it, that's a bit of a bummer). Having very strong 1st-party support, right out of the gate, along with the 3rd party titles could have helped those reviews, and word of mouth a lot. It's also too bad Sony didn't mind ways to take advantage of all the extra power on older titles sans patch.
But yeah, it definitely seems like Sony thought differently, and is taking a more casual approach to this. At the end of the day, I'm sure they will sell, especially as the price drops, and more clearly advantageous software launches, but it feels like Sony is dropping the ball with the PS4 Pro in a lot of ways, and that makes me kind of sad. I love the idea of the mid-gen refresh, and I'd like to see it be successful.
I understood that reference.
Rellik
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What? This is good for Japan nowadays.
It's not going to get exclusive games. Games like BF1, TF2, Ratchet, COD etc look better on this thing period. Many people can see it.
Again this system isn't for everyone. That's what many people are failing to understand. You DON'T have to upgrade if you are perfectly fine with your PS4. You're still getting the same experience. Sony knows the Slim is going to be the most bought sku. Hell they are banking on it. cheaper price, bundled game, getting all the deal for BF. The Pro is literally for the person that looks over and says "eh for $100 more my games could look a bit prettier.".
Either way no matter which sku gets sold. It's a PS4 sale regardless. They make money regardless. The Pro over time will drop in price as well. Quite frankly I woulnd't be shocked if you saw Pro Horizon bundle next year AND a RDR Pro bundle next year.
PS4 damn near sold 100k last week just based on the Pro launch. FFXV will be the next big spike imo
You're going to need the receipts for that
Yes some people are failing to understand what the Pro is.
It's not a next gen platform, it is meant to add a premium option to the PS4 family to boost sales.
And it's what it did.
The Slim baseline seems to be 30k weekly in Japan, if the Pro could only add 10k to that it would be a big positive news for PS4.
Everyone who follows the Japanese market understands that these sales given the price and nature of the system were the best case scenario.
It did better there than in the UK!
Valkerionseven
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For those saying its kinda flopping or is not doing so well, even with these numbers it is still sold out in many places here. Amazon, and the usual electronics retail stores have been sold out of their pre-orders since the announcement. Currently the only places I've seen them are re-sellers or smaller stores depending on the area.
Not 100% sold through obviously, but doing pretty well it seems for, like others said a luxury console when a cheaper alternative launched a bit before, and after a luxury ad on for current users dropped at almost a similar price (VR). This thing is quite freaking expensive here as well no matter how dedicated a console gamer you are. Talking almost 50,000 yen.
Not 100% sold through obviously, but doing pretty well it seems for, like others said a luxury console when a cheaper alternative launched a bit before, and after a luxury ad on for current users dropped at almost a similar price (VR). This thing is quite freaking expensive here as well no matter how dedicated a console gamer you are. Talking almost 50,000 yen.
IS PSVR selling well though? I don't know what the penetration rate is but as a PC VR consumer I can say yes, it is extremely demanding on the GPU so expect to see marked improvement on current and especially future PSVR titles
DangerMouse
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Not in Japan tho. The price is probably the main thing they care about since console gaming has declined so much there.
Dark_3nergy
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I wouldn't have released the slim and pro so close together. The body type of the slim looks very close to the pro. Easy to confuse which is which for the average consumer.