Banjo-Kazooie
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Work at Target in Massachusetts, we only had 6 PS4s, and sold the last one at minute 15 since opening. We got 6 XB1s as well and sold 2 so far.
Hmm. Pay $600+ for a used/new PS4 on ebay or $500 for a new X1. It's really a no brainer.
I see what's going on here.I went to Costco over a week ago, they had whole pallet of Xbones on the floor, about 50 units. Went there yesterday, while the display had been reduced to just placards, the employee I asked said they still have at least 15. As the fastest selling console, I figured those units would've been sold in days.
I went to Costco over a week ago, they had whole pallet of Xbones on the floor, about 50 units. Went there yesterday, while the display had been reduced to just placards, the employee I asked said they still have at least 15. As the fastest selling console, I figured those units would've been sold in days.
Sure, if they absolutely must buy something right now, otherwise waiting a few weeks would probably be a better choice.If I didn't have a PS4 right now, I certainly wouldn't settle for an X1, but get that some people don't like waiting and/or need something for Christmas.
My guess is that they are trying to build and maintain a global audience. IMO, Microsoft really needs to push the X1 in the US to stay competitive WW. I think Sony knows it will be close in/they could lose the US, so their focus is a little broader. Get a foothold in new territories and some mind share in smaller places, then grow slowly.
I honestly think this gen will be neck and neck. I feel for those who feel they have a stake in who wins from month to month. This gen will be an emotional roller-coaster for them. Lol.
NPD should be interesting, ms demand vs. Sony supply, I think its obvious ms are out shipping Sony to the US but they could well have unsold stock after Christmas. Depending on post Xmas demand of course.
When people say " neck and neck", I can only think they are talking about NA. In terms of worldwide sales I honestly think it's going top be tremendously one sided in PS4's favour, I'm talking about 3-1 or more. MS has already conceded Asia, much of mainland Europe isn't being contested by MS, while the countries they are in, things don't look that great for them.
Then I look at my country, the UK, for so many years it was assumed the MS had this country locked up, but if you look closer, Sony has been gaining ground with PS3 these last couple of years. Now, with the launch of next-gen, it seems whole swathes of gamers are taking the opportunity to make the switch to Sony. I thought it was very telling Sony shipped and sold 250k PS4's at launch, MS just 150k - now XBO's are now freely available - while PS4 is beginning to look like another Wii situation in terms of mainstream demand.
my best buy had 6 Xbox one boxes
But...
they were all EMPTY boxes [and I did ask about empty boxes]
they did not have any stock on hand
never assume
The best scenario MS could hope for right now is for XBone not to get completely demolished like the original Xbox vs PS2. Winning the generation outright is out of the question by now
Less than a month in, nothing is even close to decided.
Less than a month in, nothing is even close to decided.
Less than a month in, nothing is even close to decided.
Less than a month in, nothing is even close to decided.
Less than a month in, nothing is even close to decided.
You're not wrong but do you seriously think Microsoft has a good chance at outselling Sony worldwide? I'd say it's very unlikely.
Worldwide, it is decided.
The real question isn't why people assume there are consoles in those boxes, but why they assume the boxes even exist in the first place. They could be an optical illusion created by heat shimmer from this ridiculous heat wave, like a mirage.
Thats funny because the debate I've had over the last 5 months was whether I was going to "settle" for a PS4. I guess it depends on what you are looking for, but a new "game machine" with more gpu power just didn't add any thing nothing new to my living room at all. So again I guess it depends on what you are looking for.
It's hard to argue with Sony's strategy from a long term perspective, whereas Microsoft is playing a defensive game.
The majority of growth in the coming decades will come from emerging market economies and not the US. They're trying to make these territories overwhelmingly in Sony's favor. Release the console early, now you have a userbase where people are playing PS4 -- their friends may not have one yet, but they want one and will get one over the years because the PS4 is what all their friends are playing. There's a viral momentum effect that they need to capitalize on.
Neither if them do as you say. They are promotional boxes. As someone else said you can tell PS4 because actual boxes have a handle on the top. You can tell either box because they have the serial number on the box. If there's a serial number there's a real system somewhere there.they were/are real boxes
same as GameStop
they often put boxes out front
there is nothing in them, display only
does NOT mean they have stock
Depends what minute of sales we base our math on.
Sour? Doesn't seem like it. Just making sure to use Major Nelson's math if we're going to compare apples to apples.I see that PR release still has people sour.![]()
You're legitimately the funniest non-ironic poster on this site.I see that PR release still has people sour.![]()
All the UK stores do the same thing.... Empty boxes, but no stockthey were/are real boxes
same as GameStop
they often put boxes out front
there is nothing in them, display only
does NOT mean they have stock
I see that PR release still has people sour.![]()
It seems in Mexico you can get Xbone everywhere, PS4 is out of stock in some major retailers , Sams Club have an average of 5 pieces per store.
Demand is part of it, for sure, as most of the world doesn't care about the "extra" stuff the Xbox offers in terms of TV/Sports stuff as it won't work there. But that's also why they care about the US. You can sell the NFL service in the US. You can't in Spain.
MS doesn't seem to even be interested in winning WW numbers. They are more interested in providing services. I'm not saying this is a bad thing... because if you want those services it's obviously a very good thing. But it's very different than what Sony is doing.
The one negative that this will mean for the XB1 in future years is that buying exclusives gets a hell of alot more expensive when you are trailing worldwide.
Demand is part of it, for sure, as most of the world doesn't care about the "extra" stuff the Xbox offers in terms of TV/Sports stuff as it won't work there. But that's also why they care about the US. You can sell the NFL service in the US. You can't in Spain.
MS doesn't seem to even be interested in winning WW numbers. They are more interested in providing services. I'm not saying this is a bad thing... because if you want those services it's obviously a very good thing. But it's very different than what Sony is doing.
The one negative that this will mean for the XB1 in future years is that buyingg exclusives gets a hell of alot more expensive when you are trailing worldwide.
Why on earth are there no demo stations for the Xbox One? I want to hold that controller.
The PS4 situation reminds me of what it was like for people trying to get a Wii back in 06, and 07, and 08.
Why on earth are there no demo stations for the Xbox One? I want to hold that controller.
Y'know, I was thinking about this the other day. What if PS3 dominates worldwide, but xbox wins or stays even in the US, whats the possibility of MS securing third party exclusives in the NA region only?
I think the fact that the xbone sitting on shelves three weeks after release and less then two from Christmas would be quite discerning to me if I wanted it to succeed.
MS is flooding the US market with consoles, while Sony spread itself too thin, and is having trouble supplying markets.
MS is flooding the US market with consoles, while Sony spread itself too thin, and is having trouble supplying markets.