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It will sell in the first month to a moderately reception and then suffer a slow death. Better getting a better phone, waiting for the new Nintendo, or upgrading your PC. Japan has not been the main target for Sony in years.
But this costs 3X as much and more than double what the base PS5 was here just a few years ago.Japan is still the second biggest country for PS5. I expect Pro to make up between 10% and 20% of PS5 sales next year.
For context, the Pro made up 17.23% of PS4s sold in Japsn by the end of 2020.
It wasn't a huge jump at all. Your talking hyperbole. Also can you remember what a Geforce 9080 or 1080 cost and how much a 4080 costs now? Prices have gone up. So your evidence of how the PS4 Pro cost £399 at launch has no relevance in today's market place. If 4080 alone can more than double the price of an 9080 or 1080 then it's expected a PS5 Pro will also cost more especially if Sony don't want to sell it at a loss.I think they need to build it with an understanding of how potential customers will view the value proposition (hint: they're viewing it very negatively right now) and either put out an expensive product that is actually a premium product or put out a product that's in line with people's pricing expectations. The PS4 Pro was a huge jump from the base model without even increasing the price over the original PS4's MSRP. This sidegrade feels like a slap in the face by comparison. There's nothing "premium" about a downgrade from onboard disc drive to a la carte and upcharging a freaking stand that came by default for an extra $30+. I hope this greed is punished so they don't up the ante with PS6 at $800.
I feel like MS pressured them into it with their 2TB Series X model.
How does a LIMITED EDITION pressure Sony into making the standard edition 2TB?
Not knowing how much stock there was this tells you nothing.Disc drive is sold out:
Other sellers on Amazon have it for double the price.
Going the pc route? As far as I'm aware (I only know 1 person that still lives in Japan so not much personal experience anymore) PC is definitely rising but it's not like it's taking over the country and the majority still play on consoles or strictly mobile.This is just for fun, as we all know the PS5 Pro is announced and oh boy that pricetag.
In Japan the PS5 is not as popular as in the west, people have been giving multiple explanations including that Japanese gamers are going the PC route.
Question is what do you think will happen with the Pro in Japan.
I personally believe it's gonna die a slow death over there
You don't think doubling the FPS and/or resolution output in several games is a huge jump over the original? And without a price increase? lol, sure thing.It wasn't a huge jump at all. Your talking hyperbole. Also can you remember what a Geforce 9080 or 1080 cost and how much a 4080 costs now? Prices have gone up. So your evidence of how the PS4 Pro cost £399 at launch has no relevance in today's market place. If 4080 alone can more than double the price of an 9080 or 1080 then it's expected a PS5 Pro will also cost more especially if Sony don't want to sell it at a loss.
I understand, i wrote it down as a reason people give for dwindling sales.Going the pc route? As far as I'm aware (I only know 1 person that still lives in Japan so not much personal experience anymore) PC is definitely rising but it's not like it's taking over the country and the majority still play on consoles or strictly mobile.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that PC gaming is getting more popular but it's not like it's the new standard. It's not much different then the west, I'm sure "hardcore" circles and forums paint a completely different picture then real life.
People spend 1.4K on phones a sub 1k console is ok in my eyes..
Will it be a mass succes?
prolly not
Same as with phones you can get a phone that does the actually essential jobs for 199, plus a tablet for 150. While you still get a regular PS5 for half the price of the Pro. The premium options can't be normalised since they are not for normal, average people. 4Pro might have been somewhat as a price successor, but this time it isn't.What is with this phone comparison I keep seeing...
Phones are a literal essential device in this day and age. Are they overpriced? Certain ones, sure.
But to say "well if phones are priced that high, a console at that price is fine too" is just idiotic and basically normalising this price point for future consoles and telling Sony that you will bend over backwards to pay it.
You don’t need expensive phonesWhat is with this phone comparison I keep seeing...
Phones are a literal essential device in this day and age. Are they overpriced? Certain ones, sure.
But to say "well if phones are priced that high, a console at that price is fine too" is just idiotic and basically normalising this price point for future consoles and telling Sony that you will bend over backwards to pay it.
What do you mean by that?Still Zen2 CPU brah
I agree, I think there should be an option like the PS5 that is $50 more.For me it's the lack of a disc drive.
The stand should 100% be included with all models.I think it's the lack of disc drive and the stand tbh. If both were included it would be an easier pill to swallow.
Aren't the prices adjusted appropriately compared to exchange rates?I think Americans are overreacting as fuck. Europeans, however
Should have been 699€Just reposting from another thread to point out the incredibly obvious reason for the reaction
PS4 (2013): €399
PS4 Pro (2016): €399
PS5 Digital (2020):€399
PS5 Pro (2024): €799
How is the value fine after we had a PS5 Digital Console launch in 2020 with better specs for the time at $399The value is fine. I think the biggest issue is the sticker shock for a gaming console. It's just too high for that space, IMO.
People say they would pay for a premium SKU all the time in threads. Turns out they're liars.Just reposting from another thread to point out the incredibly obvious reason for the reaction
PS4 (2013): €399
PS4 Pro (2016): €399
PS5 Digital (2020):€399
PS5 Pro (2024): €799
That price has gone up, though.How is the value fine after we had a PS5 Digital Console launch in 2020 with better specs for the time at $399
Just reposting from another thread to point out the incredibly obvious reason for the reaction
PS4 (2013): €399
PS4 Pro (2016): €399
PS5 Digital (2020):€399
PS5 Pro (2024): €799
The value is fine. I think the biggest issue is the sticker shock for a gaming console. It's just too high for that space, IMO.
Aren't the prices adjusted appropriately compared to exchange rates?
I'm primarily speaking about NA prices.Just reposting from another thread to point out the incredibly obvious reason for the reaction
PS4 (2013): €399
PS4 Pro (2016): €399
PS5 Digital (2020):€399
PS5 Pro (2024): €799