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PS5 Pro Pricing Discussion Thread
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
People are definitely overreacting, however most people don't need it and should pass anyway. I plan to pass.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
The presentation was dogshit. Showing games that I finished 2 years ago... so cool.
Killjoy-NL
Member
€599 would've been ideal, but whatever.
€200 more than I was expecting is manageable.
They should've included the stand though.
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The Cockatrice
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Interfectum
Member
Sony's fault. They positioned it wrong. They were too busy comparing to PS4 games instead of attacking PC gaming directly. Give us side by side video of PS5 Pro running Cyberpunk vs a 4090. Show us what it can do and, if it's able, should shut down the discussion pretty fast.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
100% this. £699 with the disk drive and stand and I would have been in day one! - I have two Disk OG PS5s and the thought of having to buy the disk drive (I have quite a few PS4/PS5 games on disk) is just too much. £830 for a marginal upgrade is pushing it too far and I'm someone who spends my money flippantly. If I am struggling then I cant imagine what it is going to be like for the mass market.
It will 100% sell out day one, but that doesnt mean shit really.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Yeah…while Sony has reduced their cost to produce the machine over the last 4 years.
There’s no justification for the Pro being the price that it is with its level of specs.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Also this, how did Sony not get CDPR to have a patch ready and show us how this thing stacks up against a 4070 PC or something?
SEGAvangelist
Member
Oh that's right. UK is getting screwed mostly.
Bartski
Gold Member
No they are adjusted very inappropriately. In Europe the console costs over 880 USD
Humdinger
Member
Yeah, probably. Close anyway. Pro was 400. This is 700.
Humdinger
Member
Yeah, $80 more for that. They're getting bought up on ebay.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I guess I read it wrong, then. That's awful.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Better GPU than what? A console from 4 years ago?
This logic is so flawed yet I keep seeing it in every thread.
By this ridiculous logic, PS6 should be $999 because it’ll have a much better CPU, GPU, and RAM than the 4-year-old PS5 Pro when it comes out in 2028.
Crazy how the iPhone 16 Pro has much better specs and features than the iPhone 12 Pro yet it costs the exact same amount to buy one at launch. You’d think it would be $2000 with all how much better the specs are!
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King Dazzar
Member
And Pro had an optical drive included...
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Sony failed here in 2 key areas:
Despite being priced at mass market level, PS4 Pro didn't sell more than 12 million units. Sony's clearly looked at that, and decided to make a more significant upgrade and price it accordingly. If they werent making a profit on this thing, it wouldn't exist.
They've also clearly looked at the digital ratio and decided splitting off the disc drive is worth it, and gamers only have themselves to blame for that. You can't buy the supermajority of games digitally and not expect the business to shift in that direction.
- This is where those goddamned PC ports become a problem. You've created a comparative case that is difficult to make.
- Showing a bunch of early PS5/crossgen/late PS4 titles is not driving enthusiasm.
Despite being priced at mass market level, PS4 Pro didn't sell more than 12 million units. Sony's clearly looked at that, and decided to make a more significant upgrade and price it accordingly. If they werent making a profit on this thing, it wouldn't exist.
They've also clearly looked at the digital ratio and decided splitting off the disc drive is worth it, and gamers only have themselves to blame for that. You can't buy the supermajority of games digitally and not expect the business to shift in that direction.
King Dazzar
Member
That was my concern too. I'm still diving in regardless. But yeah, what happens if support fizzles out.
sainraja
Member
I am not sure if MS pressured them into choosing 2TB, however, if they were going to make disc drive optional, then they had to go with 2TB.
XXL
Member
The price of PS5 right now.
It's crazy to think it's a flaw in logic, while you want to exclude the price of what the base model actually costs.....that's a flaw in logic more than anything. Get real.
sainraja
Member
I think it basically comes down to the bolded part. They are also a business after all... and our hobby wouldn't exist if companies weren't able to make a profit.
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sainraja
Member
Yeah. They needed to show the Pro with a new title designed for the PS5/Pro. Perhaps there is still time for that. We will see.
People have to decide for themselves if they want the Pro or not. If you don't want it, and don't see value in what is being offered, it is perfectly fine to choose not to get it.
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MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Ah yes the PS5, the only console in history to not only not drop in price after 4 years, but has actually gone up.
It’s almost like the console makers have suddenly decided they’re done taking losses on these machines and want as much profit as possible. It’s almost like the business model has completely changed this generation.
PS5 and Series X are the only tech in that came out in 2020 that cost the same asking price (or more) 4 years later.
We are living in unprecedented times when it comes to the console gaming space, and Sony just hit us with an unprecedented price for a disappointing mid-gen console.
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XXL
Member
So address the argument.
EU pricing sucks, I acknowledge that.
In the US.
Is $250 more than the PS5 is right now expensive for a better GPU and an extra 1TB of storage? Because I don't think it is.
Because that's the argument I'm making.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I wonder what the excuse will be if this turns out to be another Portal that surpasses Sony's expectations.
XXL
Member
So now you're going to exclude record inflation (in recent times) and pretend that didn't effect the prices?
What else are you going to exclude in the name of logic?
Fortress of Regrets
Member
Somewhere between very and extremely.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Accounting for inflation, $399 in 2020 is something like $485 in 2024
They are now charging $450 for the same console in 2024 that they were charging $399 for in 2020
We have never, ever seen this. Inflation alone does not explain it. Something has changed in the console business model.
XXL
Member
I disagree. For $250 if I could upgrade my GPU on my PC and a get an extra 1TB of storage, I would 100% do that.
Some of these arguments are starting to sound delusional.
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Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I think there is a strong possibility due to the backlash of the £700 price tag, Sony may backpedal on not including the official vertical stand as a goodwill gesture.
I can see people getting the vertical stand for free via PlayStation Direct by emailing across their receipts, or getting it as a free extra when they pre-order on the 26th of September.
Absolutely no way in hell will they inclued the disc drive though in my opinion!
saintjules
Gold Member
I think there's a lot of people hoping for the "we hear you" post from Sony and that there will be a sudden $100 price change.
Yeah, I think the omission of the vertical stand is weird and should at least get included.
Maybe they will introduce a holiday bundle of the disc drive, but I'm sure Gamestop is already getting ahead of the curve with that.
Yeah, I think the omission of the vertical stand is weird and should at least get included.
Maybe they will introduce a holiday bundle of the disc drive, but I'm sure Gamestop is already getting ahead of the curve with that.
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Honestly windows is not shit. I use all 3 major os (windows, macos and Linux mainly Ubuntu) and I enjoy using all 3. I am a software dev. My main machine runs Windows and so does my work laptop I really have no issues with it at all. I will spin up Ubuntu instances for nginx, python etc, also great. Really struggle with why people hate on Windows so much.
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Mephisto40
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The PS4 systems even included a disc drive. And PS5 digital OG a stand.
Sony is in profit making mode. Way back even with cheap priced systems they were taking in money 13% net profit. Last bunch of years it’s down to 6% for whatever reasons…. Costs, bungie, cancelled gaas games etc…. It’s not like the 30% cut has gone away. So they got some costs cutting profitability in half.
Hence the high price, gamepads going up another $5-10 etc…. They are doing exactly what many companies did long time ago which only recently game makers have done. Focus on profits instead of trying to sell a gazillion consoles and games at rock bottom prices for sake of user base.
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FalconPunch
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Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I mean isn't the biggest issue with it? They are asking lot of money with minimal upgrade and you have to pay extra 100$ if you want play physical games you own.
People keep saying this is a premium product but they didn’t bother put basic feature you would expect buying console like disc drive or even vertical stand.
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John Wick
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So which games ran at 4K native and which games ran at 60fps locked?
As explained to you before current market conditions dictate what you can build at what price. It's clear you have no clue. Prices have risen steeply in the last 4-5 years. Why don't you build us a console with more power than a PS5 Pro and cheaper as well??? Clearly you seem to know more than everyone else.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Oh I agree that their attempt at showing it off as a premium product has been horrible. And the no stand is beyond idiotic.
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Chopino
Neo Member
That's what make me mad.That’s the keyword here.
Did we go backwards? From 8K to 4K? Or do we all know marketing is full of shit? The RTX 3090 was also marketed as an 8K GPU.
I was so excited by this when i got mine thinking in all those 4k 60fps games. Now i have to pay 800€ or play ff rebirth/Dragons Dogma at sub-4k 30fps.
WTF SONY
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R6Rider
Gold Member
If you actually thought the PS5, a $400 system, was going to play games at 4k60 across the board, then that's on you.
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Go_Ly_Dow
Member
They also didn't give the option for a cheaper 1TB version that could have been $100/£100 less and would have also have greatly reduced the negative PR (coupled with a fairer Euro price).