• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

PSN still down, internal testers online in various games though

Status
Not open for further replies.
I decided to re-arrange my man cave today, mount tv on wall...move speakers around some, change the furniture layout etc etc...I guess the outage was good for getting me to do something productive...now, I want to own the noobs online.

(popped Motorstorm PR back in today, just an awesome game)
 
yurinka said:
Sony said it was 1 hacker. So they must have some clue. They said up to 10 million credit cards info may be stoled, even they don't have anything that can confirm this.

They are working with FBI, some 9/11 guys, credit card companies and 2 leading on-line security companies investigating it.
Click to expand...
True, i just thought that maybe not all info were stolen eventhough that they cant rule out that this actually happened. Hopefully as little info as possible were stolen, but i guess that we'll never know about this for sure, unless the whole PSN database gets leaked online by the hacker (or someone else).

Indeed. Sony also said that they would inform people when they knew something from the FBI. Although that the damage is already done, i'm still interested to hear what happeneds next in the case.
 
Salaadin said:
Im not sure where else to ask about this but theres a lot of people in here that dealt with credit card fraud or know a decent amount about it...

I just got a phone call from the bank about my Mastercard that I rarely use saying that there is a 437.00 charge on it for Carribean Airlines yesterday. I didnt authorize that so now I have to cancel that card number, my online account, and have everything re-issued. Small pain in the ass but Ill deal, they said Im not responsible for it and wont have to pay it.

My issue is how else would they get that card number? Someone had to get the number from somewhere and the only time I used it recently was on Direct2Drive yesterday to buy Vampire:The Masquerade for 8 bucks. As of yesterday, the card existed on 3 websites...Amazon, newegg, and D2D.

What are the odds of having a keylogger? Are they common? I have MSE and spybot running all the time and do checks with malwarebytes frequently. The last spyware issue I had was on Sunday while searching google images, I got one of those fake spyware scanner pages that set MSE off and I got all the warnings and cleaned that right up.

Im so careful with this card too. Weekly emails to inform me of the balance even though the balance is almost always zero. The ONLY reason I used it for D2D was because my other card is cancelled because thats the one I used on PSN. Funny how that works :/

Sorry I sound so clueless but Im just little bewildered that I can be so careful and still have this happen. Im feeling hesitant to buy online ever again now.
Click to expand...

Well, think back to all the times you've used the card, whether it was online or offline. And by offline, I meant, did you use that card to pay for anything at a store, order pizza, etc?

Anytime you use the card anywhere, there's always a chance someone can somehow acquire the number on that little piece of plastic.

If you think you're computer is infected, run some anti-malware programs, on top of what you already have. For the most part, if those don't find anything, you probably don't have a keylogger on there.
 
HaRyu said:
Well, think back to all the times you've used the card, whether it was online or offline. And by offline, I meant, did you use that card to pay for anything at a store, order pizza, etc?

Anytime you use the card anywhere, there's always a chance someone can somehow acquire the number on that little piece of plastic.
Click to expand...


The card could also have a chip in it that wirelessly sends the info.
 
Rebel Leader said:
The card could also have a chip in it that wirelessly sends the info.
Click to expand...

Good point, my brother was asking me about that a few days ago too. :P
You can do what he did, and get a little metal case for his cards, he uses that to hide the RFID in it.
 
HaRyu said:
Good point, my brother was asking me about that a few days ago too. :P
You can do what he did, and get a little metal case for his cards, he uses that to hide the RFID in it.
Click to expand...


Who the hell thought the RFID was a good idea?
 
HaRyu said:
Well, think back to all the times you've used the card, whether it was online or offline. And by offline, I meant, did you use that card to pay for anything at a store, order pizza, etc?

Anytime you use the card anywhere, there's always a chance someone can somehow acquire the number on that little piece of plastic.

If you think you're computer is infected, run some anti-malware programs, on top of what you already have. For the most part, if those don't find anything, you probably don't have a keylogger on there.
Click to expand...


Yeah, good points. Im just overly worried now and more paranoid than I was before.

Does RFID transmit EVERYTHING? This fraudelent transaction was done thru Caribbean Airlines in "Internet NY" so it was obviously done online...theyd probably need my name, billing address (zip, at least) and maybe even the security code from the back.

EDIT: Just checked the Caribbean Airlines website and they do ask for CVC2 as well as the address. Damn. Someone got ahold of everything...
 
HaRyu said:
Good point, my brother was asking me about that a few days ago too. :P
You can do what he did, and get a little metal case for his cards, he uses that to hide the RFID in it.
Click to expand...

Are credit cards still valid if say, you use a hole punch to knock the little fucker out of there?
 
Salaadin said:
Yeah, good points. Im just overly worried now and more paranoid than I was before.

Does RFID transmit EVERYTHING? This fraudelent transaction was done thru Caribbean Airlines in "Internet NY" so it was obviously done online...theyd probably need my name, billing address (zip, at least) and maybe even the security code from the back.

EDIT: Just checked the Caribbean Airlines website and they do ask for CVC2 as well as the address. Damn. Someone got ahold of everything...
Click to expand...
There was a restaurant where I live that had two guys that would get credit card numbers off of customers when they paid for food. Small town, so not hard to find out other personal info. Then they would sell the info online. I have seen trade channels where all people do are buy and sell credit card numbers.

Scary? I guess

I don't ever worry about it because I have a great CC company and they take care of me if shit goes down wrong. Really your best defense.
 
Mr Pockets said:
There was a restaurant where I live that had two guys that would get credit card numbers off of customers when they paid for food. Small town, so not hard to find out other personal info. Then they would sell the info online. I have seen trade channels where all people do are buy and sell credit card numbers.

Scary? I guess

I don't ever worry about it because I have a great CC company and they take care of me if shit goes down wrong. Really your best defense.
Click to expand...

The only thing that bothered me about my CC company was that this transaction happened yesterday but I didnt get a call yesterday. They were alerted when I tried paying for Portal 2 this morning from amazon and it was denied. I retried Amazon, they approved it, but then called me. I dont know.

Other than that, the CC company was extremely easy and understanding. Told me flat out that I wont have to pay a dime for this. Theyre just sending me an affidavit in the mail and all I need to do is fill it out, circle any fraudelent charges, and send it back.
 
Rebel Leader said:
Who the hell thought the RFID was a good idea?
Click to expand...

Lazy people. :p

Foxix said:
Are credit cards still valid if say, you use a hole punch to knock the little fucker out of there?
Click to expand...

I would think as long as you didn't damage the actual number, the numbers on the back, and the magnetic stripe, it should still be good to use normally.

Mr Pockets said:
There was a restaurant where I live that had two guys that would get credit card numbers off of customers when they paid for food. Small town, so not hard to find out other personal info. Then they would sell the info online. I have seen trade channels where all people do are buy and sell credit card numbers.

Scary? I guess

I don't ever worry about it because I have a great CC company and they take care of me if shit goes down wrong. Really your best defense.
Click to expand...

I've mentioned either in this thread or another related one a few days ago, but I was the victim of some bastard taking my card number. It was a local pizza place, where I gave my number over the phone. I was hit TWICE by the same place, in the same month. The first time, I didn't know it was them, but the 2nd time, w/ the replacement card that was sent to me, the very first thing I buy is pizza from them. Next day, some bastard tries to buy a laptop with it. This was about 2 years ago.

Even though I was a victim of it, it really hasn't affected me much in terms of what I do w/ my card. I still order online, and I still order food over the phone. I even still order from that pizza place, but I pay cash to them. ^O^
 
Salaadin said:
The only thing that bothered me about my CC company was that this transaction happened yesterday but I didnt get a call yesterday. They were alerted when I tried paying for Portal 2 this morning from amazon and it was denied. I retried Amazon, they approved it, but then called me. I dont know.

Other than that, the CC company was extremely easy and understanding. Told me flat out that I wont have to pay a dime for this. Theyre just sending me an affidavit in the mail and all I need to do is fill it out, circle any fraudelent charges, and send it back.
Click to expand...
Yeah a lot of times they don't contact you until something comes up strange. Maybe over 24hrs they noticed a geographical discrepancy between purchases and red flags went up.

My USAA account asks me to notify them if I plan to travel outside my normal area of operation. Once I went to Vancouver (from Seattle) and tried to use my card a few times, after 3rd transaction it was denied. Called them up, verified it was ok, they turned off the block. Annoyed me a bit at the time, but overall comforting to know.
 
Let's be honest. Many of us wish our ex-girlfriends could have made as much an effort in jumping back into our hearts as Sony is doing.

When's the last time your ex bowed to you when apologizing for fucking up?
 
Kagari said:
The turnaround here on gaf on this issue and the gaming community in general is really amazing.
Click to expand...

Would that not be a reflection of Sony's efforts to make right with its customers and potential clients?

Or are we simply fools with money, and the saying will inevitably part us from it?
 
jn6nwE.jpg


cool photo. Sony should seize this opportunity to turn around a lot of things that need addressing in their company.
 
Rebel Leader said:
Look at Kaz's face... maybe that's why
Click to expand...

As bitter and cranky as gamers are, they can still react appropriately to a human face portraying genuine emotion.

Frankly, I'm pretty surprised myself at how many people seem to be feeling better already. I was confident that people wouldn't be mad for as long as they thought they would, but this is really fast. (Not that this thread is a perfect sample to go by.)
 
watership said:
Neogaf: SONY YOU SCREWED UP.
SONY: Sorry. (bow)
Neogaf: No, I'm sorry, for doubting you.

smh
Click to expand...

We moved on. What more do you want? Anger at Sony forever? Never buy another Sony product ever? The best we can do is make sure our credit cards are safe and buy from PSN with PSN cards instead of credit cards. After that, theres no point to anything else.
 
Salaadin said:
We moved on. What more do you want? Anger at Sony forever? Never buy another Sony product ever? The best we can do is make sure our credit cards are safe and buy from PSN with PSN cards instead of credit cards. After that, theres no point to anything else.
Click to expand...
Let's stay mad at Phillips for Zelda Cd-i
 
spats said:
Guys why won't you stay mad? STAY MAD LONGER!
Click to expand...

I'm not mad, but I'm bewildered. Corporate behavior and mistakes are not absolved by a person saying sorry at a press conference. The apology was expected, I just don't see why people don't see that they had no choice.

I accept the apology, of course. And I respect Kaz, I always have. But I didn't need an apology. I needed Sony to stop installling root kits, locking poeple out of other OS options, going after kids who hack hardware for fun and running a secure network that they didn't have to shut off for 2 weeks because they designed it poorly.

Am I crazy?
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
Why don't you explain how you think people should be acting now?
Click to expand...
"But, but, Sony is evil who takes away the right of the people....." say the hackers who STOLE our credit cards.
 
Ugh, this shit HAD to happen while I was in the process of getting a replacement for my broken PS3.

:(

Now I have to go through some hoops, it looks like. Oh well. Rock Band dlc... you will be mine again soon enough!
 
watership said:
Neogaf: SONY YOU SCREWED UP.
SONY: Sorry. (bow). We're going to get reinforce our security system and have online up next week plus some free goodies.
Neogaf: Okay, cool. Just don't let it happen again
Click to expand...

Fixed for reality.
 
I still think they screwed up, badly, but good on them to trying to solve the issue.

however the damage is done, for instance when Nintendo stream/wii2 comes out, I most likely would trade in one of my consoles(360 and ps3) towards it, this accident just make the scenario of me trading in PS3 much more likely.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Nintendo Seemingly Introduced More Cartridge Size for Switch 2 Games - Larger Games Still Likely Key Cards Though
42
1K
ReBurn replied
Sony Patents PSSR Breakthrough To Eliminate FPS Drops And Lower Internal Resolution In Games
2 3 4 5 6
259
2K
Lagspike_exe replied
Ubisoft Unions call for international strike "We're shutting it down"
2 3 4
178
2K
IbizaPocholo replied
2K Games Adding Mandatory 14-Day Online Check to PC Games Following Recent Denuvo Cracks
2 3
103
305
RafterXL replied
New PS4/PS5 games bought digitally, now require a online check in every 30 days [Update] Sony: online check is one time, not every 30 days
News Drama Community  29 30 31 32 33
2K
2K
ReBurn replied
Top Bottom