KennyLinder
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KPJZKC said:
Yep it was Intergalactic
I am an old fucker, I get confused! 
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Yep it was Intergalactic
I am an old fucker, I get confused! If you're a small publisher or developer who was due to release something on PSN during this time you'd be spitting blood. Stuff like this can really upset things.
And if you're a big publisher who loves milking everything you can out of DLC and microtransactions then you won't be best pleased either.
Sony will most likely be compensating people to some degree, developer and publisher relations haven't been exactly helped by all this. And the worse Sony's PR department handle it, the more frustration that will come out of it.
It won't just be consumers pissed off at all this.
Mizzou Gaming
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Withnail said:
See thats the question, could there be a stipulation put into some contracts that guarantee a minimal amount of PSN accessibility and/or guarantee service restoration within a set amount of time. Then we have the outdated security software accusations. If they discover insufficent security was in place could devs sue on SONY being negligent?
Im not asking to inflame anyone I was just curious if these sort of guarantees existed via contracts between SONY and publishers.
PeakPointMatrix
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I haven't kept up completely with this crisis, but are we able to change our PSN passwords at the moment yet?
Audioboxer
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DECK'ARD said:
Definitely agree with that more so that retail releases, as retail releases still go into the shops unharmed.
For the PSN devs I guess it's just a case of seeing how sales go once PSN is back up. People will still buy worthwhile games, maybe even more so if they've been sitting on their wallet for weeks
Devs I guess will be more sympathetic towards security related issues, any network with rampant piracy or security threats harbors some concern. I'm sure one of the issues just before downtime was some sort of custom firmware allowing PSN games to be grabbed for free.
Mizzou Gaming said:
No one is likely to be jumping around suing anyone, and there will be clauses in place to allow for downtime. Even if this situation is unprecedented and exceeds the clauses in agreements, it's far more likely Sony will act to compensate developers and publishers without having to be pushed or the bad PR of anything else.
They are just as worried about content providers' confidence in their service and support of the platform, as consumers.
Mr. Pointy
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Well, so much for trying to get my MK Classic Reptile skin.
Fuck it, if the game has decent DLC I'll just get it on Xbox now. Kratos was a low-tier character anyway.
Fuck it, if the game has decent DLC I'll just get it on Xbox now. Kratos was a low-tier character anyway.
get2sammyb
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Wouldn't it be appropriate of Sony to lower their licensing fee on PSN content for a short period? They're just going to have to take the hit, innit.
Jinfash
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I really don't blame the people who're freaking out.
The idea of the conference was to shed light on the causes of the breach and share the road map to the full PSN recovery, as a way of showing that they have things under control now and instill some sense of confidence in people.
They made it perfectly clear that network play would be back up "within a week" and assigned the less clear " later this month" date for the full recovery.
Right up to this point things were finally looking up.
A day or two later, news of the SOE breach start surfacing, much to our and Sony's surprise, and right after that the sweepstakes database gets leaked online (sure, it was old and doesn't pose as a threat, but it's still bad press for Sony).
And if that wasn't enough to shake what faith people have started regaining, the deadlines were obviously subjected to change: a week is over with no sign of network play getting back up, "within a week" turns to "next week" and now if the thread title is accurate the word is "uncertain."
Full recovery however goes from the slightly optimistic "later this month" to "31th of May" as in: The very last day of the month. In other words, any issue arising from now until then, no matter how small, may push the date further to the much worse sounding "Beginning of June."
The bottom line is: we're not exactly on track and definitely not on the schedule set during the conference, since a few variables have come into play. How much did they complicate things? we have no idea.
So yeah, the "uncertainty" will freak out people, and understandably so. The only way of avoiding the freak outs in this thread is to create a separate thread for reactions lol, otherwise we can only watch, and wait for them to get it out of their systems.
The idea of the conference was to shed light on the causes of the breach and share the road map to the full PSN recovery, as a way of showing that they have things under control now and instill some sense of confidence in people.
They made it perfectly clear that network play would be back up "within a week" and assigned the less clear " later this month" date for the full recovery.
Right up to this point things were finally looking up.
A day or two later, news of the SOE breach start surfacing, much to our and Sony's surprise, and right after that the sweepstakes database gets leaked online (sure, it was old and doesn't pose as a threat, but it's still bad press for Sony).
And if that wasn't enough to shake what faith people have started regaining, the deadlines were obviously subjected to change: a week is over with no sign of network play getting back up, "within a week" turns to "next week" and now if the thread title is accurate the word is "uncertain."
Full recovery however goes from the slightly optimistic "later this month" to "31th of May" as in: The very last day of the month. In other words, any issue arising from now until then, no matter how small, may push the date further to the much worse sounding "Beginning of June."
The bottom line is: we're not exactly on track and definitely not on the schedule set during the conference, since a few variables have come into play. How much did they complicate things? we have no idea.
So yeah, the "uncertainty" will freak out people, and understandably so. The only way of avoiding the freak outs in this thread is to create a separate thread for reactions lol, otherwise we can only watch, and wait for them to get it out of their systems.
bigtroyjon
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Definitely agree with that more so that retail releases, as retail releases still go into the shops unharmed.
For the PSN devs I guess it's just a case of seeing how sales go once PSN is back up. People will still buy worthwhile games, maybe even more so if they've been sitting on their wallet for weeks
Devs I guess will be more sympathetic towards security related issues, any network with rampant piracy or security threats harbors some concern. I'm sure one of the issues just before downtime was some sort of custom firmware allowing PSN games to be grabbed for free.
Outside of a tiny, tiny minority, video game consumers are not sitting on their wallets. The money that would have been spent on PSN games will have been spent on physical games or other industries altogether.
If we somehow manage to get to E3 without everything being back to normal, well I wouldn't like to be Sony.
May 31st is leaving them every day they have said from the earlier statement, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence to say it and it's cutting things awfully close.
May 31st is leaving them every day they have said from the earlier statement, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence to say it and it's cutting things awfully close.
test_account
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Yeah, that might be a thing that Sony is also working on now indeed.GavinGT said:
Yeah, the Beasty Boys song got specific "another dimention" while the Prodigy Song has "another dimention" as a part of a sentence, that is true.KPJZKC said:
Audioboxer
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bigtroyjon said:
True, people always find some other use for their money, but there is a fairly good chance if you haven't been on psn for weeks or bought anything you're going to consider having a look at the store, especially if you know game windows you're interested in have been missed.
Audioboxer
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equap said:
No, Sony did 8 days ago - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...network-qriocity-service-by-end-of-month.html
fastford58
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Holy shit...it's only the 9th
Just for the record: I hate Hades in God of War 1.
I'm taking a break, trying to cross those spike poles to get to a save point to do "You got the touch!" is too annoying. Stupid enemies spawn and then knock me off the pole, thereby screwing with my checkpoints. :|
I'm taking a break, trying to cross those spike poles to get to a save point to do "You got the touch!" is too annoying. Stupid enemies spawn and then knock me off the pole, thereby screwing with my checkpoints. :|
Noisepurge
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TheSeks said:
what a fun level that is :E just remember to stop at all steady platforms and shoot all harpies in advance. and by "fun" i mean torture, like the PSN downtime!
Bumblebeetuna
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I know that they said other services would be up before PSN is fully up but does anyone have faith in even that anymore? They already delayed the restart of those smaller services 3 times, something is up. I'm starting to think it might be weeks before we can play online. I was so sure they'd at least make sure to have online play up and running by the day Brink launched. Way to fail Sony. Not sure how this takes so long. It's not like they have to build PSN from scratch.
I am having Madden withdraws. At least I have my 360 and PC to help.
I am having Madden withdraws. At least I have my 360 and PC to help.
Audioboxer
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gofreak said:
It's more just about the media reporting certain headlines, people reading them, and then jumping to conclusion and telling their friends/contacts online.
Most level headed people will happily be corrected, then in this case, relieved to be
VeryGooster
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So no exclusive L.A. Noire cases for me at launch? 
Alligatorjandro
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I cant wait that long.I could get attacked by a bear and die.
AceBandage
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Alligatorjandro said:
Why? Are you starting your period?
Fallout-NL
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alr1ghtstart said:
I predict the #1 story on N4G by the end of the day will be "PSN down until May 31"
Serves em (Sony) right for giving only one date, especially considering how this week went by (whereas they said some services would be up). No wonder everyone half assumes PSN to be down until then.
WrenchNinja
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Oh god, May 31st? My little brother is going to lose it if PSN isn't up soon. He's a codfiend and I'm surprised he's lasted this long, though Pokemon has probably helped. I don't think I can break his little 12 year old heart with this news.
test_account
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Unless it is on the disc. Kratos for Mortal Kombat 9 was on the disc, so who knows how it will be wil L.A. Noire =)Gooster said:So no exclusive L.A. Noire cases for me at launch?
Alligatorjandro
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AceBandage said:
Im not sure
NEOPARADIGM
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Online play, friends lists, gamercards, etc., back by Thursday; store offline until June.
That's what me gut says.
That's what me gut says.
Dedication Through Light
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NEOPARADIGM said:
Imma go with Tuesday, seems odd to miss a PS Store update.
glaurung said:
Actually, it's not as bad as you fear. It really isn't.
I've played all 3 versions of BC2 extensively, and honestly I get my ass served to me hardest in the 360 version. Then PC and PS3 are about equal.
The 360 version of BC2 is full of ringers. I have gotten annihilated in many ugly ways in that version of the game.
NEOPARADIGM
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Dedication Through Light said:
That was my first thought, to be honest. Just wanted to give them an extra couple of days, for my own sanity.
Straightballin
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So its been almost 2 days since the deadline and they haven't updated us? This is getting pathetic.
RPGCrazied
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Wow, May 31?
That's another 3 weeks! Even if thats for the store, thats a really long time. That would mean the store would have been down for over a month. That's crazy. I agree with the other poster said about E3, if its not all up by then, well it wont be a good day for Sony.
Just terrible.
That's another 3 weeks! Even if thats for the store, thats a really long time. That would mean the store would have been down for over a month. That's crazy. I agree with the other poster said about E3, if its not all up by then, well it wont be a good day for Sony.
Just terrible.
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