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PSN still down, internal testers online in various games though

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DECK'ARD said:
Sony's communication has been terrible, from day 1, it always is when anything goes wrong.

It's a big story, it made the mainstream media, when a story is this big you have to be on top of it and not give people reason to doubt, be vague, or let people start filling in the gaps themselves. The onus is on Sony to restore confidence, keep people informed, and meet the deadlines they set.

It's not just gaming journalism where this happens, look what happens to Apple when there is even a whiff of a fuck-up. The Internet loves stuff like this. The difference is Apple come down really hard to put their side across, and then give dates for things to address it which they hit and kill the story.

The fallout from something like this was always going to be big, but Sony have made it far worse than it could have been by appearing clueless and vague throughout.
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Spot on. I don't understand people who complain about "oh Kotaku wrote this" or "Ars Technica wrote that"; Sony effectively gave the media carte blanche to write whatever they want.
 
Kandrick said:
This a forum about videogames.

People that only own a PS3 cant play games online
People that own both xbox 360 and PS3 but have the PS3 version of a game cant play online
People that want to redeem online passes cant
People that want to redeem <insert_random_dlc> cant
People that want to buy stuff from the PS store cant.
etc.

And you wonder why people care ?
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Agree. I really wish people wouldn't be so condescending about something that is a part of a lot of gamers everyday lives even if they are playing for an hour or 10 hours the fact it's not working is pretty frustrating.
 
BolognaSoup said:
After 5 RROD, 1 YLOD, and this I'm just done with this horrendous console generation. Bring PSN back so I can get my Portal 2 PC code and I'm selling these unreliable pieces of garbage and not looking back.
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If FFVersusXIII and The Last Guardian were coming to PC, I'd be doing the same at this point.
 
Cheech said:
Infamous 2 being free as a result of this is really not that far fetched.

1. It is releasing around the time the PSN is supposed to be back up.
2. Nobody already owns it, so unless you really hated the first game, it is a great gift. By all accounts, it is going to be awesome, so it's not like we're all getting SOCOM 4 or something.
3. Sucker Punch's sales are going to get killed, and that is the developer that has a lot to lose as a result of all this. Sony wants to stay in their good graces, so why not just take it up the tailpipe to keep them on board.

Now, it may piss off a few retailers, but it's not like Sony stuff is flying out the door right now anyway.
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LOL Oh yes it is! The game cost millions to make and combined with the fact that Sony has already lost millions, I seriously doubt that they'll dig themselves into a deeper hole. It seems to me that they'd rather spend money on a PR campaign in an attempt to deflect the blame they should be getting for their shit security.

Y'all will be lucky to get a $5.00 PSN card.
 
Smision said:
kevin butler isn't a real person
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What?
In the sense of
fightclub1b.jpg
?

Or just that he's a character created for promotional proposes?
 
BolognaSoup said:
After 5 RROD, 1 YLOD, and this I'm just done with this horrendous console generation. Bring PSN back so I can get my Portal 2 PC code and I'm selling these unreliable pieces of garbage and not looking back.
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Since apparently the market is about to be over saturated with used PS3's from over-dramatic people, I'll do you a favor and take that "unreliable piece of garbage" off your hands for fifty bucks. =D
 
3rdman said:
LOL Oh yes it is! The game cost millions to make and combined with the fact that Sony has already lost millions, I seriously doubt that they'll dig themselves into a deeper hole. It seems to me that they'd rather spend money on a PR campaign in an attempt to deflect the blame they should be getting for their shit security.

Y'all will be lucky to get a $5.00 PSN card.
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We got a year of credit monitoring at the least, so I think we've exceeded the $5.00 PSN card.
 
Smision said:
kevin butler isn't a real person
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OMG REALLY? Are you gonna tell me the Tooth Fairy isn't real? Anyways, I know Kevin Butler isn't the face of Sony, but his Twitter account was good entertainment and I miss it. Then again, there's not much he can make fun of at this time.
 
Littlegator said:
So you're telling me I can't play Portal 2 SP for over a month after it comes out?

Fuck.
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Probably not.

As soon as you can log in you can link your accounts. No visit to the PSN store necessary.
 
StuBurns said:
You can play it right now. And PSN log-in isn't a month away, the store is.
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I also doubt the store will be a month away. The May 31st deadline is an internal deadline. IF it takes Sony that long to get the store up, then they will seriously piss off a bunch of publishers. And that might make it easier for MS to get timed exclusive DLC (because let's face it; any previously simultaneous DLC being released during the time PSN is down is essentially timed exclusive DLC).
 
Lince said:
lol a friend just texted me "Polyphony Digital rebuilding PSN confirmed"...
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Better than Dyack or 3DRealms. I guess we could compare it to Molyneux as well, he'd just lie his ass off about promising shit.
 
AnEternalEnigma said:
Of course it's linked to the store. Where do you think you're downloading them from?
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But you can download updates and things anyway, they don't have to put the store up to make code redemption work I imagine.
 
It's difficult to believe to new deadlines when they continue to miss previous ones.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get the promised partial resume at all but directly a full resume announcement at E3.
 
I wonder what it's been like working in the teams doing all this stuff since PSN went down.

A post-mortem exposé telling the whole story from their perspective would be really interesting. The draaama, the pressure. Although we could blame them as a collective for this mess in the first place, I do have an amount of sympathy for them at the moment.
 
Solstice said:
Since apparently the market is about to be over saturated with used PS3's from over-dramatic people, I'll do you a favor and take that "unreliable piece of garbage" off your hands for fifty bucks. =D
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Yeah, because not being able to play your games online for over a month is no big deal at all...
 
Elios83 said:
It's difficult to believe to new deadlines when they continue to miss previous ones.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get the promised partial resume at all but directly a full resume announcement at E3.
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If it's not up at E3 they might as well commit seppuku on stage.

Everything will get overshadowed by the schadenfreude, and how on earth do they talk about anything regarding PSN or the games coming to it without being laughed off the stage?

That's the most worrying thing for them about this May 31st deadline, it's cutting it awfully close and if it does come back by then it's got to stay up and there be no teething problems.
 
Maxim726X said:
Yeah, because not being able to play your games online for over a month is no big deal at all...
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I was being facetious....


Zoibie said:
That still has to go through the Store.
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True, but they might be able to open some sort of back door that just allows for stuff that has a redeemed code to be downloaded at that moment. I mean, it's just a thought....
 
gofreak said:
I wonder what it's been like working in the teams doing all this stuff since PSN went down.

A post-mortem exposé telling the whole story from their perspective would be really interesting. The draaama, the pressure. Although we could blame them as a collective for this mess in the first place, I do have an amount of sympathy for them at the moment.
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Totally.

It must be really tiring.
Bet it's kinda scary to wonder if you're job is still secure too.
 
gofreak said:
I wonder what it's been like working in the teams doing all this stuff since PSN went down.

A post-mortem exposé telling the whole story from their perspective would be really interesting. The draaama, the pressure. Although we could blame them as a collective for this mess in the first place, I do have an amount of sympathy for them at the moment.
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Good enough for a movie, I would say.
 
lifa-cobex said:
Totally.

It must be really tiring.
Bet it's kinda scary to wonder if you're job is still secure too.
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I don't know. I bet the teams had mother's day off. I know they probably didn't, but it would help to justify anger at faceless teams for taking so long.
 
offshore said:
Spot on. I don't understand people who complain about "oh Kotaku wrote this" or "Ars Technica wrote that"; Sony effectively gave the media carte blanche to write whatever they want.
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I think that most people have been mostly annoyed over the articles that posted speculations basically as facts, or at least they could have been clearer that what they wrote in the article is based on speculations, so people wouldnt belive that what they wrote is actually facts. But i agree that it would be better if Sony had cleared up many of these things much earlier, since then it would most likely be less speculations and miss-information.
 
jackdoe said:
I don't know. I bet the teams had mother's day off.
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Yeah right! Mother's Day isn't a holiday most people get off anyway, especially when a company is shitting brick as Sony does right now. Don't bet on them having much time off - this is why they pay salary, so that when shit goes down, people DO stay and work.
 
There was no mothers day here in Argentina.
Stop lying guys! STOPIT!
 
If it does rumble on until E3 you can bet Microsoft won't be able to bite their tongue any longer either.

Wanting PSN back up Vs. epic E3 press-conferences. Ultimate GAF dilemma :/
 
IrishNinja said:
it'd be cool if Beyond Good & Evil HD was ready for PSN when it came back up.
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It should be, but now that the Store won't be up, it won't. Also, when if does come up, they may just stall out and artificially delay all the missed updates instead of having one mega update. And we'd be behind with content for an even longer time, or they would forget to release things. Or devs pull out because of the delay. That would suck.
 
BolognaSoup said:
After 5 RROD, 1 YLOD, and this I'm just done with this horrendous console generation. Bring PSN back so I can get my Portal 2 PC code and I'm selling these unreliable pieces of garbage and not looking back. Really can't wait to build a PC now.
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The PS2 and Dreamcast both love you.

well, a gaming PC would too. (I'm working up to that point myself.)
 
gofreak said:
'People'/'The media' either have goldfish memory or just don't pay attention to the stuff they report on.
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This happens all the time. There have been plenty of times where we've had a gazillion rumors pointing towards a certain game being worked on, or even confirmation that a game is being worked on, and then 3-4 months later when it's officially revealed people go nuts. "I did not see this coming at all!".
 
jetsetfluken said:
It should be, but now that the Store won't be up, it won't. Also, when if does come up, they may just stall out and artificially delay all the missed updates instead of having one mega update. And we'd be behind with content for an even longer time, or they would forget to release things. Or devs pull out because of the delay. That would suck.
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That would be the dumbest thing for Sony to do. It should either be one mega update or a bunch of smaller updates daily so that everything is caught up by a week's end. Anything else would piss off publishers even more.
 
DECK'ARD said:
If it does rumble on until E3 you can bet Microsoft won't be able to bite their tongue any longer either.

Wanting PSN back up Vs. epic E3 press-conferences. Ultimate GAF dilemma :/
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Even if Sony doesn't make any references to the debacle, I reckon the other two might (will?) take pretty cheap shots at it. Especially if Nintendo ends up unveiling their online strategy for Cafe, and ends up utilizing something unfavorable; they'll try to get away with it under the guise of prioritizing security wink wink.
 
jetsetfluken said:
It should be, but now that the Store won't be up, it won't. Also, when if does come up, they may just stall out and artificially delay all the missed updates instead of having one mega update. And we'd be behind with content for an even longer time, or they would forget to release things. Or devs pull out because of the delay. That would suck.
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They'll have to stagger the releases, just having one huge update would be terrible for the devs sales-wise.
 
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