The Faceless Master
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fixednyprimus2 said:I hope the Go! is £149.
fixednyprimus2 said:I hope the Go! is £149.
I'll rent every game and never connect my PSP again!WhiteAce said:what if all PSP Go! games are rental based and really low priced, but with a purchase option?
WhiteAce said:what if all PSP Go! games are rental based and really low priced, but with a purchase option?
like composite cables in a hd console?DMeisterJ said:Now we need to speculate on what's in the box. Obviously, there is a lack of USB ports (read: none) on there, so there is definitely going to have to be a proprietary input -> USB so people can hook the thing up to a comp and DL stuff. Makes no sense to not have that bundled if they are going to have a DD only console, even if you can reach the PS Store on the Go, people don't want to have to buy more ish when they want to use their comp.
Also, Sony can go the iPhone 3G route, and have a power adapter that has a USB slot on one side, so the cable can masquerade as a charging cable too. And expecting people to DL Media Manager is wrong, so include the disc with the retail package too. You give it away as a free download, so it can't be that bad in terms of cost.
So in the box (Value Pack)
PSP Go
Charging/usb cable
power adapter
Game and/or PSN card
Media Manager
Headphones
Seems like a nice package for $249, but better at $229 or $200.
The Faceless Master said:like composite cables in a hd console?
that's leaving money on the table they could get (and appease retailers with) by not bundling the sync cable.
and most people have BT on their PC's, right?Polk said:Well Go has BT, so there's no need for usb cable.
QFT.666 said:Download only is the end of competitive purchase. You pay $x for this game until we say so with no competition on the specific console kinda sucks. And then you don't own anything. Digital delivery now being a reality is kinda worrying me more & more.
Tellaerin said:Larger games on a handheld are no more a mistake on the PSP than they are on, say, the DS. Which is to say, not a mistake at all. Just because people have found there's money to be made hawking shittastic cellphone-style microgames for a couple of bucks apiece, why does this suddenly have to become the dominant model for handheld gaming?
If publishers want to diversify their portfolios and increase profit margins by jumping on that bandwagon in addition to producing more full-fledged titles, that's great. But the reason I'm partial to the PSP in the first place is because it offers me something deeper than the than fifteen-minute time-wasters that are popular on smartphones.
nah, i think consumers will say "where do i put the game" and then the guy says "you download the games from the internet with wifi" and thats when the person says "let me get the one that plays the games, and i want madden 10"Tobor said:Have the last 3 years taught you guys nothing?
To the average consumer, 16GB of internal memory is going to be seen as a huge upgrade. Consumers are trained at this point to look at the GB's on every consumer electronics product. Why do you think the GB is so predominantly displayed on the new boxes.
"This one has 16GB, how much does that one have?"
"The 3000 has none, but with a bundle you can get a 4GB card! And this one plays UMD's!"
"What's a UMD? I'll take the one with 16GB."
It's a no brainer, especially if the price difference is $50.
expected? what? you can buy new games right off the PSP. and if you have a PS3, you already have a USB cable, and it also has bluetooth.spwolf said:as you are expected to use usb cable to sync for new games, it will be bundled in.
i mentioned it before, it should be same as in cybershot cameras - one input and several outputs.
brokenFUN said:Sony needs to allow the user to install another OS if they desired too. Otherwise there is still going to be a lot of home brewing leading up to mass piracy on there platform.
yeah WinMophones with BT can sync and tether their internet connection via BT as well.Polk said:I'm sure you can synch all BT enabled nokia phones via BT (thru Nokia PC Suite).
Sure, every pc has at least one usb port, but not every pc has BT.
And maybe you're right. Synching by BT would make to much hassle.
StrikerObi said:Why? If they do then there will be a lot of home brewing leading up to mass piracy on another platform.
I don't think we've seen a picture yet of a standard USB mini port on the PSP Go? Just the HDMI-looking thing?The Faceless Master said:expected? what? you can buy new games right off the PSP. and if you have a PS3, you already have a USB cable, and it also has bluetooth.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru said:The thinking is that since PS3 let people install Linux, that staved off a lot of progressive hackers who were content with tweaking Linux around.
that's another good idea to please retail... trickle charge/sync cable included, wall charger sold seperately!iammeiam said:I don't think we've seen a picture yet of a standard USB mini port on the PSP Go? Just the HDMI-looking thing?
They're more likely to bundle in a proprietary transfer cable and cut out a wall-charger, in my opinion.
WhiteAce said:what if all PSP Go! games are rental based and really low priced, but with a purchase option?
StrikerObi said:PS3 games aren't pirated because it's still too expensive and complicated to pirate blu-ray discs.
Onix said:PS3 games aren't pirated because no one's been able to hack it so far.
a friend of mine who was waiting FOREVER to get a PSP bought one from Dell at 3am this morning after i sent him a text about the deal.outunderthestars said:Congrats Sony! You just sold me a PSP
::goes to find a PSP-2000::
what if you are 94 year old woman?
StrikerObi said:Why? If they do then there will be a lot of home brewing leading up to mass piracy on another platform.
Guybrush Threepwood said:A bad thing about DD that I thought of:
Say goodbye to sales. Sure, they might have $5 off sales every once in awhile (good luck if nintendo goes DD only lol), but say goodbye to awesome B1G1 sales and bargain bin hunting and stuff like that. Oh, and no more second-hand selling or rentals. You'll have to buy all your games at full price.
This isn't a problem on Steam, but I doubt any of the Big 3 will figure it out.
Guybrush Threepwood said:A bad thing about DD that I thought of:
Say goodbye to sales. Sure, they might have $5 off sales every once in awhile (good luck if nintendo goes DD only lol), but say goodbye to awesome B1G1 sales. Oh, and no more second-hand selling or rentals. You'll have to buy all your games at full price.
This isn't a problem on Steam, but I doubt any of the Big 3 will figure it out.
Guybrush Threepwood said:A bad thing about DD that I thought of:
Say goodbye to sales. Sure, they might have $5 off sales every once in awhile (good luck if nintendo goes DD only lol), but say goodbye to awesome B1G1 sales and bargain bin hunting and stuff like that. Oh, and no more second-hand selling or rentals. You'll have to buy all your games at full price.
This isn't a problem on Steam, but I doubt any of the Big 3 will figure it out.
StrikerObi said:In other words, too complicated.
With or without an alternative OS, it would still be easy to pirate PSP games, so people would still do it.
Blu_LED said:Are you guys expecting $19.99 for all the downloadable games, or will they still charge $39.99 even thought we lose the disc, case and manuel?
Blu_LED said:Are you guys expecting $19.99 for all the downloadable games, or will they still charge $39.99 even thought we lose the disc, case and manuel?
It's been implied that there is a work around solution...maybe a means to "register" your game to a PSN account...TGO said:The whole no umd thing is off putting, I've got PSP games, I can get great deals on PSP games too....but I can't play them on PSP Go, it's stupid
unless Sony release a UMD to PSP Go accessory it's kinda dumb
of course they'll still charge $39.99Blu_LED said:Are you guys expecting $19.99 for all the downloadable games, or will they still charge $39.99 even thought we lose the disc, case and manuel?
brokenFUN said:I'm going to use the PS3 as an example here. On the PS3 your able to install a Linux Distro. From what I can understand is that there is no piracy on the PS3 because the people who actually have the know how to hack the device have no real motivation because they can already can create and build there own packages and apps within the hardware environment.
go look at the store today.Blu_LED said:Are you guys expecting $19.99 for all the downloadable games, or will they still charge $39.99 even thought we lose the disc, case and manuel?
Blu_LED said:Are you guys expecting $19.99 for all the downloadable games, or will they still charge $39.99 even thought we lose the disc, case and manuel?
Terrible, terrible, terrible pricing model on the store now. I hope they re-work the whole thing.Grayman said:go look at the store today.
LCfiner said:I'm expecting between 5 to 20 for most titles (5 for the small puzzlers and whatnot)
stuff like God of War, MGS or GT will be 30 or more.
LCfiner said:It was a mistake because there's not enough people like you to buy those "deeper" games. you're in the minority. to say that you like the PSP is fine. But you need to recognize the market if you're going to comment about "mistakes".
Sony misjudged the market. they fucked up. They made a mistake.
The DS had instant load times, smaller games and more casual experiences and has been a huge success.
LCfiner said:The PSP always felt like it was a bigger ordeal to get started due to load times and the specs led devs to produce console ports to games that didn't feel as good as their big brother counterparts and weren't always friendly for playing on the road.
Of course. DD don't have to be cheaper than tangible media because now you're paying for the convenience of having media on your portable devices along with the convenience of getting it any time you like versus having to drive somewhere or order it.The Faceless Master said:of course they'll still charge $39.99
Basically any phone that hasn't had tethering removed by the carrier can sync nowadays. If it weren't for my tethered connection, i wouldn't have one.The Faceless Master said:yeah WinMophones with BT can sync and tether their internet connection via BT as well.
Do PSP games have serial numbers? i didn't think they did, but it's been ages since i've owned one. i don't see this happening though, because it would be too easy to buy games cheaply on UMD, register them to download them, then sell the UMD and screw the next person out of a download.Talon- said:It's been implied that there is a work around solution...maybe a means to "register" your game to a PSN account...
LCfiner said:Eh, there have been sales for games on PSN and XBLA. precedence already exists.
and, depending how much freedom Sony gives publishers for pricing on the new PSP store, there could still be lots of 3rd party sales to increase demand. that tactic gets used on the iPhone App Store (although I don't expect the super low prices of the app store to translate to the PSP store)