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[LUXURY]

I think it needs tweaking but people making out as if it's completely dominating every single match automatically need to tone it down abit. I have no problem killing Rose when I play, then again I play as the scientest mostly on Zombies.

They're killing me from literally across the world. I've only been able to kill them if they are not directly trying to get me. I played multiplayer three times and got zombie each time, isn't it supposed to switch? I'm assuming people are quickly switching before I even get the chance to change sides because the same people were the Rose each time.

Besides that I don't really see any other problem with the game. It's INSANELY fun. I love all the new stages and characters for the most part. Did a CRAAAAAAAZY! Garden Ops with my friend last night and we made it first try with some randoms. One thing I wish it did was carry over customization items buuuuut it's no big deal really. I can't wait to get home and play some more.

 

[backflip10019]

I can't really put my finger on it, but I feel like this game is missing a lot of the stellar audio from the first.

Other than that though, it's fantastic.

 

[Stormwatch]

I can't really put my finger on it, but I feel like this game is missing a lot of the stellar audio from the first.

Other than that though, it's fantastic.

Yeah, I wish the music played more often. It seems to only kick in for the last couple kills of a match. I guess they were going for a bit more ambience.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

The audio mixing in this isn't as well done as the first

A lot of the times, you can even hear the vanquish sounds.

 

[vypek]

Yeah, I've noticed that I don't always hear the vanquish sound either. I also played 3 games yesterday but was a plant each time for some reason. And the other "complaint" is that I wish I could tone down the visual effect when I level up.

 

[Lucifon]

I've had no problem hearing the vanquish sound, is it possible this might be a bug affecting some? Is it that it's not playing at all or just that there's so much going on it drowns out the sound?

 

[rudds]

I cleared most of the bounty board quests last night, and accepted most of the remaining ones, with the timer saying it would be refreshed at midnight PST. Woke up and checked just now and... no new quests? Just the single one I didn't have room for last night. The hell? What did it refresh then?

 

[backflip10019]

I've had no problem hearing the vanquish sound, is it possible this might be a bug affecting some? Is it that it's not playing at all or just that there's so much going on it drowns out the sound?

It just sometimes doesn't play at all, especially if you get a few kills in a row. Probably due to so much happening on screen at once (at least that's my guess).

 

[DrGonzo615]

So when rose is in her "ghost" form, where exactly do you need to be shooting her for her to take damage? I was aiming at the head but didnt see any numbers popping up (although I might have just missed them in the madness).

Really happy to see that the game runs much smoother than the beta and holds up pretty well in the big fire fights with tons of stuff happening at once.

 

[backflip10019]

So when rose is in her "ghost" form, where exactly do you need to be shooting her for her to take damage? I was aiming at the head but didnt see any numbers popping up (although I might have just missed them in the madness).

Really happy to see that the game runs much smoother than the beta and holds up pretty well in the big fire fights with tons of stuff happening at once.

She's invulnerable in that state, so you can't hurt her. That's really the whole point of the ability.

 

[DrGonzo615]

She's invulnerable in that state, so you can't hurt her. That's really the whole point of the ability.

Well thats BS.

 

[PushingButtons]

Quickly logged in this morning before work to get my exp pin. I wasn't sure I would be able to play later today so I wanted to get that sign in. Ended up playing and made myself late to work =p

Spoiler

Ended up losing to a plant team of 6 roses

 

[Emerson]

Seems like there's nobody playing this on PC. Games last night were only half full and this morning I can't find a match with a single other person in it.

 

[Manatox]

Seems like there's nobody playing this on PC. Games last night were only half full and this morning I can't find a match with a single other person in it.

I was thinking on getting it on PC, but if it's true, then i will have to wait until a huge discount hits

Don't wanna play it on an empty server

 

[Caayn]

Kamikaze run with capt. Corn to the enemy teleporter to throw a Bigger, Better Butter on it is amazing.

They're killing me from literally across the world. I've only been able to kill them if they are not directly trying to get me. I played multiplayer three times and got zombie each time, isn't it supposed to switch? I'm assuming people are quickly switching before I even get the chance to change sides because the same people were the Rose each time.

I think it switches after two rounds. So that you'll have: Attack as a Zombie, Defend as a Zombie, Defend as a Plant, Attack as a Plant.

That's how I think it works based on my short amount of time spent in the multiplayer

 

[KatamariOnTheRocks]

Super Brainz seems completely fine to me. I also don't find Rose to be that bad to be honest, I've not seen her overplayed in my matches at all. I think she's just easy to play because of the homing shots. Maybe reduce the homing lock on range?

I meant that all they have to do to fix the metagame is revert to how things were in the beta except for Corn and Super brain since those were the 2 main classes that needed a buff back then. Every other class was properly balanced including Rose and part of the balancing that we aren't able to see at the moment is how much of an impact being fast enough to dodge attacks had back when the game was in beta form. That played largely into the way that the moment to moment game play happens.

I'll repost what I said in an earlier comment since it explains how movement speed factored into the meta -

Objective based game modes truly require efficient teamwork to work together and make/block a push.

That being said, it's taking waaay longer than it did in the beta to make a successful push now that they nerfed the movement speed of so many classes.

The level design of the entire game was built around the assumption that players would be moving faster than they currently are thanks to the movement speed nerfs.

Traversing maps and attacking/defending points was a lot easier when you could get from place to place fast enough to turn the tide.

That factors into balancing issues as part of the previous balancing included sufficient speed for many classes including certain zombie classes to be able to out maneuver Rose's abilities.

I think the problem is they nuked the imp and his impkata move, you used to be able to counter a rose by getting in there dropping a stasis and kataing them to death, now the shit won't even do half the damage for a kill so a few roses together wreck everyone.

That definately factors into the balancing issues. All classes had proper balancing and counter classes before they ruined the metagame with unnecessary changes but people complained in beta that Rose was too weak and Imp was OP so now we have our current situation. If people just played the game the right way back then we wouldn't have these terrible metagame conditions.

Rose is absolutely ruining the balance of the multiplayer, its crazy this got past any sort of internal play test.

Rose was not as OP as it is at the moment when they were play testing. They came to the correct conclusion the first time they balanced the game and then screwed it up by listening to incorrect feedback.

 

[Emerson]

I was thinking on getting it on PC, but if it's true, then i will have to wait until a huge discount hits

Don't wanna play it on an empty server

Yeah I don't know. Maybe it's just me. But I've queued into five straight games with zero players. I know it's a weekday morning, but it's a bit disconcerting that there's literally nobody playing the day after it came out.

Edit: and after all that I queue into a full match. Maybe the matchmaking is just bad.

 

[deejay]

Well, I'm still waiting for the EU release, which is less than a day away. That might also cause the empty servers ;p

 

[TheOohChild]

Seems like there's nobody playing this on PC. Games last night were only half full and this morning I can't find a match with a single other person in it.

This is how it was during the early EA Access period, so I bought on PS4. Sucks matches still aren't filling up. GW1 had a pretty good player population on PC.

 

[MrBlonde]

Is it just me or did the soldier zombie get a nerf? I used to be really good at the first one, always top 2 on my team but struggling a little with this one. I did really well with the Soldier and Football guy for zombies but in this one they don't feel the same and I cant find a zombie I like yet.

I seem to do better with plants.....Fun game though, love it just seems like it will take some getting used to compared to the first one.

 

[MrBlonde]

Quickly logged in this morning before work to get my exp pin. I wasn't sure I would be able to play later today so I wanted to get that sign in. Ended up playing and made myself late to work =p

Spoiler

Ended up losing to a plant team of 6 roses

I asked this earlier with no answer, as long as you log into your home hub once a day even if you don't do a match you keep your XP multiplier?

 

[pitchfork]

Everyone on my friends list is either early access or got their copies early so i'm gonna feel late to the party when my digital copy unlocks tonight (UK)

Looking forward to getting stuck in though, absolutely adored the first one!

 

[PushingButtons]

I asked this earlier with no answer, as long as you log into your home hub once a day even if you don't do a match you keep your XP multiplier?

As far as I know, yes, that's correct. As long as you log in you keep the multiplier.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

She's invulnerable in that state, so you can't hurt her. That's really the whole point of the ability.

Invulnerable? I've been killed plenty in that state. I've sometimes used it as a last resort if I'm about to die and it doesn't always help.

Also, I just realised the quests don't update daily. Seems to be every two days. Booo . I was looking forward to more quest hunting today.

 

[Manatox]

This is how it was during the early EA Access period, so I bought on PS4. Sucks matches still aren't filling up. GW1 had a pretty good player population on PC.

I guess i will wait for a few days to see how it fares on PC. Might pick it up if the population grows.

 

[brickwalker0]

Is it just me or did the soldier zombie get a nerf? I used to be really good at the first one, always top 2 on my team but struggling a little with this one. I did really well with the Soldier and Football guy for zombies but in this one they don't feel the same and I cant find a zombie I like yet.

I seem to do better with plants.....Fun game though, love it just seems like it will take some getting used to compared to the first one.

they nerfed the strongest classes from the first game then proceeded to ensure the new classes were insanely strong.

i recommend trying the pirate zombie, hes very strong and a lot of fun. feels like a mix between soldier and engineer.

 

[jiggles]

This is how it was during the early EA Access period, so I bought on PS4. Sucks matches still aren't filling up. GW1 had a pretty good player population on PC.

Is it faring better on PS4 then? I loved the first one on PS4, but it never seemed like there were more than 2 or 3 games running at any one time, across all modes.

I'd be down for picking up this if it has an active player base.

 

[Gtagentleman]

Seems like there's nobody playing this on PC. Games last night were only half full and this morning I can't find a match with a single other person in it.

Did you try changing the matchmaking region?

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Is it faring better on PS4 then? I loved the first one on PS4, but it never seemed like there were more than 2 or 3 games running at any one time, across all modes.

PS4 version was heavily populated for the first one. I guess it depends on what region you're from.

I'm on PC now but frankly haven't even touched multiplayer yet due to the insane amount of stuff available for single player.

 

[DrGonzo615]

Yeah it seems like the overwhelming majority of people are playing the new classes but I wonder if this will even out over time once the novelty wears off.

Strangely enough out of the few matches I played last night, I noticed the Chomper was by far the most popular character from the original bunch. After playing the beta I thought that nobody would be using this guy anymore.

 

[TheOohChild]

Is it faring better on PS4 then? I loved the first one on PS4, but it never seemed like there were more than 2 or 3 games running at any one time, across all modes.

I'd be down for picking up this if it has an active player base.

I played Turf Takeover for about two hours last night, and all games were fully populated.

 

[jiggles]

I played Turf Takeover for about two hours last night, and all games were fully populated.

Hmmm. That sounds encouraging, but the console version would cost me literally double what the PC version would.

Ugh. What do.

 

[LUXURY]

Kamikaze run with capt. Corn to the enemy teleporter to throw a Bigger, Better Butter on it is amazing.
I think it switches after two rounds. So that you'll have: Attack as a Zombie, Defend as a Zombie, Defend as a Plant, Attack as a Plant.

That's how I think it works based on my short amount of time spent in the multiplayer

Okay that makes sense. Thank you.

 

[Lucifon]

Seems like there's nobody playing this on PC. Games last night were only half full and this morning I can't find a match with a single other person in it.

That sucks Europe matchmaking for the XB1 version has been great. First day of EA Access only TDM was populated, but I have no issues getting into any modes since a day or so after that!

Does anyone know how you unlock new abilities yet? As in actual ability variations, not class skins, or perks, but new abilities? I assume it's not just for promotional bonus abilities and there are actually unlockable ones in the game...?

 

[KdylanR92]

I've never felt more like an asshole than going on Welcome Mat at level 35 with a double prestiged Rose and basically just pub stombing...hand hanging in shame

 

[nel e nel]

Game has been out since Thursday. And they made beta changes in little over a week if I remember correctly.

Last time I checked, February 23rd was yesterday.

 

[DrGonzo615]

I've never felt more like an asshole than going on Welcome Mat at level 35 with a double prestiged Rose and basically just pub stombing...hand hanging in shame

Then why do it?

Game has been out since Thursday. And they made beta changes in little over a week if I remember correctly.

I could be mistaken but I dont think that beta changes have to go through the same approval process that full release games do. I dont expect an actual balance patch to address Rose for at least a few weeks.

 

[Mossybrew]

Everything about this game is just overflowing with character and humor. Playing with my son last night and we unlocked the "SHRImp" Imp variant, of course we're eager to check him out - we call down his robot and this bigass shrimpbot drops from the sky and we just bust out laughing. The game is just so fun.

 

[minx]

Last time I checked, February 23rd was yesterday.

EA access began on Thursday where the full game was available to play. It was apparent within the first couple matches that Rose was OP. How Popcap didn't notice is a little bizarre. They will fix it, just sooner hopefully rather than later.

I also think they nerfed the imp too much.

With how many classes they have the game is very well balanced besides Rose.

 

[vainglorious]

EA access began on Thursday where the full game was available to play. It was apparent within the first couple matches that Rose was OP. How Popcap didn't notice is a little bizarre. They will fix it, just sooner hopefully rather than later.

I also think they nerfed the imp too much.

With how many classes they have the game is very well balanced besides Rose.

Yeah the Imp is completely useless outside of his Mech. I feel like whenever I go up against a plant and both of us have full health but I'm still landing hits, if I die the match up pop-up is always like "Plant has 90% health remaining" and it just makes me go "What, HOW"

 

[Exile20]

Yeah the Imp is completely useless outside of his Mech. I feel like whenever I go up against a plant and both of us have full health but I'm still landing hits, if I die the match up pop-up is always like "Plant has 90% health remaining" and it just makes me go "What, HOW"

This happened to me a few times. I was extremely surprised. I landed all my hits and yet i only damaged them 10%?

 

[Gtagentleman]

I think Im done with multiplayer until they fix the Rose, not having any fun in the current state of the game.

 

[Korosenai]

Two questions about rose

1. What are the best upgrades to use on her? It seems like faster reload speed is a must.

2. What is the purpose of her second ability and when should I be using it?

 

[LtOrange]

I could be mistaken but I dont think that beta changes have to go through the same approval process that full release games do. I dont expect an actual balance patch to address Rose for at least a few weeks.

I really hope you are wrong. The broken multiplayer could have a really negative impact on the community if they let it go on for much longer.

 

[Lucifon]

I really hope you are wrong. The broken multiplayer could have a really negative impact on the community if they let it go on for much longer.

It's really not broken... I've won plenty of matches against plenty of rose players and had plenty of kills on them. Yes it might need some balancing tweaks but it's still great fun and perfectly viable to play other strategies.

 

[gameoverbro]

I unlocked the park ranger I believe and rose isn't a problem for me anymore.

 

[DrGonzo615]

I unlocked the park ranger I believe and rose isn't a problem for me anymore.

Which class gets the Park Ranger variant? What makes it effective against rose?

 

[SiDCrAzY]

It's a variant of the Foot Soldier, haven't tried him myself yet.

 

[JonnyKong]

Lil Drake is who you need with his fire bullets

This happened to me a few times. I was extremely surprised. I landed all my hits and yet i only damaged them 10%?

 

[Audioboxer]

Eeeeek! My copy shipped today, crossing fingers for tomorrow. Add me on PSN if you'll be playing (I'm in UK) - Audioboxer

I'm not going back to the 1st game (platinumed, played a ton of hours) so whatever bonuses I get are what I get.