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Quantum Break PC performance thread
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I find the IQ even with upscaling off somewhat disappointing. Even on 1440p I don't get a crystal clear image like I used to from other games even when they offer TAA making the image slightly blurry.
This. It looks better but it still looks blurry.
Since it didn't get like I was expecting Upscaling off to look like, I rather decided to have it on. The perf impact was not worth it.
I've seen most nVidia users usually talk how settings other than shadows seem to take a higher hit (like MGSV TPP). From what I understand, shadows only affects shadow resolution, and how shadow lines appear.
I don't know if there are any other AMD users here to help test.
Don't nvidia gpus tend to have more rops(or at least they're more efficient)?
That could reduce the hit from shadows, since they tend to be strongly rop bound.
icecold1983
Member
nvidia has more rops but amds rops are much better
Remedy did: https://imgur.com/a/pPwbl
http://techreport.com/review/30328/amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-card-reviewed/5
That's not what this article indicates. The 960 has a lower theoretical pixel fill rate than the 480, yet scores higher anyway... Seems like Nvidia is much better in this area.
icecold1983
Member
all thats testing is memory efficiency which is better on nvidia due to better compression and TBDR
amd runs more pixel formats at full speed and performance doesnt bottom out when blending is used
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/953-6/performances-theoriques-pixels.html
dr_rus
Member
This only leads to them being on the same level as NV due to having less ROPs in general though. Saying that this is "better" is quite a stretch as well as there's basically no issue in making any format "full speed", it's mostly a function of available bandwidth and typical usage scenario.
Ahh you have GSYNC. Explains it. 120, 144Hz makes the stuttering very subtle, but at 60Hz it's horrible. I get drops to about 48 at some points so that's why I was sceptical.
Still shots are not representative, upscaling is much more visible in motion, for example on foliage. It looks much worse in motion.
That's unfortunately only true regarding Qunatum Break since even with non-upscaled 1080p you don't have a crisp image like in other games (film grain already switched off, of course). And I for christ's sake don't know why that is.
When you stop moving the camera the game resolves almost a native like image, so still comparisons are pointless - I have no idea why was remedy even doing them, as they are simply misleading.
From xbox version impressions: "image quality appears sharper and noticeably cleaner in more static scenes, where a pixel count suggests something closer to a 900p presentation"
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-quantum-break-tech-analysis said:
From xbox version impressions: "image quality appears sharper and noticeably cleaner in more static scenes, where a pixel count suggests something closer to a 900p presentation"
Did you try turning off anti-aliasing?
Yep, it's slightly better but only noticeable on screenshots. I guess I'll just leave the upscaling on for the performance. IQ is bad no matter what settings I use.
NeoRaider
Member
I asked that and am currently being ignored by Thomas Puha:
https://twitter.com/SimplexPL/status/783057601793757184
https://twitter.com/SimplexPL/status/783057601793757184
NeoRaider
Member
Maybe on RX480.
Locuza
Member
It does run (way) worse if you couple the GPUs with weaker CPUs and even with an 6700K the frametimes are better under DX12 for Radeons:
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=en&tl=de&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-09%2Fquantum-break-steam-benchmark%2F3%2F%23abschnitt_benchmarks_auf_dem_amd_fx8370&edit-text=
One would wish DX11 for UWP (Nvidia) and DX12 for Steam (AMD).
Sword Of Doom
Member
Was so close to buying this tonight. Haven't read the entire thread but it feels kind of risky
That's very strange
That's very strange
Beer Monkey
Member
Amazon emailed me with a new delivery estimate of Monday for physical CE, an eight day bump, so that's cool.
All I'm hoping for is better than X1. Forza Horizon 3 does not give me an improvement, so it could be worse.
All I'm hoping for is better than X1. Forza Horizon 3 does not give me an improvement, so it could be worse.
I did not know that it runs worse. Digital Foundry reported it works the same.
Both Windows Store and Steam versions should offer same features and I am wondering why is that not the case. What is preventing Remedy from adding DX12 support to Steam version and DX11 support to UWP version?
So, with the GeForce recommended settings (mostly high and ultra, upscalling on) I'm getting consistent over 60fps with some dips into 55fps with a 980Ti. Honestly, I was expecting much worse performance reading the comments. What is the most distracting, apart from the softness and upscalling & temporal artifacts of course, is that the game stutters whenever there's a cutscene or other scripted event, which are fairly common. Any fix for this?
About the looks of the game. The lighting is impressive, as well as the overall scene complexity, too bad is all muted due the bad IQ of the upscalling algorithm the game uses. Can't tell if the textures are good due all the blur. Is this similar what the PS4 Pro gonna do?
About the looks of the game. The lighting is impressive, as well as the overall scene complexity, too bad is all muted due the bad IQ of the upscalling algorithm the game uses. Can't tell if the textures are good due all the blur. Is this similar what the PS4 Pro gonna do?
I think PS4 Pro upscaling works differently, more like R6: Siege (checkerboard).
You are effectively playing in 720p on a 980Ti. Disable upscaling to achieve native 1080p and you'll understand the complaints.
Oh, I'm playing at 1440p. That's closer to native 1080p, right?
icecold1983
Member
Are you on steam version? Maxwell performance is 30 to 40% faster over the windows store version which is where the complaints were
irriducibile87
Member
I was interested in buying this but is this a good PC port and which version is better ?
Steam or Windows Store ?
This is my PC:
i7 4770
GTX1080
32GB RAM
Steam or Windows Store ?
This is my PC:
i7 4770
GTX1080
32GB RAM
Locuza
Member
I only know the video comparison from DF and they used only a single CPU and four different GPUs, the RX 480, 390(X?) and the 970 + GTX 1060.
So it doesn't showed the whole story.
And it's also a complete mystery to me why Remedy decided to make the different APIs store exclusive, I mean the bulk part of the work is done, writing a new rendering path, the remaining work should be relatively small.
As an Nvidia user don't even think about the UWP/DX12-Version:
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-09%2Fquantum-break-steam-benchmark%2F2%2F
Over 30% more performance are possible with the GTX 1080 running under DX11 (Steam-Version).
Also you could try out reshade/sweetFX to sharpen the image like in these examples:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/186265
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/186264
But these tools don't work under UWP-Apps at all, since UWP is hiding the data-files.
4x MSAA and temporal anti aliasing, but those always differ to some degree.
God damned Windows Store!!!! First time I've ever had issues. Seriously. When the preload went live I clicked download and i remember it downloading something small. Not the full game. I just figured it was a temp file and would eventually download the rest in a few days. Just realized there's no sign of Gears on my PC. Everytime I try and download it says "Something happened, try again!"
Opps wrong thread.
Opps wrong thread.
irriducibile87
Member
Thank you very much for the help, I'll buy the steam version then !
matrix-cat
Member
This game is just a muddy, stuttery mess for me, no matter the settings. 60FPS simply isn't an option at 1440p with upscaling off, and with upscaling on it's just ugly. There's a smeary motion blur effect that can't be turned off, and every time it tries to do one of those 'seamless' cutscene to gameplay transitions it stutters hard for like five seconds. It's unplayable during that stuttering, but it still accepts input from my controller so when it starts working again I end up with my camera pointing in a totally different direction. Last night it hard-locked my PC during one of those cutscene -> gameplay stutters.
I also have to confirm that I want to keep watching the TV show cutscenes like five or six times per episode because I keep getting the 'UNABLE TO STREAM' warning. I actually don't even want to watch them because they're so dull and all the characters are humourless drones, but as a Remedy fan from way back I at least want to give the game the benefit of the doubt.
I also have to confirm that I want to keep watching the TV show cutscenes like five or six times per episode because I keep getting the 'UNABLE TO STREAM' warning. I actually don't even want to watch them because they're so dull and all the characters are humourless drones, but as a Remedy fan from way back I at least want to give the game the benefit of the doubt.