IcyRhythms
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Doesn't sound like it lol
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Quantum Break PC performance thread
- Thread starter GroinShooter
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Doesn't sound like it lol
Collateral22
Member
Fuck sake lol. Thought it would be fixed by now.
Peterthumpa
Member
Boy, this game is just beautiful downsampled from 4k. That frame pacing though...ugh.
Finally got to try it.
All gameplay, no cutscenes.
Is it playable at that resolution? What hardware?
If you consider 20fps and stuttering playable...haha
OC i7 920/980Ti Classified/12GB Ram
I beat Act 2 on Hard without dying, lol. (Note:I've put over 25 hours into the X1 version)
The game is crazy good looking, and everything...I mean EVERYTHING reacts/reflects/bounces light in the environments. Looks insane.
I hope they patch this so I can pull a locked framerate @ some level of downsample.
Chobel
Member
Shandy post is actually real time video footage of QB running at 4K.
We are still waiting for a patch. Probably it has to get "certified".
QuantumSquid
Member
Isn't what the game looks like at 4K roughly equivalent to what it should look like at 1080p if this game had had a proper PC port and it didn't use an upscaling solution designed for a console?
No it would be 1440p in this case.
holygeesus
Banned
I'd think it would be longer than people might think. I hear rumours that it will turn up sometime in May to correlate with Microsoft removing some of the limitations of the UWP experience.
Let's hope your predictions are wrong, and we get it earlier. It would suck to have to wait so long for the patch. I got the game on release (cheap PC code from a friend who preordered on Xbox) but I am not touching the game until the frame pacing issues are fixed.
You are both wrong, I think. According to my calculations, the game is upscaled from 1080p at 2880x1620 resolution.
Remedy themselves said that the "source" resolution is 2/3 of the final resolution. So you need to multiply the "source" resolution by 1.5 to get the final resolution.
1280*1.5=1920
720*1.5=1080
1920*1.5=2880
1080*1.5=1620
You are both wrong, I think. According to my calculations, the game is upscaled from 1080p at 2880x1620 resolution.
Remedy themselves said that the "source" resolution is 2/3 of the final resolution. So you need to multiply the "source" resolution by 1.5 to get the final resolution.
1280*1.5=1920
720*1.5=1080
1920*1.5=2880
1080*1.5=1620
Boy, this game is just beautiful downsampled from 4k. That frame pacing though...ugh.
Finally got to try it.
All gameplay, no cutscenes.
My god that looks good. Shame they didn't take the time needed for a smooth release.
That's dumb if true. UWP currently doesn't support SLI or crossfire, but that has nothing to do with frame pacing issues or upscaling solution.
or the lack of option to quit from menu
They should release a patch ASAP, and address any UWP changes when the time comes
sertopico
Member
Ok, but if you select 4K in the video settings you get 2560x1440:
3840/1,5=2560
2160/1,5=1440
So, the second statement is right.
Hmmm, I may move down to that to play the game this weekend some. I went straight to 4k as I wasn't sure what the scale was. I just wish the patch would hurry up. This is one of the best looking games on PC (or anything lighting wise) to date, but it would be nice to play it where you can appreciate it.
You can also try setting 1440p, this way the base resolution will be 1706x960, which is not that far from 1080p.
Right, I misunderstood. I thought he meant that by setting 1440p res ingame you will get upscale from 1080p.
Right, I misunderstood. I thought he meant that by setting 1440p res ingame you will get upscale from 1080p.
holygeesus
Banned
OK, I have discovered a tactic to massively improve performance on my system, and I can't for the life of me figure out why, but I thought I'd share in case it helps anyone else, but hey YMMV
So, load your game up - go into video settings and turn off 'Full Screen Mode' - obviously you then start playing in a window, but I noticed it was a hell of a lot more smoother for me.
I then turned back on 'Full Screen Mode' and the smoothness remained! No more choppy cut-scenes and the FMV live-action stuff doesn't chug any more. How bizarre!
It's not perfect but it is so, so much more playable now.
So, load your game up - go into video settings and turn off 'Full Screen Mode' - obviously you then start playing in a window, but I noticed it was a hell of a lot more smoother for me.
I then turned back on 'Full Screen Mode' and the smoothness remained! No more choppy cut-scenes and the FMV live-action stuff doesn't chug any more. How bizarre!
It's not perfect but it is so, so much more playable now.
I'll try this out when I get home. Anything to get better performance lol.
GroinShooter
Member
Probably sometime next month together with the new UWP update.
They might even send pre-order codes for the digital version by next month.
brotkasten
Member
Probably because reverting back to fullscreen puts the game on 1280x720.
Fullscreen vs windowed has no impact on the resolution QB displays at.
brotkasten
Member
It did for me. Changing to "Windowed" put the game into a small window, reverting back to fullscreen set the resolution to 1280x720.
Weird, because even when you set 1080p in the menu the game renders at 720p then reconstructs a 1080p image.
RamaTheVoice
Member
That's so weird, when reverting back from windowed to fullscreen on my PC the game sets its resolution to 1680×1050, even though I have a 16:9 monitor...
Frozone
Member
Yeap, no game can match it right now. And from the looks of future games, doesn't look like they will match it either.
exmachina64
Banned
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I respectfully disagree. It's certainly a looker, one of the best out there, in fact. But unmatched (and to remain unmatched)? No way.
Frozone
Member
Well, I'm not saying remain unmatched indefinitely. It's just that from what I've seen for the rest of 2016 doesn't seem to include those "ingredients" that put this game graphically above the rest. The physically plausible lighting/GI/occlusion seems to be the hallmark of this game and gives it the edge other games are lacking.
For example in this image:
Everything down to the smallest objects have self-occlusion and shadowing even when not directly lit. It makes the game almost look ray-traced. Even the cameras on the ceiling and the chairs next to the desk or the drawer handles all look "planted" as they should as opposed to have a hard edge with no shadowing making the objects appear "pasted" in space somewhere. No other game captures this occlusion so well.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Well, I'm not saying remain unmatched indefinitely. It's just that from what I've seen for the rest of 2016 doesn't seem to include those "ingredients" that put this game graphically above the rest. The physically plausible lighting/GI/occlusion seems to be the hallmark of this game and gives it the edge other games are lacking.
For example in this image:
Everything down to the smallest objects have self-occlusion and shadowing even when not directly lit. It makes the game almost look ray-traced. Even the cameras on the ceiling and the chairs next to the desk or the drawer handles all look "planted" as they should as opposed to have a hard edge with no shadowing making the objects appear "pasted" in space somewhere. No other game captures this occlusion so well.
Yes, it does a lot of things well, but it also falters in crucial places, like IQ. Even some of the textures are awfully flat when viewed up close, which can make for a, sometimes, jarring experience.
Not trying to take anything from it, but to me, calling it unmatched (and saying it will remain so) is far-fetched. There are other games soon to release that are above it. No need to crap on this topic by mentioning anything specific, however. That's just how I see it.
holygeesus
Banned
Nah it's definitely 1080p. I figured out in the end it seems to be a mouse v controller thing. If I disable my controller, the frame rate is insane - turn the controller back on, it shits the bed again. I have no idea why. I just wish I could play these games with a mouse! Either way it's uninstalled now as I completed it finally yesterday. Fun game but an utter flustercluck on PC.
Frozone
Member
I would love to know which games actually. Because all the ones I've seen won't have this kind of lighting. Also, yea, we can find low res textures in just about every game if you move the camera close enough.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Nah, it's best to keep it about Quantum (this is a performance thread, after all). Let's just say that I don't agree with your assessment and leave it there.
After the release, when the justified shitstorm started.
Looks like patch will arrive 1st/week of may:
https://twitter.com/RiotRMD/status/724503593378824192
https://twitter.com/remedygames/status/724503908048068608
https://twitter.com/RiotRMD/status/724503593378824192
https://twitter.com/remedygames/status/724503908048068608
Bornstellar
Member
Game looks gorgeous. Guess I'll do a third play through on PC (switching from Xbox) when the patch hits.
johnnydrama
Banned
I pre-ordered the game on Xbox and I still haven't gotten my PC code. Time to contact MS?
brotkasten
Member
Shame that it took so long. I just finished Act 4 yesterday. But I might do a second run, so hopefully I can still take advantage of the patch.
I am waiting as well for my second run on PC.
sertopico
Member
Finally, it took almost one month but I think it's not that much, considering the amount of technical issues the game has. Now I am just curious to know what has been fixed.
It also did that for me. I doubt anyone can play like that.
icecold1983
Member
im not expecting much to be fixed other than the refresh rate issue
tioslash
Member
All I ask for, really. I sure hope it´s fixed as the frame pacing in this game is beyond terrible right now.
I booted this up for the first time today 980ti 16gb i56600k. I was waiting for the patch but after finishing dark souls I just needed something to play. I haven't really had a bad time with frame rate (hour in and the first minute or so was the only time I really noticed it being jerky) but man on man even at the highest resolution the blurry background just sucks. Everything is beautiful when up close but sometimes the back is just awful.
That said when the whole screen is doing the time ripple and shit is going on it is a ton of fun.
That said when the whole screen is doing the time ripple and shit is going on it is a ton of fun.
frontieruk
Member
What about the quit button?
icecold1983
Member
i meant more of the major technical issues. i dont expect actual framerates to improve, and id even be surprised if framepacing improves
I've yet to see any game that has you, the environment, and the lighting affect nearly every object in a scene on the level that QB does.
A random glass on a table, a doorknob in a back room, or the top of a table in a lab.
Every single one of the above from the floor to the ceiling reacts to you, the NPCs, the lighting. You can see your face, your hands, your gun, effects, reflecting in a cup on a table...a glossy table-top reflects light and objects on it...a metal table will reflect your arm (distorting it with the grain) as it passes near it.
I've never seen anything like it in anything that is coming or that I've played in the past.
Show me (even a video) of another game doing that. I'd agree with the other guy...there's a reason they had to build this game like they did for the X1. I don't think the technical side of it has been really explored like it needs to be.
I was watching X-Files last night and noticed that the way the people in an elevator appear on the metal of the doors and sides matched the way entering an elevator in QB looks.
tioslash
Member
Well, but if actual framerates and more importantly, frame pacing does not improve with this patch, what other major technical issues do you mean?
I was under the impression that poor performance even on capable hardware and terrible frame pacing were the biggest issues on the PC version atm.