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Quantum Break PC performance thread
- Thread starter GroinShooter
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cyen
Member
It seems so, and the reconstruction is still in place since there is still alot of "blur" when moving the characters.
nextgeneration
Member
I'd wait, since it appears like Nvidia cards currently struggle with DX 12. I'm guessing this will be corrected with Pascal.
cyen
Member
Only two months or less until Pascal\Polaris arrives, better wait.
Starfield
Member
Allright.
Im just hoping thar it will be compatible with my motherboard (msi z87 g45)
because that's exactly what it is. To get stable 30 fps at 1440p I had to turn down 2 settings to high instead of ultra. Can't remember off the top of my head but it sure pissed me off. Struggling to get 30 fps on top of the line pc is dumb no matter how you slice it.
nextgeneration
Member
Why wouldn't it be compatible? I see no reason why it wouldn't.
This is sort of straying off topic, so I'll just make the comment that with gsync at 1440p using a 980ti, using medium settings, Quantum Break is extremely smooth for me, with the exception of a possible gsync bug.
icecold1983
Member
we we sure upscaling is turning off temporal reconstruction?
cyen
Member
I think it´s still happening, the image is miles better but i can still see the softness introduced by temporal reconstruction, and there is a image "drag" when moving the character.
icecold1983
Member
cyen
Member
still weird artifacting
Yep, that´s it.
nextgeneration
Member
I'm using a gsync monitor and the game is very smooth now, aside from a possible gsync bug. However, if I disable gsync, game becomes very stuttery, even more so than before they patched it. I didn't see a vsync option in-game (unless I missed it) and enabling vsync from the nvcp didn't help, either.
RiotPelaaja
Remedy
It is: · Fixed frame timing not matching the refresh rate
Is the patch seriously 27gb?
Sorry I may be being petty but if that's the case I'm just going to delete this from my PC. I was at end of chapter 2 before i gave up (980ti) and while mildy enjoyable and interesting the ridiculously slow DL speeds from windows store this game just isn't worth it.
Sorry MS and more so remedy. I wanted to give this a go but you dropped the ball.
Too many other games to play end enjoy without these issues (for me anyway)
Sorry I may be being petty but if that's the case I'm just going to delete this from my PC. I was at end of chapter 2 before i gave up (980ti) and while mildy enjoyable and interesting the ridiculously slow DL speeds from windows store this game just isn't worth it.
Sorry MS and more so remedy. I wanted to give this a go but you dropped the ball.
Too many other games to play end enjoy without these issues (for me anyway)
nextgeneration
Member
Yeah, this game has been a total disaster. I couldn't even download the patch because I was out of space on my SSD. To get around this, I had to uninstall the game and then redownload it to get the patched version of the game! And after I did that, I couldn't even sync up to the cloud, so I lost my previous save. So, I just went ahead and started from scratch. So, yeah, what an absolute clusterfuck!
Not sure I'm following you, but gsync here works much like any other game. Just enable it in the nvcp, and when you boot up the game, gsync is enabled.
I do feel a bit petty for feeling this way due to patch size but it's just the end of a serious of fuck ups with this game in PC!
If I was really, really enjoying the game I might feel differently but despite some cool effects and mechanics i just wasn't feeling it.
Quite frankly id rather regain the 50gb on my ssd than lose another 27 just to play this.
nextgeneration
Member
I don't blame you one bit. Assuming I even end up still playing this game, if I ever do finish it, I'm deleting this game off my SSD. This game is a prime example of what not to do to try and convince a person to move to pc gaming. This game has been nothing but problem after problem.
GroinShooter
Member
EDIT:
Scrub this.
Scrub this.
There's so much wrong with this progress indicator.
Windows Store download is so fucked up lol
82 GB, I don't that much space in disk
nextgeneration
Member
Which makes it all the more baffling why you need 27 GB of free space in order to download the patch.
It's not the same patch obv, the reconstruction removal sure is the culprit for the size of this update
Yeah. Windows Store does not appear to yet support deltas. If they change a file, the whole file has to resync.
Microsoft has good intentions with PC gaming, but they can't pull off the software side. Which is amusing because.. They're a software company.
Edit: I don't believe reconstruction is removed.
Tizoc
Member
This is fucking hilarious. Are they actively _trying_ to kill of their UWP platform right on the start or?..
That's because from what I was able to catch patching in UWP is done in a very efficient and not at all ancient way: they copy the contents of the current version to a new folder, patch that copy and then delete the old folder. So to install patches in UWP you have to have at least the same amount of free space on the drive as the size of the app/game you want to patch.
Sooooo it's doing what the PS3 does with downloads? Sounds pretty archaic.
RamaTheVoice
Member
You need to have enough free space for the entire game (it apparently copies the whole thing to a new folder, patches it and then deletes the old copy). So you'd need somewhere between 60-80Gb free to patch the game.
What I did is moved it to another hard drive, patched it and moved it back.
dmix90
Member
Can you guys please explain whats happening with reconstruction tech after patch? Looks like with upscaling option turned off 4xMSAA is still applied even for 1080p+ buffers... at least that would explain huge performance drop. Hope you can let us tweak MSAA setting if thats the case. Such high values probably not needed at high resolutions?
I think it's just a glitch. Or so I hope. It was about 40GB when I left, PC had turned off the monitors when I returned and then it was 80GB and the progress bar was glitched as seen in the screenshot after I woke it up.
#WinStoreExperience
icecold1983
Member
hopefully remedy will issue a statement of what exactly the setting does. reconstruction seems to still be happening
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
I think there's a misconception here that's worth addressing. As far as I know at this time there are no UWA apps on Xbox One (some of the built in Microsoft apps might be, you can run dev mode apps at the moment too) and when they are those won't be games. Games on Xbox One don't run under the Windows 10 layer they run under their own specialised OS to get the best performance. There is likely some code shared between the two versions but Quantum Break on Xbox One is not a UWA app and it's unlikely they share the same binary. AAA games will likely never be UWAs on Xbox One which is one reason I've always been so baffled Microsoft refuses to release normal Win32 versions on Windows. The difference in patch sizes is because they are different code running on different platforms and and such the patch sizes won't necessarily correlate, especially when the issues being fixed differ.
Edit: of course this is confusing because of the way Microsoft talks about UWAs. I see why people think it's the same 'app' but I think it's worth pointing out this isn't the case. I apologise if I got something wrong as well.
that's archaic as hell
I think these are old patch notes, from the previous update. Here are latest PC patch notes from the store page (I was unable to select and copy the text, so I printscreened):
I tried copying from the webpage, but then it all gets garbled into one long line:
Source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/games/quantum-break/9nblggh6h0rv
GroinShooter
Member
Here are latest PC patch notes from the store page (I was unable to select and copy the text, so I printscreened):
Source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/games/quantum-break/9nblggh6h0rv
I think you're right, thanks! Updated OP with correct info ;-)
Cool, you may also want to update the graphics options screen, with the new options (like disabling reconstruction), as well as adding DF's analysis to "Benchmarks & Info" links: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-went-wrong-with-quantum-break-pc
Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202252523&postcount=279
Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202252523&postcount=279
GroinShooter
Member
Updated!
Cool, you may also want to update the graphics options screen, with the new options (like disabling reconstruction), as well as adding DF's analysis to "Benchmarks & Info" links: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-went-wrong-with-quantum-break-pc
Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202252523&postcount=279
"keeping this enabled is highly recommended, as it offers the best visual quality without a significant penalty to performance".
Wut?
GroinShooter
Member
Yeah, it's been downloading rather fine on my end too but it has stopped once and I also had to pause and unpause to get it going again. At 23gb/27gb right now.
I don't know how to measure framerates in real time - but I assume that lack of triple buffering was not fixed? If I disable upscaling in 1080p, then the game seems to be immediately dropping to 30fps. I even downgraded some graphics options by a notch and nothing changed. Still choppy. But the momend I enabled upscaling it was back to smooth 60fps.
I have 980Ti and i7 6700K.
Any way to measure framerate in UWP other than presentmon?
I have 980Ti and i7 6700K.
Any way to measure framerate in UWP other than presentmon?
frontieruk
Member
The patch added the option of disabling the resolution reconstruction:
Quick comparison:
Upscaling on:
Upscaling off:
Another couple of options added are film grain toggle and main menu game exit option.
Thanks, Remedy, I knew you could do it =)
Edit: Seems to run kinda ok without upscaling in 1080p on Ultra preset on my 980Ti.
I'll wait for vsync off option MS promised in May before playing it though.
Remedy should also think about adding a motion blur toggle in future patches.
Not keen on the change in lighting. The sharpness improvement appreciated though
Inspectah_Deck
Member
I made a screenshot comparison of reproduction on and off:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/171252
(screens by dr_rus and Zywy)
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/171252
(screens by dr_rus and Zywy)
metareferential
Member
The difference in sharpness is negligible, even though it's there. What an endless disaster.
Edit:let's see this other comparison.
Edit:let's see this other comparison.