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Racist Investor Marc Faber:"Thank God white people populated America, not the blacks"

Veon

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His comment makes no sense since the South fought for their rights to keep slaves which in turn screwed over poor white people finically.
 

Alebrije

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Daingurse

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I love how racists have enough awareness to know that being a racist is bad, but can just never see how they perpetuate racism themselves. Shit is really fucking irritating.
 

PSqueak

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I love how racists have enough awareness to know that being a racist is bad, but can just never see how they perpetuate racism themselves. Shit is really fucking irritating.

Well, people used to justify themselves because they thought not being a literal nazi or a member of the kkk meant they weren't really racist, but you know how's it been in 2017 now.

It's the classic "Since im not the worst, that means im not bad" fallacy.
 

yrba1

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Must be his dementia manifesting to be more explicit about it like Trump. Good to know he's been removed from the board of Ivanhoe Mines, Sprott Inc. and NovaGold Resources. Too bad the son of a bitch will likely die peacefully of natural causes
 

Alcotholic

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A black America would probably do just as well as a white America.
Don't know for sure, but its a pretty safe assumption.
 

theignoramus

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A black America would probably do just as well as a white America.
Don't know for sure, but its a pretty safe assumption.

The trajectory would be different, based on what we know of medieval African civilisations. They were sculptors, warriors, merchants, stonemasons, herders, tradesmen, artists, brilliant craftsmen, astronomers, explorers. If the builder class emigrated to America, they would have established strong trade relationships with Native Americans and the rest of the world.
There may have been slavery, but it wouldnt have been a racialised caste system pounded into social institutions for hundreds of years.
There may have been wars with Native American tribes, but I doubt there would be organised campaigns to ethnically cleanse whole areas of Indians.
There would be little to no inclination to get involved in any sort of internal European war, unless backing one European power over another meant eliminating an existential threat to American sovereignty.
I doubt there would have been an expansionist war with Mexico.
I also doubt the nation would be founded in opposition to a monarchy, there would probably be a dynastic family ruling the nation with a cabinet of appointed officials, kind of like Rome.
 

Monocle

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He should invent a device to slap the stupid out of himself.

"I'm not a racist but..."

Sure, uh-huh.
 

Trojita

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The trajectory would be different, based on what we know of medieval African civilisations. They were sculptors, warriors, merchants, stonemasons, herders, tradesmen, artists, brilliant craftsmen, astronomers, explorers. If the builder class emigrated to America, they would have established strong trade relationships with Native Americans and the rest of the world.
There may have been slavery, but it wouldnt have been a racialised caste system pounded into social institutions for hundreds of years.
There may have been wars with Native American tribes, but I doubt there would be organised campaigns to ethnically cleanse whole areas of Indians.
There would be little to no inclination to get involved in any sort of internal European war, unless backing one European power over another meant eliminating an existential threat to American sovereignty.
I doubt there would have been an expansionist war with Mexico.
I also doubt the nation would be founded in opposition to a monarchy, there would probably be a dynastic family ruling the nation with a cabinet of appointed officials, kind of like Rome.

I highly doubt your sunshine and rainbows history would have been true knowing about the civilizations of west africa and north africa at the time.

Benin and the Niger Delta and Igbo were cool but wouldn't have been primed for oceanic traversal and colonizing. The Mali Emprire was dead. The Akan Kingdoms and Asante Empire wouldn't come till later. Morocco wasn't in any position to expand at the time.
 

boiled goose

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Such a stupid statement. White Europeans at that point in time were imperialistic. Africans weren't.

So yeah. Even without racist premise it's hard to even imagine what that would look like as the whole world would be different.

He has clearly internalized white supremacy.
 

Trojita

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Such a stupid statement. White Europeans at that point in time were imperialistic. Africans weren't.

So yeah. Even without racist premise it's hard to even imagine what that would look like as the whole world would be different.

He has clearly internalized white supremacy.
What is your definition of an empire? Because they were definitely imperial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires
 

Derwind

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I highly doubt your sunshine and rainbows history would have been true knowing about the civilizations of west africa and north africa at the time.

Benin and the Niger Delta and Igbo were cool but wouldn't have been primed for oceanic traversal and colonizing. The Mali Emprire was dead. The Akan Kingdoms and Asante Empire wouldn't come till later. Morocco wasn't in any position to expand at the time.

You're correct if you're looking at it from a 1:1 timeline with European expansion/colonialism but I don't think the poster is wrong in describing how such a version of America would look like had black people met first nations people instead of europeans.

Also, empires like the Mali empire fell around the time of the Atlantic slave trade which conservative estimates describe the displacement of 60+ million people over the course 400 years to the profit of European nations, depleting these lands of human capital which could have ushered in social/political innovations from the ashes of their previous empires. Progress in West Africa(and more broadly the whole continent) was stunted well before we could get a sense of what their full potential.

Now, with that being said, I'm not saying you're wrong, however, I don't think its as clear cut as you describe.
 

Mimosa97

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The trajectory would be different, based on what we know of medieval African civilisations. They were sculptors, warriors, merchants, stonemasons, herders, tradesmen, artists, brilliant craftsmen, astronomers, explorers. If the builder class emigrated to America, they would have established strong trade relationships with Native Americans and the rest of the world.
There may have been slavery, but it wouldnt have been a racialised caste system pounded into social institutions for hundreds of years.
There may have been wars with Native American tribes, but I doubt there would be organised campaigns to ethnically cleanse whole areas of Indians.
There would be little to no inclination to get involved in any sort of internal European war, unless backing one European power over another meant eliminating an existential threat to American sovereignty.
I doubt there would have been an expansionist war with Mexico.
I also doubt the nation would be founded in opposition to a monarchy, there would probably be a dynastic family ruling the nation with a cabinet of appointed officials, kind of like Rome.

Please write a fiction book about this. I'll buy the first copie.
 

Toxi

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I have to wonder what a "I'm not a racist" person actually considers to be racist.
"I'm not a racist, but I think white Americans in general should be more cognizant of the institutionalized forms of discrimination still present in the United States."
 

Cameron122

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”I'm just pointing out some historical facts. Just not the ones about Anglo peoples raping, exploiting and destroying different African nations through the stripping of resources and enslavement of people. But that doesn't matter. Blacks just inherently aren't successful."

ah yes

the bootstraps gene

The trajectory would be different, based on what we know of medieval African civilisations. They were sculptors, warriors, merchants, stonemasons, herders, tradesmen, artists, brilliant craftsmen, astronomers, explorers. If the builder class emigrated to America, they would have established strong trade relationships with Native Americans and the rest of the world.
There may have been slavery, but it wouldnt have been a racialised caste system pounded into social institutions for hundreds of years.
There may have been wars with Native American tribes, but I doubt there would be organised campaigns to ethnically cleanse whole areas of Indians.
There would be little to no inclination to get involved in any sort of internal European war, unless backing one European power over another meant eliminating an existential threat to American sovereignty.
I doubt there would have been an expansionist war with Mexico.
I also doubt the nation would be founded in opposition to a monarchy, there would probably be a dynastic family ruling the nation with a cabinet of appointed officials, kind of like Rome.

This sounds amazing. Reminds me of this book im reading called Eagle in Exile. Dances with Wolves with Romans and the native americans got some interesting technology