hooijdonk17
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The $199 card only lacks some fillrate and this card does not suffer from fillrate bottlenecks at 1080p anyway. They should be within a margin of error. This would only matter at 1440p above but then 4GB card for 1440p? No.
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Radeon RX480 Review Thread, Launching Now!
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The $199 card only lacks some fillrate and this card does not suffer from fillrate bottlenecks at 1080p anyway. They should be within a margin of error. This would only matter at 1440p above but then 4GB card for 1440p? No.
Well Anandtech at least has both cards: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview
The difference is pretty much the memory clock, 7Gbps vs. 8Gbps. Obviously the extra memory on the 8GB variant helps in some edge cases too.
Reading more it looks like there is a lot of chip to chip variance. Computer base were able to get better performance after undervolting which also reduced power consumption.
Looks like the reference model is a bit of a dud but there is definitely potential for good quality after market cards.
Let's hope glofo can improve the process so the chips have less variation.
Looks like the reference model is a bit of a dud but there is definitely potential for good quality after market cards.
Let's hope glofo can improve the process so the chips have less variation.
Looking at the reviews, this is the best GPU you can get at that price point for the moment. Hopefully availability is good enough that AMD can see a rise in market share this cycle. I think I'm going to drop one in my mother-in-law's PC. She's got a decent case with good air flow and games at 1080p. It's pretty much the perfect use case for the RX480.
ChaosSmurf
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Our new hardware chap at PCGN review it too - http://www.pcgamesn.com/AMD-RX-480-review-benchmarks 7/10
From Canucks - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...9-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-24.html
DX11
DX12
DX12 results are interesting.
For what its worth, reviewers got a new driver just a few days ago that increased the performance by 5%.
With so many improvements under the hood, this is a very forward looking card compared to any of Nvidia's offerings in the segment. (see DX12 conclusions above)
General Lee
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Let's see:
- Performance at 970/390 levels
- Does not OC well at all (unlike the 970)
- Perf/W is similar to 970, a 28 nm product
I guess 199-239$ is the appropriate price for this card. It's a good deal for the moment given the new features and DX12 performance, but I don't see Nvidia having much trouble beating this card in a month or two.
Overall this really isn't the win AMD needed. My worries about AMD's chips just not clocking high for some reason were unfortunately warranted. Could be that GloFo 14nm isn't as good as TSMC 16 nm, and perhaps we'll see improvements with Vega. That said, this doesn't exactly give high hopes for AMD's high end either.
- Performance at 970/390 levels
- Does not OC well at all (unlike the 970)
- Perf/W is similar to 970, a 28 nm product
I guess 199-239$ is the appropriate price for this card. It's a good deal for the moment given the new features and DX12 performance, but I don't see Nvidia having much trouble beating this card in a month or two.
Overall this really isn't the win AMD needed. My worries about AMD's chips just not clocking high for some reason were unfortunately warranted. Could be that GloFo 14nm isn't as good as TSMC 16 nm, and perhaps we'll see improvements with Vega. That said, this doesn't exactly give high hopes for AMD's high end either.
It seems AMD did a good job. Congrats.
Also, this looks good:
That's pretty false, AMD must have failsafes or something with Furmark because that doesn't look like any other power consumption chart. Look at actual gaming power consumption at Anandtech and every other site and you see 480 power consumption typically at around or more commonly just above 1070.
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Seems like this card isn't quite what I was hoping it would be. I guess I now wait to see what else Nvidia and AMD offer in the coming months.
tkscz
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From Canucks - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...9-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-24.html
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These results with DX12 are showing up everywhere and it's telling this card was meant for DX12 over DX11. I wonder if further driver updates would help with running DX11 games.
The chip to chip variance indicates that glofo had teething issues with this node. Hopefully it will get better over time and then the AIBs can do something good with the chip.
Still the power draw is very disappointing as I as expecting something more akin to the 7850 and that would have been good perf/watt.
I'm tempted to swap my OC'd 970 into a computer that I'm selling to increase its value, then use some of that money to replace the 970 with a 480 8GB.
It sounds like a great idea when you see numbers like this...
...but then there's this:
You can preach as much as you want about how DX12 is the future, but there are plenty of DX11 games that I want to play today. Driver problems or no, it looks like AMD will continue to have frametime-related issues with DX11 titles.
For $229, it's still a hell of a deal for anyone replacing an old card or buying their first. I think I'm going to hold out until AIB 1070's have matured and the supply issues have been squashed.
It sounds like a great idea when you see numbers like this...
...but then there's this:
You can preach as much as you want about how DX12 is the future, but there are plenty of DX11 games that I want to play today. Driver problems or no, it looks like AMD will continue to have frametime-related issues with DX11 titles.
For $229, it's still a hell of a deal for anyone replacing an old card or buying their first. I think I'm going to hold out until AIB 1070's have matured and the supply issues have been squashed.
Insane Metal
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Hm. That's weird.
//DEVIL//
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I don't understand some of the logic regarding the price of the card. if I want to compare it to 970, then sure this one wins hands down. but honestly. who has 200$ to spend on a video card but cant afford another 150 $ for 1070 ? or 80$ more if you to buy a used 1070 ?
The card for its value is nice. but if I have to buy a card and I am limited in cash ( again, this is just ME personally speaking ). I would try to manage and find another 150$ and get one that is actually much higher performance. heck I would sell couple of the games I have on consoles if I am that short on cash and not buy a card that is the same level as a 970.
Don't get me wrong the 970 or this are actually good cards. but who knows what is the demand for upcoming games this year or next year will need to run games perfectly on ultra with 60 fps.
The card for its value is nice. but if I have to buy a card and I am limited in cash ( again, this is just ME personally speaking ). I would try to manage and find another 150$ and get one that is actually much higher performance. heck I would sell couple of the games I have on consoles if I am that short on cash and not buy a card that is the same level as a 970.
Don't get me wrong the 970 or this are actually good cards. but who knows what is the demand for upcoming games this year or next year will need to run games perfectly on ultra with 60 fps.
Doesn't work when all you are doing is point one game out .. and from those FT graphs, it doesn't look like they've done a proper job for GTAV so maybe a fix coming soon.
A lot of gaming market is still on 1080p with 960s, 760s, 750Tis, 7850s, 7870s, etc. This card is for them.
Second, a 1070 is not $150 more when its price gouged to hell and back.
Yeah, no question, though I'd also expect the 1060 to outperform the 480, on average, which will bridge the price gap to an extent (also it'll be interesting to see if those price re-evaluation rumours pan out). I'm just curious to see how it will all unfold and if AMD can realistically hold onto their current performance per dollar advantage.
StarPlatinumTheWorld
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hooijdonk17
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Me.
It's not about being ABLE to afford, it's about what you think a decent GPU is worth to you. I would never pay $350 for just a graphics card. The only time I paid $200 or so abouts before was the 9800PRO. I will be shelling out $239 for this.
Once you find that extra $150, you might as well find another $150 and get the next level up card.
LordOfChaos
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This is probably the best tl;dr you're going to get, just skip the stock cooler
poserdonut
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IF I game at 1080p should I get the 4gb our is it worth it to get 8gb?
UK pricing is affected due to brexit
http://www.eteknix.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-card-review/13/
http://www.eteknix.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-card-review/13/
Which world do you live in in which the 1070 is that cheap?
hooijdonk17
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Ok, I've been through a couple of reviews. This card DESTROYS the GTX 980 at DX12 games.
Sothis Krieg
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This translates to 280€ if i'm right so it's not so awesome if you ask me (talking about the price/performance ratio). Is DX12 realy this important at the moment ? (honest question)
Pop-O-Matic
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For those not wanting to deal with stock coolers but don't want to wait for non-reference designs, you could probably get something like the Accelero Mono for $35.
I would recommend to save even more for the GTX1080 then.
Looks like a good value! Had this been available last year it's what I would've gone with instead of a 960 and I wouldn't have bothered upgrading to a 1070. Still, I have to admit that seeing the benchmarks for the 480 only increases my satisfaction with the 1070. They're both excellent cards at their respective price points.
Now the 1060... that's where things are going to get interesting. Nvidia is already moving up the launch in reaction to the 480, but if they don't hit the same price/performance it'll truly be hubris on their part.
Now the 1060... that's where things are going to get interesting. Nvidia is already moving up the launch in reaction to the 480, but if they don't hit the same price/performance it'll truly be hubris on their part.
General Lee
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Tons of people have a strict budget limit they just won't cross. 1070 is unfortunately way past most people's comfort line at the moment. But you are right in the sense that if you can get a 1070 for the imaginary 379$ price point, it's a sure buy. That's just not the case in reality. I was considering getting a 1070, but the cheapest ones would cost me nearly 500€ shipped. Not going to happen.
Aztechnology
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1. The cheapest 1070 at least in the US is nearly twice the cost. Budget builders, people new to gaming or haven't upgraded in a while this is a great choice.
2. The vast majority of players are at 1080p
3. We really need to wait for custom AIB's to see how far this card can really be pushed.
Obviously it's not going to compare with a 1070 but there's plenty of people who simply don't need the power of he 1070 and don't want to pay for it. The 1070 is really designed as a 1440p high fps card or well VR but that's still very niche and will likely be so for a good while.
dynamitejim
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Seems like the reference cooler can't maintain the the 1266MHz Boost Clock too well. In one of Digital Foundry's videos during The Witcher 3 the clock speed was consistently in the 1100s. I'll wait for non-reference boards to come out. With better coolers and an extra 6-pin power connector this chip should be quite nice. Though performance per watt/dollar will go down. I don't think I've seen any reviews with over clocked memory either.
If you aren't in a rush to replace your 7850, I'd say just wait until non-reference cards are out. I think I read that Sapphire will have a Vapor-X version in two weeks or so, but I'm not too sure about that.
You should be fine with 4GB but 8GB could be potentially be advantageous in some games at max texture resolution.
It certainly isn't beating the 970 in DX11 titles:
The only exception is Witcher 3 (Hairworks OFF), where it's about 8-9% faster overall. It's not much worse than a 970 (which may or may not be OC'd in PCPER's testing), but that's not a good look for a 970-killer, let alone something that was originally hyped to be "between a 970 and a 980".
Outdoor Miner
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It's a good card with potential, but I don't think it is anywhere near the value it was hyped up to be, especially if you're waiting on non-reference designs. We're probably looking at $260-ish for those. It places around a 390 in terms of performance, which is where you would expect it fall. I mean usually the expectation for a new cycle is "New Gen x80" performs closely to 'Last Gen x90' but with greater power/temp efficiency, right?
The power efficiency advances made are huge but it still only serves to show how stellar Nvidia is on that front when you see a 1070 doing what it does at equal and sometimes lower wattage.
For someone who has a ceiling of $200 and wants a good 1080p DX12 card for the next 2 years, the 4GB is a no brainer IMO. But I do think anyone with slightly more cash to spend should probably wait out to see what the 1060 offers and how competitive Nvidia want to be with pricing.
The power efficiency advances made are huge but it still only serves to show how stellar Nvidia is on that front when you see a 1070 doing what it does at equal and sometimes lower wattage.
For someone who has a ceiling of $200 and wants a good 1080p DX12 card for the next 2 years, the 4GB is a no brainer IMO. But I do think anyone with slightly more cash to spend should probably wait out to see what the 1060 offers and how competitive Nvidia want to be with pricing.
//DEVIL//
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if you never paid a 350$ for a card dear, it means PC gaming isn't your #1 gaming system. maybe consoles are. because i don't remember cheap video cards since long time.
i thought the gtx 1080 is 250$ more expensive than than 350$ 1070
well you right. right now cheapest is 400$
http://www.newegg.com/GIGABYTE/BrandStore/ID-1314
and its out of stock. but I would imagine the price will go down very soon ?
2002whitegt
Member
That's total system draw not just graphics card.
Well, what's another $100 when you've already saved up the rest? Just keep saving that monies.
RazorbackDB
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Listing error or price error?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-rad...D=1&siteID=AKGBlS8SPlM-jvxiVNb0m66BOOS3SpcoJw
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-rad...D=1&siteID=AKGBlS8SPlM-jvxiVNb0m66BOOS3SpcoJw
hooijdonk17
Member
How about you fuck off and stop telling me what is or isn't my #1 gaming system my dear? PC IS my #1 gaming system, I just go for good p/p midrange cards. Like 80% of the market.
TyphoonStruggle
Member
Wish these sites were giving results to compare 480 and the 1070. I think people want to know what they can get with an extra $150 from the other team.
From my point of view, the extra $150 is totally worth it when considering the Radeon 480 is approximately a GTX 970.
From my point of view, the extra $150 is totally worth it when considering the Radeon 480 is approximately a GTX 970.
BUY BUY BUY
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
I was expecting more for the latest technology. Power consumption is disappointing. Now l have to wait for the 1060GTX to see how that fares.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html