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Randy Pitchford: Wii U Aliens Colonial Marines is best looking version
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I don't suggest it was something like a Wii to PS3 difference. But it had ~1.5x the RAM, ~2x the CPU speed, and ~2x the GPU speed with DX8 hardware instead of DX7-class hardware like the Gamecube. That's not negligible.
BigTnaples
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It being the best version does not mean WiiU is a generational leap.
Still, it is much better than hearing it will look identical to the 360 version.
Looking forward to E3.
Still, it is much better than hearing it will look identical to the 360 version.
Looking forward to E3.
Just because you can bench 300 lbs and I can only bench 200 lbs doesn't make me weak.
That's false.
You are comparing single precision (Cell) to double precision (the i7), which is 32 bit vs 64 bit.
Desktop processors are almost exclusively rated in double precision, the fastest being the i7 980 @ 109GFLOPS, which is above Cell by 9 GFLOPS.
My AMD 1055t OCed to 3.8GHz is at 75 GFLOPs, which isn't that far away from Cell.
In comparison, an 8 core Power7 is capable of nearly 300 GFLOPS in double precision, basically blowing Cell to the moon.
Edit: Nevermind. That i7 is not the fastest, it is just the fastest 6-core.
It's possible to have a substantive hardware improvement over the 360/PS3 while ultimately not being as powerful as the PS4/720 will be. Which is what the bulk of the rumours have been saying for ages.
Personally I'm more interested in what Nintendo's online implementation will be like this time around.
TheNatural
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Wii U underpowered, and I quote, by random gaming rag: 50 pages
Wii U more powerful, plus other relevant shit, confirmed by a major head of development: 2 pages
Wii U more powerful, plus other relevant shit, confirmed by a major head of development: 2 pages
ArachosiA 78
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As a huge Aliens fan, this looks pretty good to me. Some things I liked that I heard from the video:
-In MP you play the Xenomorphs in 3rd person. This is the correct design choice, and this instills a little bit of faith in me for Gearbox.
-Gearbox was inspired by Left 4 Dead's multiplayer. Another very good thing.
-You gain XP in both single player and multiplayer.
-In MP you play the Xenomorphs in 3rd person. This is the correct design choice, and this instills a little bit of faith in me for Gearbox.
-Gearbox was inspired by Left 4 Dead's multiplayer. Another very good thing.
-You gain XP in both single player and multiplayer.
EvilDick34
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Welp, the WiiU footage has DAT LIGHTING.
Wait, wasn't there an actual PC version of RS1?
I seem to recall so, but obviously that's not quite the same as the N64 version - they were damned close though.
-Pyromaniac-
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Good news all around.
Okay, then. Still, the point is that it's a totally different class of CPU. The fact that the Wii U's CPU is weaker on-paper than Cell doesn't necessarily make it a bottleneck.
Yeah I agree with that.
I'm fairly certain that all three next gen consoles could have CPUs weaker than Cell and still deliver much better looking games.
nintendors
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Ok so instead of 4 launch games, i have to get 5 now ^_^
Does Sega have a conferance scheduled at e3 this year?
Does Sega have a conferance scheduled at e3 this year?
I wouldn't expect Nintendo to showcase the system technically, at least so far as their Japanese studios go. Unless EAD Tokyo has something to show off. Retro's game probably will, though.
Played Uncharted on the Vita with Gyro aiming yet?
Do it, and then you'll understand why the Wii U Pad could be better than the Wiimote. It's seriously the best of both worlds.
abstract alien
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Oh, I didnt know it was WiiU footage. Thought it was pc lol
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Seems unknown to me.
EvilDick34
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Now that i think about it, you are right, Nevermind D: .
Yeah, for every 3D console they've done excluding the Wii it's been western partners that have made it really sing, eg Rare and Factor 5 on the N64 and GameCube. You can't put it down to artstyle either, given Rare's typical output.
Nope, don't plan on getting a Vita, but i've used a (probably) similar system in OoT3D and I dunno.... It's okay, but I'm also playing RE4Wii at the moment and it's on another level really (not that it's a FPS either but you know what I mean).
Monolith may have something impressive to show.
It seems like he mentioned that in the video. Well, the controller making noise in conjunction with the motion scanner at least.
I'm still predicting INCREDIBLE disappointment from people on here after Nintendo's E3 showing. Then again, I guess it wont be different than most post-E3 whining as most people set their expectations way above reality. Regardless, this is the first good news I've read about the Wii U since I don't know when.
While Uncharted may be a better example, we do have examples in the 3ds, REvelations (and Oot too) show how effectve the gyro is.
abstract alien
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Sounds like something Suda would do.
Maybe I'm Suda's kid?
Naw, I kid, I kid. The only game developer genes I have in me is Itagaki, and honestly, which of us doesn't have him mixed up in our gene pools?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It's a FPS based on the movie Alien, I am sure a few would.
It's far more responsive/accurate on the Vita due to the inbuilt magnetometer, which the Wii U pad also has.
There just seems to be very little excitement about this game in general.
The Wii-mote doesn't need the magnetometer (while pointing to the screen) due the sensor bar.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I guess, not sure about this specific developer's track record but any FPS that isn't about war is on my radar.
Unless it's from High Voltage.
My interest depends on whether shooting xenos at point blank range has you sprayed with acid and you lose almost all your armor/health.
Or whether walking over dead xenos hurts you.
abstract alien
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I'm assuming it will be a launch title, so anything decent always gets more love. Were this released two years from now, I doubt it.
They have Borderlands which is pretty well liked, but also that sequel coming out soon.
More Alien games seem to be bad than good.
This could just be party of Randy's strategy of selling more copies and getting people to care (if only becuz console warz!)
abstract alien said:
Unless your a vita game
Was comparing to the 3DS, not the Wii.
However, it does pose the chance that it could be far better than the Wiimote. Dual analog control, PLUS accurate motion/gyro aiming. It'll be superb.
This is why exclusives matter.
They tend to get more attention by fans of that console.
In this case, it isn't an exclusive. But so few Wii U titles known that being.. public helps you gain a lot of early traction.
Claiming ~2x CPU and GPU performance is pushing it. ~1.5x tops. Also Flipper isn't just a vanilla DX7-class card. The TEV units in the chip are very similar in function to the SM1.0 pipelines in the NV2A, it's just that they're proprietary to Art X chips so they were never recognised as part of any standard. DX7+ Class would be a more accurate description.
So yeah whilst the performance differences aren't negligible, they're not big enough to warrant calling the GCN underpowered either. Especially not when you consider the huge difference in manufacturing costs.
Here's probably the best GCN vs Xbox comparison I can think of. Multiplats that were well optimised for both platforms are hard to come by but we at least have this one: Metal Arms. As can be seen, the gap between the Xbox and GCN versions is pretty small. Both platforms are pushing a lot of the same effects. The PS2 version is completely fucked though.
You're probably right about that. I wonder how Batman: Arkham City will do since it will be a year old game by the time it's ported to Wii U. There's gonna be a lot of ports this year for Wii U. How much can third-parties expect out of the sales of their current-gen ports (regardless of being old or new) when their going up against Nintendo's own full-fledged next-gen titles and a potential port of Black Ops 2 (not sure if Activison's confirmed support yet) ? A lot of these games are going to be fighting for sales scraps.
SolidSnakex
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There's only been a slow trickle of news for this game, so that's probably part of the reason. But I do think that this helps Nintendo fans take notice because it shows that Gearbox is putting effort into the Wii U version. When you bought a DC you expected ports to look better than they did on the PSone and N64, the same for when you bought a 360 and you expected improved PS2, Xbox and GC ports. They were still ports, so they obviously looked different than a game built for the system, but you still saw the improvements like you'd expect. If the rumors are true that the Wii U is 2-3x's the power of current consoles, then there's no excuse for developers to not release superior ports on the system. A game like BO2 shouldn't be running at 600p with a fluctuating 60fps framerate on that system.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Well, someone said they are doing some pretty cool things with the controller but I doubt it looks any better than the other console versions.
For sure. I brought it for the PC for just £5.
Hopefully it won't launch at full price £39.99.
abstract alien
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Geez, at least let the Vita have it's spirit left in tact lol
I'll take your word for it, but my intuition says that the split hand set up of the Wii remote (or mouse) would be more comfortable at least.
From Edge's preview it sounds like they're taking the Aliens approach of action>horror, where the xenomorths are only threatening in packs. Unfortunately.