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It's a shame that this thread has only two pages, whereas the 300 thread had like a million responses on the first trailer alone. It almost seems that the motion picture industry is suffering the same fate as something like videogames, where heartfelt movies with actual talent put into them only appeal to a small crowd and aren't very highly desired by mass audiences who will gladly settle for the next star-packed, special effects-ridden picture on the scene.

If this weren't the case, maybe the animation industry would feel a push to be more inventive than settling for the next talking animal flick and go back to its roots --at least as far as storytelling is concerned. I'm a little saddened each time I see a new Pixar film release coming up, because it's really one of the last hopes animation has for itself before the whole thing really seems like it'll just fall apart.
 
Well, considering worldwide sales, Pixar films put 300 to shame. It's just GAF that has limited interest. I think if I would have put "Pixar's 'Ratatouille'" the thread would be better off. Not many people even know the film yet.
 
J2 Cool said:
Well, considering worldwide sales, Pixar films put 300 to shame. It's just GAF that has limited interest. I think if I would have put "Pixar's 'Ratatouille'" the thread would be better off. Not many people even know the film yet.
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Interesting.

In the bigger picture, there's still trouble for animation where there used to not be at all. It's really hard to find a decent film not by Pixar, which dispositions most people to not seeing them and instead watching the latest comedy buddy flick.
 
Yeah, I suppose your right, but this was pretty much predicted by the Pixar staff years back. Saying watch out for shitty animated tales trying to follow up our success. They think CG is money. Now the times come when all their stuff is being pushed out and it's junk. The good thing for the future of the animation industry is Disney being pushed back on track - with films of both CG and hand drawn.

Then you have the short film which always has talent from the industry working on them. And Disney itself will start creating short films again. At least Goofy shorts announced as of now. I mean, consider the possibility of 2 great animated films a year and I don't think there's been that kind of production ever. That is if Disney can be great again. I'm also a fan of Andrew Stanton and expecting big things from Wall-E. The future looks alright imo. Just gotta let the shit fly by.

Btw, I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if Brad Bird gets an oscar nom for best original screenplay for this again. He works with an ease - creating original, thoughtful, funny, creative films. He's far more in control of his craft than most manipulative writers in Hollywood. I think the academy recognizes it as well. The guys still has passion and energy meanwhile to put his hand over the animation team as a whole and inspire original, well acted stuff. And then direct the film.
 
J2 Cool said:
Yeah, I suppose your right, but this was pretty much predicted by the Pixar staff years back. Saying watch out for shitty animated tales trying to follow up our success. They think CG is money. Now the times come when all their stuff is being pushed out and it's junk. The good thing for the future of the animation industry is Disney being pushed back on track - with films of both CG and hand drawn.

Then you have the short film which always has talent from the industry working on them. And Disney itself will start creating short films again. At least Goofy shorts announced as of now. I mean, consider the possibility of 2 great animated films a year and I don't think there's been that kind of production ever. That is if Disney can be great again. I'm also a fan of Andrew Stanton and expecting big things from Wall-E. The future looks alright imo. Just gotta let the shit fly by.

Btw, I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if Brad Bird gets an oscar nom for best original screenplay for this again. He works with an ease - creating original, thoughtful, funny, creative films. He's far more in control of his craft than most manipulative writers in Hollywood. I think the academy recognizes it as well. The guys still has passion and energy meanwhile to put his hand over the animation team as a whole and inspire original, well acted stuff. And then direct the film.
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Brad Bird is indeed a hero of our times; I sure would love ot see him get a nomination, if not an award. I sure do hope Disney can find some of their magic again --I'm still on the fence with Meet the Robinsons, but at least the animation looks ace.

I just needed to rant a minute, since it gets on my nerves every now and then. Cash-ins wouldn't work so well if people didn't fall for them every time, but what are you gonna do? If a studio can attach a few big names to a project then they get the green light and the audience will follow. I'm looking forward to a few films, and especially whatever they're up to with Rapunzel Unbraided, but you're right... it's best to just let the tough pills go by and move on.
 
Mr. Spinnington said:
It's a shame that this thread has only two pages, whereas the 300 thread had like a million responses on the first trailer alone.
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GAF responds to easily repeatable catch phrases and memes, not story or heart.

That trailer's fantastic. The lighting and texture work is exquisite, that's what is most impressing me. Plus, the animation on the rats' fur and skin folding and stretching is really something. Day one for sure.
 
This movie has WIN written all over it. I especially like how the mice characters are only partly anthropomorphic, just like in classic Don Bluth movies (Secret of N.I.M.H. and American Tail). The can stand and walk, yet they run on four legs like real mice. Great stuff.
 
If Remy never actually speaks to a human character for real, I'm going to be overjoyed. That's pretty daring for a big American animated film. This followed by the even more daring WALL*E, Pixar seems to be seriously upping the ante.
 
jett said:
This movie looks so ****ing great. Without Brad Bird Pixar is nothing(to me).
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Well, we have to give Jan Pinkava credits for writing the story and co-directing the movie (and directing, at first).
 
****ing AWESOME. Best human design I've ever seen. And, yeah, the story and characters look amazing. I pumped my first at the end. It was just, ah. I can't wait for this movie. It's this summer, right?

RIGHT?
 
^ June 29

Brad Bird rewrote the entire script using the same characters (
except for changing the old chef to a figment of Remy's imagination
) and locations.
 
Dan said:
^ June 29
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I'm really looking forward to this. I think this has all the makings of a classic.... unlike the forgetable crap that was Cars.
 
Could someone post a direct link ?

Disney is forbidding me to watch that trailer since I'm not in the US. I'm redirected to the international website each times.

GOD I HATE THAT.

Thanks
 
From what I've been reading and my own personal observations, I have a feeling this will be generally regarded as the best movie Pixar will ever have put out.

Wow, you would have to go back to the actual Walt Disney days to find a streak longer than this.. 12 years Pixar has been giving us movies, and (IMHO of course) not a bad one among them.

I am also going to give Meet the Robinson's the benefit of the doubt. Knowing how heavily involved Lassetter was in getting the story on track gives me hope that it could be the first great animated movie from Disney since Lilo & Stitch (has it really been five years???? ouch... :( )
 
Ugh, Meet the Robinsons looks like complete & utter crap. But if you are willing to take one for the team, let us know how it is :)
 
SteveMeister said:
Ugh, Meet the Robinsons looks like complete & utter crap. But if you are willing to take one for the team, let us know how it is :)
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really? I've laughed at all the trailers, and laughed hard at the most recent (before terebithia iirc). Ever since reading about Lassetter and how much time he has personally put into overseeing the movie.. I just have a feeling WDFA (or at least Lassetter and Catmull through WDFA) is trying to make a statement with it. That the general crapiness that we've endured since Pocahontas is done with.. hopefully I'm right.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
The trailer LOOKED nice. But the movie looks like a snorefest.
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Each to his own. I thought the movie looked absolutely charming. Made me grin throughout. When I say charming I'm referring to the story as well as the beautiful atmosphere of Ratatouille. I thought the world of Cars looked charming, but the story had me pretty bored. One thing I love about Bird is that he's a master of creating non-verbal comedy.

Can't wait for this movie, hope it wins best animation of the year. Would hate to see The Simpsons get it simply because of the show's status and popularity. Speaking of which, I just read a review which says the Simpsons movie is only around 75 mins long...wtf?
 
Dan said:
^ June 29

Brad Bird rewrote the entire script using the same characters (
except for changing the old chef to a figment of Remy's imagination
) and locations.
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Have a synopsis of the old story?
 
There's no freakin' way The Simpsons would win an Oscar. Maybe if it had arrived years ago, but so much of the goodwill is gone. By my count there are going to be less animated releases this year than last, so there's pretty much no chance of there being 5 noms for the category, unless a good four or so foreign ones get tiny releases at the end of the year. That's the only way I can see The Simpsons slipping in. I predict Ratatouille, Shrek the Third and either Surf's Up or Beowulf getting the noms.

I believe Meet the Robinsons is coming attached with an old Chip & Dale short that was crafted for the oldschool 3D tech. So at least for the Real D screenings, you've got a old short that'll screen close to the way originally intended. That's made much more interested in seeing this in theaters, and giving the Real D experience a shot.

temp said:
Have a synopsis of the old story?
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I don't think one's public, at least one detailed enough to reveal what changed with Bird's revision. The only change I know that's confirmed is
Brad Garrett's restaurant owner (not a chef, as I said above) being dead. I believe he now haunts the place but only shows himself to Remy. Originally, he was, well, alive.
This is probably one of those things we'll either get hints at in interviews around the film's release or everyone will remain tight-lipped for years.
 
Milhouse31 said:
Could someone post a direct link ?

Disney is forbidding me to watch that trailer since I'm not in the US. I'm redirected to the international website each times.

GOD I HATE THAT.

Thanks
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Here you go.. http://disney.go.com/dxd/index.html...content=44410&contentPlayerID=dxd_vid_player&

And if that doesn't work, sit through the first minute and a half of this for the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NfGndNYYIg&eurl=http://upcomingpixar.blogspot.com/

Steve Meister said:
Ugh, Meet the Robinsons looks like complete & utter crap. But if you are willing to take one for the team, let us know how it is. :)
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I'm going to see it. If only to check out what kind of job Lasseter did on the film, and to check out Ratatouille in HD. Having changed 60% of the film, Lasseter has a major hand in this for better or wose. I've actually heard some good things as well so far..

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/keep-moving-forward

This isn’t a review or critique of Meet The Robinsons, but I saw the film today at a screening at the El Capitan, in 3-D.

In a nutshell, it’s a very likeable film with eye-popping visuals, gorgeous art direction and pleasing character designs. The 3-D is great. The Streamline Moderne future is pretty cool, though the architecture reminded me more of Music Land (the 1935 Silly Symphony) than Tomorrowland. The story is a bit disjointed—shifting from heartwarming reality one moment to off-the-wall zaniness the next. In Disney terms, think if Pollyanna were grafted into Babes In Toyland. But it does hang together pretty well.

The film ends with a great quote
from Walt Disney himself:

“Around here, however, we don’t look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things… and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.”
–Walt Disney

This quote perfectly caps the theme of the movie, but even moreso, it sends a subtle message about Lasseter’s commitment to Disney heritage—and possibly states a new direction for the beleaguered animation studio. Or at least I’d like to think so.

Am I reading too much into this? All I know is the quote was a nice touch, and I left the theater feeling pretty optimistic about the future—of Disney.
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Oh yeah, and the old school Disney short included with the feature is great news.
 
J2 Cool said:
Well, considering worldwide sales, Pixar films put 300 to shame. It's just GAF that has limited interest. I think if I would have put "Pixar's 'Ratatouille'" the thread would be better off. Not many people even know the film yet.
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Exactly. I had no idea that Ratatouille was a Pixar film. I thought it was a book or a band or something (based on the topics the OT likes to discuss)
 
The only thing that could've made this summer perfect was The Dark Knight and an awesome Indy IV. But 2007 is so awesome, they had to be left over for 2008.
 
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