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Rate the Xbox Showcase 2023
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
A tale of three showcases:
Its interesting the number of folks who voted “fantastic” in PS poll is almost exactly the same as “very bad” in Xbox poll
Anyway, the showcase is certainly impressive, really a big contrast to the mediocre showing by Sony
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DenchDeckard
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If all these games plus more launch within the next 24 months they're more than back on track.
DenchDeckard
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Captain Toad
Banned
C+
Loxus
Member
And Sony all of a sudden stop releasing games?
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I need to see what these votes are. I think it needs to be visible or what's the point?
Will help with the ignore list.
Will help with the ignore list.
Captain Toad
Banned
Good grief.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Eh?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
If that showcase was voted below a B for anyone I have no interest in their opinion on games.
xrnzaaas
Member
Mediocre. Starfield pretty much saved it from being even worse. First of all too many CGI trailers. Fable's trailer would be great if we didn't know about the game and it was announced for the very first time. Not when at least a tiny bit of gameplay was expected. Many games were also "missing" from the showcase, like Indiana Jones, Perfect Dark, new Doom/Quake/Wolfenstein, State of Decay 3 or the new Gears.
Loxus
Member
It goes both ways, no?
STARFIELD was all I wanted to see out of the showcase and I got what I wanted. Removing it, I would say the best thing about the show was METAPHOR, which hopefully will be a return to the mature for some of these PERSONA devs (the Saturday morning cartoon vibe of PERSON 5 and its spinoffs is just. . .bleagh).
The worst - AVOWED. What we saw has NONE of the flare of or charm of POE whatsoever. Yeah they have Xaurips and the Auamua narrator was cool to see, but it all lacked any kind of charm. It just looked like any other open world Western RPG. POE2 especially just has this sort of style to it, despite being an isometric RPG; it felt completely missing from that trailer.
. . .anyway, decent enough show though most everything was 2024, so XBOX is looking to ride STARFIELD for a long while it seems.
The worst - AVOWED. What we saw has NONE of the flare of or charm of POE whatsoever. Yeah they have Xaurips and the Auamua narrator was cool to see, but it all lacked any kind of charm. It just looked like any other open world Western RPG. POE2 especially just has this sort of style to it, despite being an isometric RPG; it felt completely missing from that trailer.
. . .anyway, decent enough show though most everything was 2024, so XBOX is looking to ride STARFIELD for a long while it seems.
itsjustJEFF
Member
This right here!
The terribleness of Sony's makes this one look much better. Sony's was so bad, there was noway this one could have been worse lol Yea, there was a fair amount of CGI and "in-engine" but a good amount that looked like gameplay.
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El Pistolero
Banned
A tad better than sonys?
Yep. Avowed looked rough; Fable, I am still unsure about its potential, but we saw almost nothing gameplay wise...Same thing with Hellblade II. The compulsion thing was an in-engine trailer...
They showed more first party titles than Sony, but in an unoptimal way, imo. Plus, not a single WOW! moment for me...and I usually like for one or two newly introduced projects to come out of nowhere and blow me away...No such thing in-here...
So what is it that some people found really exciting at the showcase!? Genuinely interested...
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DenchDeckard
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What I found genuinely exciting was the overall quality of the presentation and the games shown.
I feel it did miss one big huge announcement to close the show. But I guess they are saving those for some other time as we know there's some big ones in the works....indiana Jones game, gears etc.
But for me the exciting parts were seeing Fable and it looked to love up to my Terry Pratchet British humour loving heart.
Then it was just all the great varied announcements that shows off gaming across the board...
The starfield section was incredible imo and the games looks top tier.
El Pistolero
Banned
Glad that you liked it as much as you did. I genuinely did not think it was that good myself...Hell, I wish MS had seized the opportunity to make a much better showcase, burrying Sony PR wise for the remainder of the year...As it stands, and while I believe it was perfectly respectable, at no point was I impressed by anything shown on screen. I guess that with age, one becomes a bit more jaded/exacting!
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Wastelander92
Member
9/10, excited for Starfield, Avowed, Hellblade, and Metaphor!
avin
Member
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Very good, had they given me a few more dates it would have been incredible.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Thabass
Member
Same. I've been VERY critical of Bethesda games, but even I can't deny, looks like they have done some work on this game. Hopefully it isn't a bug infested mess.
tommycronin
Banned
The fact that there isn't any Phil Spencer needs to step down from Xbox threads means it was a pretty good show for them.
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supernova8
Banned
It was a good showcase relative to my expectations (ie very low) and I'm glad they just had game after game after game without too much corporate speak fluff in between.
Have to say I tuned out from the Starfield thing about 10 minutes in. Looks janky and they still haven't figured out how to make the NPCs (ie their eyes) not look like zombies?!
Other than that yeah pretty satisfied. Plus they have another showcase thing tomorrow so I'll watch that first and then make up my mind properly. Definitely a step in the direction though.
Have to say I tuned out from the Starfield thing about 10 minutes in. Looks janky and they still haven't figured out how to make the NPCs (ie their eyes) not look like zombies?!
Other than that yeah pretty satisfied. Plus they have another showcase thing tomorrow so I'll watch that first and then make up my mind properly. Definitely a step in the direction though.
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yurinka
Member
I think that what they have they made the best show possible even if again they had cg/cinematic trailers with no gameplay and in some cases not even release year, and I think they are 100% sure that Hellblade 2 won't be released in 2024 because a year ago they still were in preproduction building a vertical slice.
Promising first party games, a big focus on Starfield that looks great, good 3rd party (very likely all multiplatform) reveals -some of them for GP day one- and very little shovelware.
Promising first party games, a big focus on Starfield that looks great, good 3rd party (very likely all multiplatform) reveals -some of them for GP day one- and very little shovelware.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
This was an excellent showcase. Best one from Microsoft since the early Xbox 360 days. They delivered confidence that their brand is starting to show real tangible releases that should carry over into 2024 and beyond with exciting content.
I also believe it's best we drop the expectations of "next gen" though, because it's not doing any of us any favors. Just expect great content and sharp visuals. I would much rather take quicker releases of games if it means there's less focus on visual perfection/technical mastery.
But overall, fantastic showing by Microsoft. They gave me confidence that the Xbox platform will start seeing a great cadence of content that should keep their ecosystem more competitive and relevant in the years to come.
- Fable - Visually stunning, interesting/quirky direction. Didn't see gameplay, but I know Playground will deliver above and beyond the expectations of the franchise.
- Avowed - Man, I really loved what I saw. Nothing next-gen visually, but they nailed a very unique, magical look to the game that leans heavily into fantasy which I love. We have Skyrim for the more grounded stuff. I have very high expectations for this one.
- South of Midnight - Has me intrigued. Not much more than that at this point. Wait and see.
- Clockwork Revolution - Stempunk BioShock infinite vibes with time manipulation? Count me in. Very intrigued to see more about this, and glad we actually got tangible gameplay. Again, nothing next gen, but a wonderful art design/style.
- Hellblade 2 - Honestly, the biggest disappointment of the show. We don't need another cinematic teaser when they last revealed a snippet of gameplay. Looks a lot blurrier than previous showings and I didn't come away impressed. If they weren't ready to show something more complete, they should have just not shown up at all imho. Trailers need to show progression, not regression. Good to see it coming out in 2024 (hopefully)
- Path of the Goddess - Not exclusive or on GP, but I really liked what I saw here. Glad MS is coming out and giving these titles some free marketing because Capcom doesn't generally miss.
- Jusant - Beautiful climbing game aesthetic and on GamePass. I'm stoked to try it out because I love the look of this game.
- Starfield - Microsoft needed a big win for 2023 after Redfall and they look to have it here. Will be a GOTY contender. Gorgeous, crisp 4K visuals, textures, with a beautiful lighting system. The game marries that with amazing art direction. Honestly Starfield is way more appealing to me personally than Fallout (which I don't really care about), and probably even exceeds Skyrim to me. So this really does have that potential to be a banner title for Xbox that keeps audiences engaged for a very long time just like Skyrim. Downsides are that the NPCs/cinematics look unbelievably dated. But visually it looks really nice. Not top tier next-gen, but very pleasant to look at and the combat seems to have improved significantly from the last showing even if it's not top-tier in that genre. Sad that this game is exclusive, because I feel it would benefit a wider audience on Playstation and this win doesn't feel as "deserved" for MS.
I also believe it's best we drop the expectations of "next gen" though, because it's not doing any of us any favors. Just expect great content and sharp visuals. I would much rather take quicker releases of games if it means there's less focus on visual perfection/technical mastery.
But overall, fantastic showing by Microsoft. They gave me confidence that the Xbox platform will start seeing a great cadence of content that should keep their ecosystem more competitive and relevant in the years to come.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
That's why I'm waiting awhile to get it once it releases
LastBattle
Member
Is was DOPE!! That closing segment after the Star Field direct had me hyped!! So much to be excited for being an Xbox fan.
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akaFullmetal
Member
It was a good show, lots of variety.juat not much gameplay though, they can do better on that front. Good solid B.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Flight Sim 2024. That just came out of the blue and looks amazing both visually and in the range of things you can do in the world.
DenchDeckard
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I just don't agree at all. They pretty much showed a ton of games for 2023 and 2024 q1/q2? then followed up that there's more games for 2024.
yes, they didnt give us exact dates but with how the world has been with delays and them missing their 12 month window i can see why.
the show had more or less every single base covered. Action games, rpgs, jrpgs, racing games, indie games, strategy games, simulators, racing sim, FPS...gamepass day ones.. .
I feel all they were missing representation wise was a fighting game like killer instinct.
they delivered....and left us wanting more from games we know are deep in progress. Which is awesome...more than enough awesome content for now and the future.
Glad that you liked it as much as you did. I genuinely did not think it was that good myself...Hell, I wish MS had seized the opportunity to make a much better showcase, burrying Sony PR wise for the remainder of the year...As it stands, and while I believe it was perfectly respectable, at no point was I impressed by anything shown on screen. I guess that with age, one becomes a bit more jaded/exacting!
There's no way in completely blowing your load and how would they respond with a two to 3 week window of seeing Sony drop the ball so incredibly hard.
This is chess it ain't checkers...lol
Sony has to counter with something and MS showed games we will play within the next 18 months and then they told us there is even more announcements to come. MS did just slam dunk Sony....starfield looks bigger and better than any game from Sony this entire gen and Microsoft looks to have a damn good 12 to 18 months of games with even more to follow.
We know Sony has wolverine but what else have they got for 2024?
We know ms is working deep on games behind the scenes that they can show in due time.
You say avowed looks rough.....I think it looks to play amazingly well...and with obsidian leaning on what makes them a great studio...I can't see how you can't be excited about it...
There's too much of an onlbsession with graphics...and avowed looks great. Go watch the 4k trailer. If you think that looks really bad then.....I dunno
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supernova8
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Weird thing is that I think part of it was a bit bull-shoty. If you look at Senua's reflection in the water:
and then
Senua seemingly in the actual game:
It just looks a bit bullshot-y in that specific bit. Not that it doesn't look good (it looks great), but her face/animations are clearly not that good in the actual game.
I think really they shot themselves in the foot by showing that "in-engine" reveal back in 2019, which probably wasn't in-engine at all and was obviously too good to be true.
I think for Xbox yes, if they aren't going to visually wow with any of the stuff coming in 2024 (of which I guess some might be pushed into 2025) then I'm not expecting bangers. I still do expect Playstation to deliver at least a few visual bangers though.
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James Sawyer Ford
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stop with these hyperbolic comments, it’s taking away from an otherwise great showing
Not even close.
CoreyFlawless
Member
Hell, you can take out the starfield extra part at the end. It was still a good show and better what PlayStation and summer games show was. With the starfield. Damn great show. Anybody saying it wasn’t, just wants to hate on Xbox for the hell of it. Don’t even care if it good. They gonna say it bad
bluecowboys
Banned
343 is making Halo Season 4 update.
Investor9872
Member
It was worst at first, and only moving up to mediocre with the Starfield presentation for me. I love quite a few titles that they had shown, but there just wasn't enough gameplay footage for me to convince me that they will be any good yet. Hoping for the best, though. But Starfield. Now that's how you present a game!
gothmog
Gold Member
I thought it was a better show than Sony's, but I had some pretty big disappointments. Starfield is looking great, but I didn't really like what I saw of Hellblade, Fable, and Avowed. Avowed maybe I just need to see more of, but Fable in particular had me just scratching my head.
I'm hoping both Sony and Microsoft do another update in the fall.
I'm hoping both Sony and Microsoft do another update in the fall.
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ryzen1
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I'm not that big of a Xbox/Microsoft fan, but out of all the showcases, this was definitely the best.
Their pacing of showing bangers and non bangers was very good. You never got bored.
Sony must do another show with more 1st party stuff. Everything else is super bad.
Their pacing of showing bangers and non bangers was very good. You never got bored.
I don't think MS has more to show.
Sony must do another show with more 1st party stuff. Everything else is super bad.
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Chaplain
Member
I give it a C like I did Sony's last conference. I think it has more to do with my tastes in gaming changing than anything else. It takes a lot to capture my interest after playing games for over 40 years and not even Starfield looked interesting. I hope playing it changes my mind though.
gothmog
Gold Member
Release dates for the first half of 2024 games would be appreciated from Xbox. Sony just needs to show the first party stuff and everyone will be happy.
Robb
Gold Member
I rate it: A lot better than Sony
It was OK, a bit slow at times, but they did show loads of first party stuff which was great.
But the in-engine stuff might as well be considered CGI and we got very few solid dates, everything seems to be quite a ways off.
StarField looked fantastic though.
It was OK, a bit slow at times, but they did show loads of first party stuff which was great.
But the in-engine stuff might as well be considered CGI and we got very few solid dates, everything seems to be quite a ways off.
StarField looked fantastic though.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
We have a glorified expansion pack in Spider-Man 2 and 3 shitty GAAS games. Can't say a lot of Sony's games are looking great.
GenericUser
Member
Mediocre imo. (if you exclude Starfield). Avowed is cool but still pretty far away. City Skylines 2 looks interesting, I hope the console version can keep up with the pc version. Other than that, not much for me. If you include Starfield it's obviously S+ tier though.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Solid "A".
Far batter than SGF and Sony's... CGI-fest.
Far batter than SGF and Sony's... CGI-fest.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
It looks polished indeed, I just wanted more realistic graphics. It has Bioshock Infinite vibes and knowing the pedigree of Inxile, the RPG part is gonna be amazing.
Personally, it looked kinda outdated but in 4k video it looked much better than during the stream (I watched with other streamers)
I do find it odd that so many Xbox Studios are not pushing graphics much. But gameplay is top notch.