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Rebuild of Evangelion, Part 1 Official Thread

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Norante said:
Rebuild 2.0 trailer, filmed with a cellphone camera (looks like arse):

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/animation/watch/v180127712zDcZtTW

Seems like it will be all-new animation this time, and some very interesting things to be seen. Cannot wait for this.

That looks awesome.

Part 1 used a lot of the same shots/angles and cinematography with a higher level of detail, but I don't recognize any of the shots except for Kanji on the boat.
 
duckroll said:
No subs at all.
Just like the 1.01 DVD release. What's up with that though? Do they do it just because they're Gainax, or is it not common practice include subtitles?

I mean, Western movies on DVD have subtitles in Japan for obvious reasons, but are they an exception rather than the rule?
 
hirokazu said:
Just like the 1.01 DVD release. What's up with that though? Do they do it just because they're Gainax, or is it not common practice include subtitles?

I mean, Western movies on DVD have subtitles in Japan for obvious reasons, but are they an exception rather than the rule?
I'm sure Gianax knows that the rest of the world would like to see it. They also make a ton off of licensing.

God I just hope they get new voice actors for a dub.

Is it me or from what I've seen of the second movie it looks like Asuka will play a less important role?
 
I'd rather have some elaboration on the First/Second impact time period about Gehrin/early Nerv with young Misato/Gendo/the Akagis etc. than a remake
sequel
, but I guess you need the Freudian triplets to please your audience. I still haven't seen the first rebuild movie, so I'm not complaining about more eva, though. I just don't think the first half of eva holds up nearly as well as most of the second, with the heavier character development.

I can't believe I still remember everything about the story, though, considering I've barelly watched any of it for a good 7-8 years.
 
hirokazu said:
Just like the 1.01 DVD release. What's up with that though? Do they do it just because they're Gainax, or is it not common practice include subtitles?

I mean, Western movies on DVD have subtitles in Japan for obvious reasons, but are they an exception rather than the rule?

Subtitles on Japanese DVD's is rare. Once in awhile you'll get an anime series that has English subs on the DVD release in Japan (though, I can't think of any in the last few years). Studio Ghibli is the only company that puts subtitles on the DVD's regularly, nearly all of their movie DVD's have English subs, and usually a dub, if one has been made.
 
DrForester said:
Subtitles on Japanese DVD's is rare. Once in awhile you'll get an anime series that has English subs on the DVD release in Japan (though, I can't think of any in the last few years). Studio Ghibli is the only company that puts subtitles on the DVD's regularly, nearly all of their movie DVD's have English subs, and usually a dub, if one has been made.
Yeah, I'm aware English subtitles would be rare for Japanese films and stuff, just like we wouldn't expect to see Japanese subtitles on our movies. I'm thinking Ghibli stuff have English subtitles and/or soundtracks because they're released by Buena Vista/Disney.

My question was more about whether its normal to not have any subtitles at all - not even have Japanese subtitles, like what Gainax did with the EVA 1.01 DVD, or whether it's just Gainax who thought they were too good to bother.

Or was your answer already in regard to that?
 
God's Beard said:
I'd rather have some elaboration on the First/Second impact time period about Gehrin/early Nerv with young Misato/Gendo/the Akagis etc. than a remake
sequel
, but I guess you need the Freudian triplets to please your audience. I still haven't seen the first rebuild movie, so I'm not complaining about more eva, though. I just don't think the first half of eva holds up nearly as well as most of the second, with the heavier character development.

I can't believe I still remember everything about the story, though, considering I've barely watched any of it for a good 7-8 years.
You really should watch the first rebuild movie. What is there to explain about the early Nerv time line?

edit: horrible spelling :/.
 
Finally some trailer for 2, I guess they'll start more with the parallel universe/alternative telling from this point forward. Since they have the other units and that one girl in the trailer, not to mention the Lilith-looking thing at the moon with SELEE's mask, and the other one in NERV with Sachiel's mask.

And

ASUKA!


God's Beard said:
I guess you need the Freudian triplets to please your audience. I still haven't seen the first rebuild movie, so I'm not complaining about more eva, though. I just don't think the first half of eva holds up nearly as well as most of the second, with the heavier character development.
I thought that the first part of the series was great, and a lot of the comedy in it is understated and overshadowed by the last parts of it. The whole psychological aspect imo could be interpreted in other ways, but I don't get caught up on it, since the EoE pretty much welcomes the craziness with insanity :lol and of course you get the Cabala stuff

I don't thing that Rebuild will be headed in that direction just yet though. It may actually end in some kind of happy ending ... and if that's the case, Anno will get a fresh batch of death threats no problem :D
 
hateradio said:
I don't thing that Rebuild will be headed in that direction just yet though. It may actually end in some kind of happy ending ... and if that's the case, Anno will get a fresh batch of death threats no problem :D

Then he'll just do The End of the Rebuild of Evangelion.
 
hirokazu said:
Yeah, I'm aware English subtitles would be rare for Japanese films and stuff, just like we wouldn't expect to see Japanese subtitles on our movies. I'm thinking Ghibli stuff have English subtitles and/or soundtracks because they're released by Buena Vista/Disney.

My question was more about whether its normal to not have any subtitles at all - not even have Japanese subtitles, like what Gainax did with the EVA 1.01 DVD, or whether it's just Gainax who thought they were too good to bother.

Or was your answer already in regard to that?

It's not a common practice to include subtitles on Japanese anime DVDs at all. For some reason the anime industry wants to pretend that deaf people do not exist in Japan.
 
God's Beard said:
I'd rather have some elaboration on the First/Second impact time period about Gehrin/early Nerv with young Misato/Gendo/the Akagis etc. than a remake
sequel
, but I guess you need the Freudian triplets to please your audience. I still haven't seen the first rebuild movie, so I'm not complaining about more eva, though. I just don't think the first half of eva holds up nearly as well as most of the second, with the heavier character development.

I can't believe I still remember everything about the story, though, considering I've barelly watched any of it for a good 7-8 years.

I actually like the first half of Evangelion way more than the second half.
 
I haven't watched the series in over a decade...so can someone explain something?

What are the angels/adam/lilith exactly and what's their purpose?
are they TEH ALIENZ? :P
 
jett said:
I haven't watched the series in over a decade...so can someone explain something?

What are the angels/adam/lilith exactly and what's their purpose?
are they TEH ALIENZ? :P

It's been like 5 years since I last saw the show, but here's what I remember.

Adam created the angels, Lillith created humans. The angels are basically pissed at humans because it was supposed to be their planet, but the humans took over. So now the angels want to kill everyone by triggering 3rd impact.

IIRC, 3rd impact is caused whenever Adam/an Eva/an angel fuses with Lillith, and the event is basically the destruction of all life on earth. Whoever fused wtih Lillith gets to control what happens next, so if the angels had their way, they would basically remake the earth in their image.
 
what ever happened with the live action films anyone know??

Hmm, actually I found this:

In an Evangelion panel at the Ohayocon anime convention in Columbus Ohio on January 30th [09], ADV director Matt Greenfield announced that several U.S. studios are competing for final rights to the project, meaning that actual production should begin soon. The delay on the project is due largely to the Transformers movie: The studios wanted to make sure that a “giant robot” movie would appeal to an American audience. The negotiations between the U.S. studios and Gainax are being handled by Joseph Cho, who assisted in the production of “Appleseed: Ex Machina”, an animated film based on the Appleseed series, so Mr. Cho has previous experience in dealing with studio types.

Matt Greenfield estimates that an official announcement, including naming the studio, the director, and perhaps casting information, would be made within the next 9 months.

I dunno what to think about waiting for Transformers as the Eva movie barometer. Action is only a small part of the appeal of the Eva license.
 
Blader5489 said:
It's been like 5 years since I last saw the show, but here's what I remember.

Adam created the angels, Lillith created humans. The angels are basically pissed at humans because it was supposed to be their planet, but the humans took over. So now the angels want to kill everyone by triggering 3rd impact.

IIRC, 3rd impact is caused whenever Adam/an Eva/an angel fuses with Lillith, and the event is basically the destruction of all life on earth. Whoever fused wtih Lillith gets to control what happens next, so if the angels had their way, they would basically remake the earth in their image.



Okay...weird, but ok :P Do we know why do they create humans, and how is it that humans take over?

Rocket Punch said:
what ever happened with the live action films anyone know??

Hmm, actually I found this:



I dunno what to think about waiting for Transformers as the Eva movie barometer. Action is only a small part of the appeal of the Eva license.

This movie is never coming out.
 
Zoe said:
When did they start spelling Evangelion with a ヲ?
Since they started the Rebuild movies. They also replaced エ with ヱ. It only applies to the new movies and related merchandise though.

I was going to say HEY GUYS, DIRECT FEED TRAILER IS ON YOUTUBE!!! :0 :0 :0 But I see that's already been mentioned.
 
Rocket Punch said:
what ever happened with the live action films anyone know??
Given the state that ADV is in, that they can't even afford to secure the rights to the new movies, it's pretty much in the can.

I'd take these new movies from Gainax over an ADV live action any day. Ooooh yeah!

Cranehand2ndComing said:
*drool*

and I dig the Utada version of Fly Me To The Moon
That song's been around since one of her really early Jpop singles :P Except they recycled the music a bit to use for the Eva 1.0 trailer and now the 2.0 trailer.
 
duckroll said:
It's not a common practice to include subtitles on Japanese anime DVDs at all. For some reason the anime industry wants to pretend that deaf people do not exist in Japan.
Lets just say the anime industry can't hear the complaints.


Also I hope they don't throw Askua away too much. It seems like she's going to be down played. I still am curious where the hell this new girl fits in. I mean, what charter does the eva story need?
 
Rocket Punch said:
I dunno what to think about waiting for Transformers as the Eva movie barometer. Action is only a small part of the appeal of the Eva license.
And besides, Eva is to mecha anime what Watchmen is to comic books. The real meat of the story would never fly very well with critics or the moviegoing public at large. They will either do a faithful adaptation and it will bomb like crazy or they'll do a Fox to it and change it completely and then it'll still probably flop.
 
If they did the live action movie soon though, Shia LeBoeuf could do the perfect Shinji.

Him signing on to do it would also help it get some funding and get it fast tracked.

*runs*
 
polyh3dron said:
If they did the live action movie soon though, Shia LeBoeuf could do the perfect Shinji.

Him signing on to do it would also help it get some funding and get it fast tracked.

*runs*


:lol
 
Basch said:
No wonder we disagree so much. You favor trash. :lol jk

Says the guy who likes Heroes. =P

I didn't say the first half was "better," I just like it more. It's a lot more fun and entertaining to watch than the 2nd half of the show. It's also a hell of a lot less tedious than the 2nd half.
 
Wait wait wait....no hold on, those Eva explanations are kind of off a little from what I remember.

Adam is the first form of Life on the planet, or something along those lines. From Adam, Lilith is born, as are the other Angels who all for some reason go into hiding/hibernation etc.. who knows, maybe the Ice Age...did something I don't know.

Anyway, so Adam is the first Angel and Lilith is the 2nd Angel. That's why the attacks start with the 3rd Angel. The Geofront is basically the Garden of Eden, or at least metaphorically implied to be.

Anyway, so Lilith and Adam are seemingly extremely similar in almost every way. They seem to share all the same properties etc..

Anyway Lilith is the first (and only) Angel to have it's own offspring, that offspring were Humans (the lilim).

So anyway Second Impact happened because Humans found Adam in the antarctic, he was presumably frozen/sleeping/hibernating/in stasis whatever. They tried to turn Adam in an embrionic state, to control him, sample him, recreate him etc.. or whatever else they wanted to do. Adam awakens during this process and is pissed off, extends his AT field at full power across the planet which cancels out the much weaker AT fields of humans, hence a shitload of the world population dies. However the process is a success and Adam is transformed into an embrio.

However anybody born close to or on this date is for whatever reason deemed "innocent" or rather free of "original sin" (perhaps as they had nothing to do with the Adam thing, clean start for a new generation vibe or whatever), this is why only 14 year old children can pilot the EVAs. At least this is what is implied anyway.

Anyway Angels begin to awaken 1 by 1 and move towards the geofront as they wish to be reunited with Adam so that they may control what happens and remake the world as they see fit (presumably). It can logically be assumed that Angels believe Lilith to be Adam from a distance due to their similar nature, thus why Kaworu only realises when he is right in front of Lilith that it is not Adam. Although later on they retrieve Adam in embrionic form from Antarctica and he is also kept within the geofront.

EVA's are designed based on the genetic material from Adam, but Eva 01 is different as it is based on Lilith. However although they can copy Adam's genes, there is a missing piece of the puzzle to create a lifeform, a soul. In the initial activation experiments with prototypes the Soul and consciousness of the user is absorbed into the EVA, thus giving it substance.

This was unknown to Humans until they tried the experiments. Yui Ikari, was lost in the activation experiment of what would become EVA Unit 01. Thus her Soul and Consciousness exist inside the EVA. This is why only her son Shinji, or her clone Rei the "other her" can pilot Unit 01.

Asuka's mother was also involved in a similar experiment however it the effect was stopped before completion and her body was saved, but a piece of her was missing, her soul, or part of her mind or both were absorbed into what would become Eva Unit 02. This is why her mother goes crazy and why Asuka see's her mother in Eva 02.

It's unknown who's soul resides in Unit 00, but it has been speculated that the body of Ritsuko's mother was used for it's activation, mainly due to the fact she was dead and the fact that Unit 00 goes berserk and seems to be targeting Gendo specifically during it's activation experiments.

Also, Rei is suspected to be a combination of genes from Lilith and Yui Ikari. While Kaworu is made from Adam and who know's genes.

So anyway SEELE, with foreknowledge from the Dead Sea scrolls believe that humanity has reached it's evolutionary apex and that the only way to advance humanity is by creating one singular consciousness for all of humanity, in otherwords move on to a higher plane of existence as a singular being. They wish to manipulate events to achieve this, however they wish to control the world that is created afterwards, in other words direct the flow of human evolution to how they see fit, they wish to be the dominant consciousness.

Gendo also wishes to be in control of it as he believes that by merging all of humanity and the EVA's that he can be reunited with Yui who resides inside EVA Unit 01. However it is Shinji who is given final control by Rei when she instigates the 3rd impact by merging with Lilith.

So the 3rd impact would basically be every human on the planet having their AT fields shut down so that all of their souls and consciousness merge together and they lose their physical bodies, at the same time they will merge with Adam/Lilith the originator of this, who will control what happens next, however whoever merges with Adam/Lilith is the one who control's the flow.

That's about all I can remember, hope it makes sense.
 
Most of Funi's dubs just sound like crap to me, so I was hopping most of the original cast would return. At least Shinji, Misato, and Rei. W/E I've already watched it in Japanese so I'll just continue with that.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Most of Funi's dubs just sound like crap to me, so I was hopping most of the original cast would return. At least Shinji, Misato, and Rei. W/E I've already watched it in Japanese so I'll just continue with that.
Funimation is good in my book, if just for FMA. Though I haven't heard any of their recent stuff or much dub in general lately.
Blader5489 said:
The best part of this news is that Mike McFarland, who directed the FMA dub, will be directing this too. Can't wait.
Sweet.
hateradio said:
It wasn't like the Original dub was that great anyways.
From my recent viewing, I found the dub to be fairly good. It's uneven, but the main characters do a pretty good job. The voice acting gets progressively better, especially towards the end.
 
hateradio said:
It wasn't like the Original dub was that great anyways.

I liked most of the principle cast's VAs, actually.

I think I'll rather miss the Gendo and Rei VAs in particular - for some of them, they were kind of uneven but they got better and better as time went on. By EoE I think most of them were turning in pretty stellar work. I didn't like Tiffany Grant's Asuka at first, but she really nailed the "don't wanna die" scene.
 
JayDubya said:
I think I'll rather miss the Gendo and Rei VAs in particular.

The new Gendo also did Gendo in the English Director's Cut episodes. I don't think he was too bad in them.
 
B.K. said:
The new Gendo also did Gendo in the English Director's Cut episodes. I don't think he was too bad in them.

(!)

Well then maybe I won't miss him because I didn't notice a difference. I certainly noticed that Kaworu had been replaced, and blessedly so.

I just noticed the over a month old post about the lore, and I really want to address some of that - probably tomorrow, though.
 
B.K. said:
The new Gendo also did Gendo in the English Director's Cut episodes. I don't think he was too bad in them.
He wasn't bad, but the change was sad. :(
JayDubya said:
I liked most of the principle cast's VAs, actually.

I think I'll rather miss the Gendo and Rei VAs in particular - for some of them, they were kind of uneven but they got better and better as time went on. By EoE I think most of them were turning in pretty stellar work. I didn't like Tiffany Grant's Asuka at first, but she really nailed the "don't wanna die" scene.
Yeah, she definitely improved the most throughout the show.
 
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