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Recommend me a martial art for self defense?

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The only one I'd recommend really is muay thai, as it not only teaches you striking with all of your body but also some rudimentary grappling skills via clinch work. Any fighting style that ignores your hands should be avoided by default as they're useless outside of rule-based fights (unless you strike first). Also, muay thai conditions your body like nothing else. It's intense stuff.

But I don't recommend learning a martial art for "self defence" or taking dedicated "self defence" classes. If you learn a fighting style just for the sake of learning it, then you learn how to defend yourself by default. If you learn a fighting style purely to "defend yourself" then you're training yourself for specific events and will probably freeze up trying to remember what patterns or motions to follow if/when that specific event arises. Just learn how to fight, and everything will follow from there.

That and basic common sense: if you live in the USA and get into a fight, then avoid confrontation. It's pretty hard to parry a bullet.
 
You know, it's beyond a cliche at this point but Bruce Lee really for all his arrogance was quite brilliant. Dana White (UFC CEO) calls him the modern day father of MMA for not believing in styles. Chinese styles versus Korean styles versus Japanese versus Western styles. He just took all of it applied, and to me this is the most sensible thing that has been said about the subject.
For all the good things Martial Arts bring it's still grounded in a lot of cultist behavior. Not all cultist behavior is evil or out of malice, but it's removed from rational thinking taking a biased fixed stance. So cross-training.
MMA has been fascinating when watching a grappler specialist versus a striker specialist or a take-down specialist. Power vs speed, flexibility versus endurance, iron chin versus mental toughness. There is so many amazing factors that the whole idea of subscribing to a "best" system, is not something I believe in anymore.
So cross-train. If you can join a gym with multiple disciplines that should be great for you. I would suggest for the first years perhaps only dabbling in one (possibly two) things to get a good basic understanding.
But with such a high dropout rate, the chance of people sticking with it is low.


At my fight gym, every day we see new young men come in. Buff, tattooed and with military cut hair, and 90% of them give up within the first month. The people who seem to stick are the people who look anything but fighters. the nerds, the casuals, the out-of-shape person transforming their lives. It seems that having the same skill for committing to something in other aspects of life carries over to the martial arts, as this is yet another thing that requires 10,000 hours of mastery.
So if my first suggestion to you is to cross train, my second suggestion to you is to put in the 10,000 hours to get good, and to stick with something for that amount of time you will need to have fun. Even if you take a discipline that some people feel has a more limited application in self-defense, I think you putting that many more hours into it will outshine your grinding in a more useful, but less fun discipline. It's simply too much work and sacrifice if you are not having fun.



Boxing, Judo, BJJ, Thai Boxing, Greco-Roman Wrestling, Sambo. You can't go wrong with any of these.
I do not think any of these disciplines will guarantee victory. The name of a street fight is that its as likely/unlikely to result in victory as the terms allow. For one it depends on the strength and martial ability of the person(s) your fighting. Secondly I have not personally seen any art that really can guarantee success against multiple assailants, and it is my understanding that most street fights involve more than two people - Usually a group of people jumping a single or fewer persons.
Then there is the situation of weapons. Krav Maga is the only one that is going to teach you how to disarm, though some arts like the stick-based Filipino arts can teach certain knives disarmament techniques as well.

Also, depending on country, even defending yourself might result in a law suit under the guise of excessive force. A friend of mine who is a lawyer have told me about cases were an aggressor sued a defender under the pretense that he was using martial arts as an excessive way which caused unnatural injuries even in the face of self-defense. Obviously it's a joke, but it is something to keep in mind and simply another reason to run instead of fighting if you can avoid it. You might actually go to jail, or get an assault charge even if you did nothing wrong but defend yourself. "Martial Arts at the end of the day means, honestly expressing yourself" is another great quote from Bruce Lee, and I think it holds true.

When I spar with someone I feel I get to know a person in ways words can't express. You get to see a lot of a persons character based on how they fight. Are they aggressive, passive? Are they are sore loser or a good winner? do they have honor and humility or are they brass and arrogant? you get to see their sense of competition, inner drive and how they work under intense physical stress.
It's a whole different way at looking at human beings. We give so much precedent to how we carry ourselves verbally. your out of the game if you can't verbally explain yourself, but in fighting, like other arts you get the see something truthful about a person and their character. That is why you must find the martial art that speaks to your temperament, philosophy and idea. Don't fear so much that you are picking the wrong thing. As corny as it is it really is a way of life. You don't have to sit under the bodhi tree tree meditating until your levitate, I just think there is no way that this won't change you.

The whole way I look at strength, at self-reliance and why bad things happens to me, got turned upside down when I started martial arts. Every time I went to class I failed. The first couple of years was just a blur of getting submitted, dominated, bruises and injuries with little gain. But then I realized that all this was not failures. All these things were making me stronger and one day I was the one who could defend myself, and had gotten my own personal philosophy and martial arts game and style, but perhaps most importantly, being able to carry it on. That's ultimately what I think it's all about. I am not sure if a lot of this rambling has much to do with the idea of what is the best self-defense. I think the best self-defense is to cross train, and I think the best self-defense is to put in the amount of work it will take to achieve really good results and due to this you have to explore all the options for myself.
I think in time that you will find that it is actually a blessing. that the answer is not fixed, it's simply your discovery of it that is the answer.
 
A serious Tae Kwon Do background is a good start. Not the middle America TKD bullshit; a good studio with real discipline. Don't let its bastardization prejudice you from it; TKD is very good at its core.

The strikes are absolutely vicious. Very good at dispatching multiple attackers.
 
Krav Maga

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Very simple attack and defend moves that are designed to put down someone or multiple people quick


I have been doing this for 3 years and the shit u learn in this is much better than any other martial art self defence wise

It's quick...it's dirty at times but it's realistic and it also does a better job of mentally preparing you

Street fighting is dirty...what's more dirty than kicking someone in the nuts multiple times then snapping their wrist and pushing the bone back Into them?
 
I recommend both Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu, together.

Muay thai for fending off attackers standing up, then JJ in case someone takes you to the ground.

The movie stereotype that singular punches in the face are the most effective way to win a real fight is just that -- a movie trope. Yeah, there are stories and I'm sure even a few gaffers will come in with like "Yeah well I knocked a guy out in one shot," well that's great, but it doesn't happen often at all. If it's one-on-one, you're gonna end up rolling around on the ground more often than not.

Moreover, when you do learn these martial arts, you're probably not going to win a hypothetical fight with a flashy one-shot move or easily roll somebody up in the sweetest arm-bar of all time. Getting out of a real fight can quite possibly be a dirty, difficult, non-highlight-reel affair.
Be prepared for that.

Edit: I don't know much about this Krav Maga that people are recommending, but it sounds like a nice piece of the puzzle too.
 
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Muay Thai. It's basically boxing but with kicks, knees and elbows but the stance leaves you way open for a takedown so you might want to learn some wrestling and bjj while you're at it. Most mma gyms have all three.

+ the ruthless mt clinch
 
Krav covers pretty much all positions and if your not particularly good in an area you simply go mike Tyson style and bite into their jugular ....it's a very flexible but teaches you to expect the unexpected and deliver unexpected

There is nothing off the table if your defending for your life
 
The only one I'd learn is kendo, but that's pretty useless as self defense, lol. It's so cool, though!
 
I do Wing Chun but I have no idea if it applies well to real life situations ...

It definitely does.finger jab or chop to the throat, fingers in the eyes, Dim Gerk to the knee, straight punch directly to the sternum. The problem is that you have to place them just right, which can be hard.

I would recommend a mix of striking and grappling. Boxing or muay thai for striking, probably, and then BJJ or maybe just good ol' fashioned wrasslin' for grappling.
 
I do Wing Chun but I have no idea if it applies well to real life situations so... I guess that Krav Maga thing?

There are certain parts of Wing Chun that are really effective. But thats the same for most martial arts. I found the most useful techniques in Wing Chun for me were throwing away an opponent who grabs you from behind, rolling kicks while on your back on the ground, and just improved understanding of body mechanics in general. That last part really added benefit to previous and subsequent martial arts I'd studied too. Put more power into kicks and punches and greater leverage into grapples and throws.

Edit: Also the main obstacle to effective self defense is ones own fear of getting hit. I find that most martial arts classes don't focus how to take a hit, or on outlining just how resilient the human body is. The best teacher I ever had constantly drilled into us "This person is trying to kill you! Don't be afraid! Get viscious! Get brutal!"
Though he was also a bit of a shady character and once told us in detail how to dispose of a body if we ever accidentally kill someone.
 
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But seriously, some good recommendations here. Just stay away from Jiu Jitsu

My mom, over the course of her life, was able to take out four different attackers (not all at once, but all fully grown men) with two years of Jiu Jitsu from high school. So I wouldn't completely discount it.
 
Martial arts will give you a VERY small edge in a street fight.

Agreed. Basically, Martial Arts should be a fun and life-enriching hobby... either to condition yourself, connection with community or culture, or sport... but if you're trying to protect yourself there are better uses of your time, money, and effort.

If you have a professional kind of job, I'd avoid sparring with striking unless you don't mind going around the office with a black eye every other month.
 
Thats dirty fighting though. Might as well start biting the person and kicking his balls.

If I'm being attacked for no reason you better believe I'll kick the sucker in the balls to drop him quick and I boxed in my teens. "Dirty fighting" lol
 
If you are going to go toe to toe with one person then I'd recommend MMA. Sure boxing, Muay Thai and BJJ are good but MMA basically gives you the most effective parts of each of these as well as a good sense as to whether you are over committing or not. You use a lot of boxing techniques for example but throw them in a way as to make it easy to avoid getting grabbed or taken down.

Things like leg kicks, head kicks, clinch fighting, take downs, etc are going to give you a huge advantage over a random person who wants to have a go.

If you are looking at doing whatever it takes to defend yourself (that means possibly multiple attackers and emphasizing getting away over going toe to toe) then Krav Maga, Systema or something like that seems like the best option. They practice a lot of defense, quick attacks giving you time to finish or get away, fighting in different situations, defending against weapons, etc.

In my experience Krav Maga and the like doesn't stand up very well against MMA, though. Not is a straight up brawl where two people face of in a park or something like that.
 
If you're in a street fight, any bets that you'll follow an honor code of martial arts is off.

I will be running. If I am caught, I will be biting, gouging, groin punching and doing anything I need to do to not die.
 
Martial arts will give you a VERY small edge in a street fight. I have done multiple martial arts for about 10 years now, and not the board breaking kind. And I can tell you with 100% confidence that if I was confronted I would run every time, unless someone I care about was being threatened.

If after 1-2 years of training you get into a fight, the odds are about 50-50 on who will win and both of you are getting fucked up.

Remember a few things, you don't know with how many people the other guy is there with. You don't know how drugged up the other person is. You don't know what weapons he has. You don't have control over your surroundings or the people standing close to you.

Martial arts will give you an edge in the worst case, but it should NEVER be taken as a given that you will be able to defend yourself.


all of this is just.. wrong. what kind of martial arts were you doing? if you are learning something like wing chung or mantis style, then yes, its ineffective. if you learn something practical and VERY effective, like jiu jitsu you will definitely be able to learn how to defend yourself. and as for you OP i think you should take jiu jitsu,it's what i do ;) but a lot of schools can get a bit pricy. you subdue someone without hurting them badly. the things with learning how to strike is, while it looks cooler, you can end up really hurting someone or even killing them in a street fight. shewt, its not uncommon for someone to get a concussion in the gym. but i mean how many times do you have to whoop someones ass in the street? also dont do krav maga or whatever its called. its total gimmick shit
 
Boxing is a great foundation. Like anything else though, you have to dedicate real time to really be good at it. Grappling and wrestling are important, most fights end up having that.

For martial arts Kyokushin is non-profit and a very practical, effective fighting style.
 
near impossible to find a legit Taekwondo place, 99% are all breaking boards and pizza parties
I like to think I found one here in Australia. No crap at all. Which is nice

Though admittedly there is board breaking when you go for you blackbelt to prove you can do certain techniques proficiently... but that takes years to get to. And you're not allowed to practise with them before then. Just a one off thing
 
The benefits boxing has on your coordination with footwork, range, timing and just the overall boost in ability is undeniable.
 
Wrestling has served me well. It's good for defense. You can negate a threat without fucking them or yourself up. As long as they don't have a friend that will stomp you on the ground. You can just wrap up the other guy until it gets broken up. You could really hurt someone if you wanted to, but it's pretty unnecessary.
 
near impossible to find a legit Taekwondo place, 99% are all breaking boards and pizza parties


lmao when i was about 7 i did taekwondo. i moved up belts so quick and with ease and not because i was good either. i skipped out on one of the belt tests cause i was getting lazy and when i went the next time a baby was a belt higher than me. a fucking baby. im serious this kid was like 4 and they even got him to walk around and like he had his thumbs in his belt walking around with authority. i quit after that. the only cool thing was one of the black belts was scorpion in one of the mortal kombats and he was in a couple of movies and shows in the early 90's
 
Taekwondo is actually probably the best solution, albeit the most time consuming, that is if you find a good, legit studio where the instructors really know what they're doing. Which is rare. So I guess I'd recommend taking up boxing. It's simple and very effective. Keep in mind, it'll be easy to learn, and hard to master. And always be prepared for an ass-kicking.
Most altercations don't provide you with the space for Taekwondo.
 
Boxing
Krav Maga
Arnis / Eskrima / Kali

Stay away from:
Aikido (studied this, had fun but not gonna use it in self-defense situations)
 
I feel like boxing would be one of the better self defense martial arts. Sure you can be flashy and do some judo chop or you can do some quick and precise jabs and be done with it. Most efficient method imo.
 
all of this is just.. wrong. what kind of martial arts were you doing? if you are learning something like wing chung or mantis style, then yes, its ineffective. if you learn something practical and VERY effective, like jiu jitsu you will definitely be able to learn how to defend yourself. and as for you OP i think you should take jiu jitsu,it's what i do ;) but a lot of schools can get a bit pricy. you subdue someone without hurting them badly. the things with learning how to strike is, while it looks cooler, you can end up really hurting someone or even killing them in a street fight. shewt, its not uncommon for someone to get a concussion in the gym. but i mean how many times do you have to whoop someones ass in the street? also dont do krav maga or whatever its called. its total gimmick shit

a streetfight has nothing to do with honor and it shouldn't matter here. its a life or deathsituation. best thing is to avoid it if you can.

so, how do you subdue someone in a one on one?
you would have to choke him out or stop the bloodflow to the brain.
you need atleast 30 seconds for that while you both are probably on the ground.
what do you do if his buddy steps in and kicks your face, stabs you with a knife or smashes your back with a baseballbat? or the agravator himself pulls a knife?

jiu jiutsu in a streetfight brings many other dangers.
 
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