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[Half and half]

I see Indian Americans--through grit, hard work and determination--have been upgraded to "white" status!

Congratulations

Ahaha!

 

[Brinbe]

Haha wow. So MSNBC and Fox cut off almost every minority speaker, and you guys don't see how that's a wrong? Really? Even if the reason is to shove advertisements in because "no one gives a shit about hearing these people talk" that's pretty fucking disgusting.

But hey, as long as Fox did it too right?

Christ almighty, they weren't shown because they're minorities, it's because they're not "primetime" speakers. The likes of Haley/Santorum/Romney/Christie were the attractions of the night and got that coverage. There's nothing more to it. Every station, including PBS didn't bother showing everything. And if people wanted to watch it all, just tune to C-Span.

 

[Enzom21]

Mediaite has the breakdown


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-falsely-accused-of-purposely-omitting-minority-republican-speeches/

So another faux outrage thread where Republicans tell us silly minorities what to be offended by.

 

[Clevinger]

Haha wow. So MSNBC and Fox cut off almost every minority speaker, and you guys don't see how that's a wrong? Really? Even if the reason is to shove advertisements in because "no one gives a shit about hearing these people talk" that's pretty fucking disgusting.

But hey, as long as Fox did it too right?

Do me a favor. Watch all of today's coverage on MSNBC or Fox of the convention. Today's lineup is almost all white. Then come back and let me know how much they're both discriminating against white people, because they are undoubtedly going to cut most or all of the unimportant speakers out again.

 

[Cipherr]

I don't think it invalidates this thread one bit
This thread is about MSNBC not Fox

In case you missed it, everyone noticed that you want to have a slanted irrelevant conversation in a bubble, but grown folks aren't interested in that. So the discussion will include comparisons to other stations, and touch on the popularity and reasons why the other speakers weren't shown, whether you like it or not.

Christ almighty, they weren't shown because they're minorities, it's because they're not "primetime" speakers. The likes of Haley/Santorum/Romney/Christie were the attractions of the night and got that coverage. There's nothing more to it. Every station, including PBS didn't bother showing everything. And if people wanted to watch it all, just tune to C-Span.

It doesn't get much more clear than this. Any other time these guys are shouting "WHY DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS ASSUME RACISM RIGHT OFF THE BAT!". But this time folks sit back and observe the situation with a level head and now they have a problem with it.

 

[Red Blaster]

Pretty much. Here is a thread proof positive for all the doubters out there who deny a heavy liberal bias and troll effect here on GAF. A clear thread simply pointing out discrimination by a national news channel and the hive reacts by continuing to insult the GOP, the convention and completely ignore the point of the thread.

Its not even surprising but perhaps it takes political season for the lunacy to take stage for others to finally notice it.

i'm sorry your normative reality is constantly threatened around these parts

here's more appropriate forum for you

http://www.rr-bb.com/

 

[polyh3dron]

I don't think it invalidates this thread one bit
This thread is about MSNBC not Fox

Fox News, being the arm of the GOP that it is, is likely to show the speeches that are important at this convention, from people who are "important" in the party, so to speak. If these speeches didn't pass Fox's standards for notability when they practically receive their programming orders right from the party, how can you rage @ MSNBC for not showing the same speeches?

 

[ConfusingJazz]

The charge should be that MSNBC showed only the headliners, not MSNBC cut the minorities.

 

[Mercury Fred]

Really?

Republicans should be thankful their hate rally is getting any coverage anywhere at all.

 

[mavs]

So who did air those speeches then?

 

[polyh3dron]

Pretty much. Here is a thread proof positive for all the doubters out there who deny a heavy liberal bias and troll effect here on GAF. A clear thread simply pointing out discrimination by a national news channel and the hive reacts by continuing to insult the GOP, the convention and completely ignore the point of the thread.

Its not even surprising but perhaps it takes political season for the lunacy to take stage for others to finally notice it.

really? because the only lunacy I see here is from your posts and Schattenjagger's.

 

[LM4sure]

Msnbc will probably cut out Rubio when he introduces Romney. Just cut right to Romney. Typical.

 

[SteveWinwood]

So poligaf was moved so offtopic as a whole could just be the new poligaf. I get it now.

 

[Clevinger]

Msnbc will probably cut out Rubio when he introduces Romney. Just cut right to Romney. Typical.

Precognitive outrage. I like it.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Christ almighty, they weren't shown because they're minorities, it's because they're not "primetime" speakers. The likes of Haley/Santorum/Romney/Christie were the attractions of the night and got that coverage. There's nothing more to it. Every station, including PBS didn't bother showing everything. And if people wanted to watch it all, just tune to C-Span.

As a broadcaster, you make editorial decisions based on who is relevant, and you create segments around that.

But the reason wasn't to shove ads in there. They were doing other things. What exactly is the problem here? Should their speeches get aired only because they're minorities? How insulting would that be?

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

Honestly, the problem is that MSNBC only covered the Headliners for the night, they didn't cover the opening acts. If the RNC wanted to showcase minority participation in the Republican Party, don't have the two main speeches of the night be Ann Romney and Chris Christie.

 

[kirblar]

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

It's not MSNBC's job to try and do PR for the GOP.

 

[MThanded]

I was switching between FOX, MSNBC and CNN. ALL stations seemed to be skipping speakers. Is there outrage for these other stations too?

 

[HAL_Laboratory]

Can we finally just build a megalopolis in Montana with a Chic-fil-A the size of ten Wal Marts? It's simple, just give every conservative family an SUV and a couple guns, then build a huge fence around the whole thing. Problem solved. Okay... maybe extend it out a couple hundred miles for all the rural types that want to continue living a "country" lifestyle. Then send all the Republicans and right-wing media there to live out the remainder of their lives together, completely cut off from the rest of the world. This is the last generation of them anyway. It's almost 2013. Within the next century everyone will be the same color and the talking heads will finally be forced into producing something other than archaic negativity.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

This thread sucks. Who the hell started this thread?
I bought into the Drudge headlines and outrage from the right over MSNBC's treatment of the RNC only to find out even Fox News did the same thing. Embarassing.
Two lessons:
1. Don't post without verifying first.
2. Don't watch cable news if you expect actual coverage of the convention.
and 3. Mia Love is the next big thing - and 4. she's hot.

 

[KHarvey16]

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

Or maybe minorities aren't popular among the republican party for reasons other than their speeches not being broadcast on tv. Just a thought.

Quantify the numbers here. How many lesser known white people speeches were aired?

 

[Fenderputty]

disgusting but nobody will care since it's not LAWL FAUX NEWS



Oh, Fox has done this already?

Why are you defending Fox News? Both MSNBC and Fox News are cable news agencies and pander to both of their bases. Neither is better than the other.

 

[Buddha Beam]

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

Again, it says they cut away from Caucasian speakers, too. Surprise, surprise – they only gave full coverage to the major speakers. Barack Obama, by the way, WAS considered a major speaker in 2004... hence why, if memory serves, he had a prime speaking slot for the 2004 DNC.

This just isn't an issue. If ANYTHING is an issue, you should be asking yourself why these shafted minority speakers don't merit a more prominent speaking position within the RNC.

 

[akira28]

It's not MSNBC's job to try and do PR for the GOP.

No way in fuck MSNBC is going to provide better GOP convention coverage than Fox. I couldn't even see them trying for that.

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

For your Obama example, the difference is the Dems wanted to hype Obama in particular. Not to demonstrate that they really did have black friends.

And as far as general perceptions go. The relationship of the GOP with minority communities are not properly reflected or represented by the odd Black Republican, or small circle of bootstrapping Cuban supporters. There is a lot of enmity between groups, and even between communities and the minority GOP members. And it's not just a knee-jerk "sell-out" reaction. There is some provocation and disunity going on with that. Just look at Allen West, or the other guy who is basically disliked by much of the CBC who initially invited him to join.

 

[Clevinger]

And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

Obama was the keynote speaker.

 

[Mengy]

PBS is the only answer

Yeah, I watched it on PBS and saw all the speakers. They cut a few off here and there for commentary but they at least showed a bit of everyone.

 

[fallagin]

You guys, nikki haley is not a "traditional" minority, so of course she isn't considered. Think with your mind brains people.

 

[HAL_Laboratory]

PBS rocked the whole thing, it was legendary.

 

[CharlieDigital]

So how long are the conservatives going to hold onto this faux outrage?

 

[Kettch]

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

Yes, where would Obama be today if stations hadn't aired his obscure keynote speech at the 2004 DNC.

EDIT: Crap, didn't mean to pile on. Will teach me not to delay in posting.

 

[eznark]

This thread sucks. Who the hell started this thread?
I bought into the Drudge headlines and outrage from the right over MSNBC's treatment of the RNC only to find out even Fox News did the same thing. Embarassing.
Two lessons:
1. Don't post without verifying first.
2. Don't watch cable news if you expect actual coverage of the convention.
and 3. Mia Love is the next big thing - and 4. she's hot.

Isn't she down like 18 points in a congressional race? Is she the next big thing at the PTA?

 

[Half and half]

This thread sucks. Who the hell started this thread?
I bought into the Drudge headlines and outrage from the right over MSNBC's treatment of the RNC only to find out even Fox News did the same thing. Embarassing.
Two lessons:
1. Don't post without verifying first.
2. Don't watch cable news if you expect actual coverage of the convention.
and 3. Mia Love is the next big thing - and 4. she's hot.

Props.

 

[Clevinger]

This thread sucks. Who the hell started this thread?
I bought into the Drudge headlines and outrage from the right over MSNBC's treatment of the RNC only to find out even Fox News did the same thing. Embarassing.
Two lessons:
1. Don't post without verifying first.
2. Don't watch cable news if you expect actual coverage of the convention.
and 3. Mia Love is the next big thing - and 4. she's hot.

We all make mistakes.

 

[Owzers]

No way in fuck MSNBC is going to provide better GOP convention coverage than Fox. I couldn't even see them trying for that.

I watch MSNBC's coverage for counterpoints/discussion, i don't expect them to sacrifice ad time to show all the lesser known speakers like i don't expect Spike TV to air the Konami E3 press conference. Some other network can do that if they want, and like it's been said, Fox chose not to as well.

 

[mavs]

Covering minorities at the RNC is extremely important. Not only because of the general perception of the party's relationship with minority communities, but more importantly, for minorities to understand where representatives of their backgrounds stand on the issues.

Of course they're not as well known as some of their contemporaries. But that didn't stop these channels from airing speeches made by lesser known caucasian speakers. And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

All that's left to say is that if MSNBC actually aired those speeches, there would be a thread about Fox cutting them out, without any of the gross justifications being thrown around as they are now.

It's possible to cover their speeches without airing them. In fact the vast majority of the electorate will learn about these speakers from prime-time summaries and snippets of their most memorable lines, as well as written reports.

Obama is not president today because everyone who voted in 2008 actually watched his 2004 speech live. I'm pretty sure broadcast networks didn't air it.

 

[Learn2read]

And if every lesser-known speaker was so easily shafted, where would Obama be without his big DNC speech moment?

Ummm...

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Poor Schattenjagger's gonna have to find another thread to fauxtrage in.

THE CIRCLE JERK CONTINUES.

 

[HAL_Laboratory]

I wonder what NPR will have to say on the subject today.

 

[The Adder]

Lol liberal circle jerk in effect
Instead of commenting on the topic at hand, they proceed to attack the GOP (as if there isn't enough threads doing that)

"I'm not going to read the topic, I'm just going to assume I know what's happening and run in screaming with my eyes shut and ears covered!"

 

[DasRaven]

Isn't she down like 18 points in a congressional race? Is she the next big thing at the PTA?

But, those polls are all before she was branded the GOP's "new hope" by blogs and given a speaking slot that wasn't deemed important enough to break into Isaac coverage or a commercial for.

That will make all the difference. Won't it?

 

[akira28]

I watch MSNBC's coverage for counterpoints/discussion, i don't expect them to sacrifice ad time to show all the lesser known speakers like i don't expect Spike TV to air the Konami E3 press conference. Some other network can do that if they want, and like it's been said, Fox chose not to as well.

I listened to Pacifica Radio to hear them straight joan on mugs with their shitty convention speeches. They were making fun of Ann Romney, how she loooooves women so much with her emotional appeals to trust her husband, and how they started out with modest beginnings, she the mayor's daughter, and Mitt, the heir from a wealthy and connected family, etc. Not once did she mention the policies of the GOP, or address the accusations of there being a war on women. She just asks that the moms and grandmoms of America trust her husband, because they're the ones who work so hard.

Yeah, no. Barely made sense.

edit: nice rethread.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

And there goes the thread title.

 

[massoluk]

Heh. Admin. One day someone gonna accuse Neogaf of liberal bias with that kind of thread title change

 

[HAL_Laboratory]

Heh. Admin. One day someone gonna accuse Neogaf of liberal bias with that kind of thread title change

I would say the world as a whole has a liberal bias. It's the dominant ideology of modern times.

 

[DasRaven]

And there goes the thread title.

Yup, move along folks, nothing more to see here.

 

[SteveWinwood]

This thread sucks. Who the hell started this thread?
I bought into the Drudge headlines and outrage from the right over MSNBC's treatment of the RNC only to find out even Fox News did the same thing. Embarassing.
Two lessons:
1. Don't post without verifying first.
2. Don't watch cable news if you expect actual coverage of the convention.
and 3. Mia Love is the next big thing - and 4. she's hot.

Respect + a lot

 

[ggnoobIGN]

Did that ridiculously uninformed thread about the GOP boing a Puerto Rican woman get a title change? I'm going to guess not.

 

[B-Dubs]

That thread title change made me spit out my drink, for reals.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

The update in the OP is definitely nice to see.

As I expected, really. The lesser-knowns simply aren't worthy of air time.

 

[mavs]

Did that ridiculously uninformed thread about the GOP boing a Puerto Rican woman get a title change? I'm going to guess not.

I was going to say that, but the title of that thread wasn't exactly inaccurate