OuterLimits
Member
Cats winning the battles is all that matters. 
Damn Dogs and their popularity. Lol.
Damn Dogs and their popularity. Lol.
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Reminder - North American Splatfest (Splatoon) going on right now (July 4)
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PlumCantaloupe
Member
Over already? I had to stop playing last night. I love dogs but the #teamdog teams I was paired with were getting dominated 3/4 of the matches :/
I'm actually really surprised. I was on Team Dog and didn't think we had a chance in hell. I figured the overwhelming popularity of cats on the Internet would be indicative of the results, but I'm quite pleasantly surprised to see how popular dogs are.
I only got to play about 3 matches against an actual cat team and they were all full level 20 players with kanji names. They were tough but my team pulled through for all three. The rest of my matches were against fellow dogs so... I don't think a lot of my play time contributed to our win total. Lost every single one of those games anyway.
I only got to play about 3 matches against an actual cat team and they were all full level 20 players with kanji names. They were tough but my team pulled through for all three. The rest of my matches were against fellow dogs so... I don't think a lot of my play time contributed to our win total. Lost every single one of those games anyway.
Your justification is marred by a good amount of flawed logic. There's no way of knowing that one team had a proportionally greater amount of bad players, and the amount of games that mattered played by each team was the same.
SatoAilDarko
Member
If the losses did count then so would the victories making it a zero-sum gain.
Besides the patch notes make not that infighting foes count for overall score calculation.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I'm sorry, I lost like 20 games last night as a Cat.
I feel responsible.
I feel responsible.
alfredofroylan
Member
As a queen dog, this news please me.
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
I wish I could represent team dog instead of stupid rock or pop. I got 7 dogs myself lol.
TheSlySoul
Member
It is like running for president when George Bush Jr. won.Cats winning the battles is all that matters.
Damn Dogs and their popularity. Lol.
Oh well, most battles won true victory!
Wait... does that make Team Cat, President Bush then?
Why would popularity be a factor in deciding the winner? So pretty much from now on just pick the more popular side. It was obviously slanted to dogs when the shirts were first available. The matches that matter will end up close to 50% win/lose (the % of good and bad players on each side were probably similar) and then the popularity bonus will tip it in your favor. With this system in place there's no real reason to rep the less popular option because popularity is the deciding factor. You've already lost. When it comes down to it, Splatfest should just be looked at as a grind for Sea Snails. What a sad turn of events.
#teamcatreallywon
#teamcatreallywon
alfredofroylan
Member
Just came back from Tumblr, the salt on Team Cat is real.
And delicious
Saint Gregory
Member
Fortunately as a black cat I was already used to the system being weighted against me -_-
Why would popularity be a factor in deciding the winner? So pretty much from now on just pick the more popular side. It was obviously slanted to dogs when the shirts were first available. The matches that matter will end up close to 50% win/lose (the % of good and bad players on each side were probably similar) and then the popularity bonus will tip it in your favor. With this system in place there's no real reason to rep the less popular option because popularity is the deciding factor. You've already lost. When it comes down to it, Splatfest should just be looked at as a grind for Sea Snails. What a sad turn of events.
#teamcatreallywon
I suspect future Splatfests will be even more one sided now that everyone knows how the winner is decided.
There will probably be huge reddit posts or something telling everyone to choose one side that way the majority of people get the Sea Snail bonus.
Aurora Sparkle
Neo Member
Also, it sucks that Splatfest ended up being a popularity contest rather than an actual competition.
Next time I'll just wait to see what team looks like it's has the most players and just join that one. Unfortunate. The Event itself was still fun though.
Why would popularity be a factor in deciding the winner? So pretty much from now on just pick the more popular side. It was obviously slanted to dogs when the shirts were first available. The matches that matter will end up close to 50% win/lose (the % of good and bad players on each side were probably similar) and then the popularity bonus will tip it in your favor. With this system in place there's no real reason to rep the less popular option because popularity is the deciding factor. You've already lost. When it comes down to it, Splatfest should just be looked at as a grind for Sea Snails. What a sad turn of events.
#teamcatreallywon
wasn't the win percentage two times as important as the popularity percentage in determining the winner?
I don't know, I'm just going on what's been posted in here. Cats won the matches 51% to 49% but because popularity also factors in, the 51% win was not enough. How much weight is given to popularity is not important, that it has any at all is the problem.
Yup I can see that happening. I hope there's enough backlash to make them change it. It's a flawed setup. Just go by win%.
Nope. Just dominate the win %. If team cat just dominated their matches we wouldn't even be talking about it. More team dog members just mean more chances of losing matches but still team cat couldn't capitalize on it.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
The Win porcentage is more important. The problem was that, even if Cats won more battles, it was still small difference of won battles compared with dogs.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
And as I pointed out in my first post a scenario like that is not feasible. There was an equal % of skilled-not skilled players on both teams, thus a close to 50% final result.
Just imagine if actual Splatoon matches were settled like this, lol. You get a 51% to 49% win but because your opponents were wearing a certain type of gear they get bonus points that tip the scale in their favor. It would be hilarious (in a bad way) but that's not how you judge a match. The actual win% is the only important factor here.
PreyingShark
Member
As I predicted, the win %s were so close to 50% that this is indeed just a giant popularity contest. lololololol
Team Cat better battlers though
Team Cat better battlers though
not that I could tell from my teammates...
But still more members doesn't mean more wins. It's a balancing factor especially when a team gets flooded with lesser skilled players. It's not like you can control who joins the team and at the same time it's not like you can control who you team up with. If it's a skill to skill match then I will agree with a win% only scoring ala ranked battle. But it's not like that in Splatfest.
Splatfest should exactly be like that. The winner should be decided by which team won the most.
Why would popularity be a factor in deciding the winner? So pretty much from now on just pick the more popular side. It was obviously slanted to dogs when the shirts were first available. The matches that matter will end up close to 50% win/lose (the % of good and bad players on each side were probably similar) and then the popularity bonus will tip it in your favor. With this system in place there's no real reason to rep the less popular option because popularity is the deciding factor. You've already lost. When it comes down to it, Splatfest should just be looked at as a grind for Sea Snails. What a sad turn of events.
#teamcatreallywon
DDDAAMMN THAT SALT.. Are all cats like this? you say popularity doesn't matter but if u guys won a few matches or were a tad more popular u would have won regardless of the popularity boost we won by.... just seems like a good ol case of GET GUD!!!
God job fellow Dogs/Marie voters let the cats continue to be sour.
YO dawg! that was well said. that pussy cats dropped the ball when it counted.
TheDanimal
Junior Member
Just bought this game, what level do I need to be to unlock splatfest?
Edit: ...unless it's already over
Edit: ...unless it's already over
That cat math, now I know where Judd get's it. This isn't possible when we dogs had the majority of the players. We actually had more, but were able to make up for our shitty terrible teammates.
It was, but ratio wise, 2% isn't enough to overcome having less than half the playing pool on your team. Someone in the OT said cats had to win 56% to win overall.
ActStriker
Member
It's an event not an unlock
Splatoon helps strengthen your back muscles because you're going to be carrying a lot of people.
Iva Demilcol
Member
You see, that's exactly our point: We performed better than Team Dog yet we lost.
Well, I had fun to be honest. I ended up teaming up with three awesome gals and guys for most of the splatfest and we kicked ass. So, if you're reading this Lisa, DarthLord and Lord Cat: you rock!, seriously, we were unstoppable!!!
All public matches in Splatoon, whether Ranked, Regular, or Splatfest are all the same. You're assigned random teammates and you try your best to make it work. For cats and dogs it was the same, different player pools but the results show that it was as even as it could be skill-wise. I never said more members meant more wins.
It doesn't matter if I'm team cat, team dog, with these results or a different result where cats won, the system is flawed. Now try addressing my points if you think you're right/I'm wrong. Wins should be the only factor determining who wins.
Then why didn't Team Cat win? It shouldn't matter how many players are on each side.
So here is my theory. Remember when you won you got 5 points, but when you lose you get 2. If to determine the winner all they did was add those points, and Team Dog was more popular, then it makes sense Team Dog won since more points are added even if they lose, Team Cat would need to win 2 out of every 3 games to tie the score of a Team Dog.
The superior team won anyway #TeamDog
The superior team won anyway #TeamDog
hillsighed
Member
Team Dog can suck it. We, Team Cat were the real winners.
How do you perform better than the other team and still lose?
How do you perform better than the other team and still lose?
nah, it's because all the leftover players from team dog had to play other left over members from team dog and those matches didn't count towards anything
expect the win percentages to be this close for every splatfest unless they change how they do it. it's just how it is, both teams will be evenly matched for matches that count and then the team with more players will have matches against their own team.
it will be funny if they actually have a splatfest theme where one side proves to be legitimately more skilled.
The only points that were counted were games where it was Team Cat vs. Team Dog. Team Dog vs. Team Dog matches didn't count towards the overall score.
Even if there were literally four people on one team and one million people on another, the team with the most wouldn't be getting more points because the only matches that counted were the ones where the million player team had to vs the four other players on the other team.
In which case the team with the most wins would not only win the most matches but also the most points.
Ranked battles have a much better control and filter of teammates simply because of being paired up and playing against equally ranked players. Turf wars don't need that because there's really nothing at stake than 300p bonus. Just in my first splatfest game, I got a teammate at lvl.1 and we're up against 3 lvl.20s and a lvl.14. How can that be a fair match ala turf war? That's why votes should matter even if it's just 33% of the total because having more members means more variable skill level of one team that can be unfavorable for an event where a good prize is at stake.
Besides, nobody knows the votes and even the win% until the end of the event. So unless every player who joins the event reads gaming forums to universally group together to join one side of the team, votes cannot be easily skewed to be unbalanced.