Funny, people here were super mad at Sony because they were so "anti-consumer" (when word got out of the SpiderMan deal even though Microsoft has done similar things in the past). Now word comes out that they were too looking for exclusivity deals but just didn't or couldn't pony up and that's the actual reason why Sony is apparently getting a lot of exclusivity deals?... sorry if I find that funny (reminds me of all that talk "cross gen won't hold back the XBSX!!!" and then we saw the truth with that Halo Infinite trailer).
I really hope you are a dev with such intimate details on both consoles. Your speaking as if its facts.
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Third party games are often considered to be GOTY.
Ehh.. I think Sony is just swimming in money and sees a weak competitor they can potentially remove from the market with throwing a bit of cash and influence around.
Yeah it's not like Game Pass is brand new... it hasn't made a dent in Sony's ever expanding revenue / market share.
Truth hurts
Brawler? I think you mean corporate prick.
Yeah sony is really late on the cloud gaming having it possible since 5 years ago.
most of big studios hate gamepass with passion but wont be honest about that
One question that has been on my mind lately: How does the gaming industry view Game Pass? Is it a threat or opportunity?
For some studios, I can see how they might regard it as an opportunity; they forge a deal with MS to curate a small game or an older game to expose more customers to their content. But let us consider the other side.
Sony makes the Playstation platform and supports it as a publisher for their in-house studios. Content from the industry is sold through the Playstation Store, and Sony takes a 30% cut. This still looks like a fair deal when compared to selling a hard copy on a disc. Sony has an advantage because it is their platform and store, but the playing field is almost level. They still sell their games in the same market as everyone else, and keeping the marketplace attractive and diverse boosts the platform.
With Game Pass, MS will provide all of its first party games as part of the curated content. 3rd parties would need to negotiate some deal with Microsoft, who decides what ends up next to their titles. MS’s customers might be paying $180/year, and have access to more content than they have time to play. This would give MS incredible leverage to crush the rest of the industry if Game Pass ever became the dominant way to access interactive content. Sure, customers can buy whatever they want, but they may be just as likely to ask, Why should they spend more?
It all looks rosy today, and Game Pass subscribers (about 10 million currently) have lots of stuff to play, but what happens long term? Will EA, Activision, Crytek, From Software, Take-Two/Rockstar, Bandai, Bethesda, Capcom, Codemasters, Epic Games, Gearbox Software, Konami, Square Enix, THQ, Ubisoft, etc. support Xbox if they feel it poses a threat to their prosperity or survival?
If Game Pass is really viewed as a threat, then it might drive publishers to make deals with Sony, aside from the money offered.
What cut does Sony take for games sold in the PSN store?
Answer (1 of 4): Its 30%. It might vary depending upon the game and company, for example a AAA title from EA or Ubisoft which is expected to sell millions might have a lower fee, but generally the cut of selling a game on PSN or Steam or MS Store is same- 30%. Epic games thought it was too much ...www.quora.com
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Have you evidence of this?
I dont need to be sherlock homes, most devs i know are against this, Because they know what are the nocive aspects on the long run if someone have that power on the industry,you really think ea, ubi, and the others want Sony or Microsoft to make a system were they have absolute control of everything? If they Already hate the 30 Cut they have to pay now, imagine game pass
And yet there are a lot of games on there from big devs, GTA been on there Red Dead also cap com game , games from Ubisoft on there so i would do a bit more Sherlock Holmes befor you make a statement like that
Gta was there... Four months after years on the market, rd2 two years after the Release
But you were saying that big publishers wont put games on there, they do. Not day one yeah but they do go on there. Same with PSnow as well. you can get ALL xbox exclusives there day one, has sony got a service where they do the same?
Hey mate, stop moving goalpost, i said most big publishers hate the system, you can hate something and still work in that system, Sony? Sony sells his first party like hot cakes, they arent desperate and Willing to lose money
GaaS HAS taken off. And Sony is benefiting by taking 30% off every dollar Fortnite makes on Playstation hardware.
It is simple xbox fans would rather phil spend his money on new studios instead of 1 or 2 big timed exclusives. Phil does not have an unlimited budget to spend 750 million on a money hat. That is 3 insomniac level studio purchases for 1 timed exclusive. Which would a customer get more value out of in a generation 1 timed exclusive or 3 insomniac level studios.
But that assumes Sony somehow has a bigger budget.
Correct.Anyone at that sort of corporate level is some sort of prick.
I don't know if they would, but I have trouble seeing how they close the market share gap without doing something much more significant than letting you rent games every month. Regarding X1 specifically, that would have been a bad time to subsidize because the generation had already been lost.
The problem will be just like TV streaming now. If it's successful publishers will pull out and create their own exclusive streaming services. Then you'll have tons and have to subscribe to more than one to get the games that you want, essentially turning gaming into cable TV.One question that has been on my mind lately: How does the gaming industry view Game Pass? Is it a threat or opportunity?
For some studios, I can see how they might regard it as an opportunity; they forge a deal with MS to curate a small game or an older game to expose more customers to their content. But let us consider the other side.
Sony makes the Playstation platform and supports it as a publisher for their in-house studios. Content from the industry is sold through the Playstation Store, and Sony takes a 30% cut. This still looks like a fair deal when compared to selling a hard copy on a disc. Sony has an advantage because it is their platform and store, but the playing field is almost level. They still sell their games in the same market as everyone else, and keeping the marketplace attractive and diverse boosts the platform.
With Game Pass, MS will provide all of its first party games as part of the curated content. 3rd parties would need to negotiate some deal with Microsoft, who decides what ends up next to their titles. MS’s customers might be paying $180/year, and have access to more content than they have time to play. This would give MS incredible leverage to crush the rest of the industry if Game Pass ever became the dominant way to access interactive content. Sure, customers can buy whatever they want, but they may be just as likely to ask, Why should they spend more?
It all looks rosy today, and Game Pass subscribers (about 10 million currently) have lots of stuff to play, but what happens long term? Will EA, Activision, Crytek, From Software, Take-Two/Rockstar, Bandai, Bethesda, Capcom, Codemasters, Epic Games, Gearbox Software, Konami, Square Enix, THQ, Ubisoft, etc. support Xbox if they feel it poses a threat to their prosperity or survival?
If Game Pass is really viewed as a threat, then it might drive publishers to make deals with Sony, aside from the money offered.
What cut does Sony take for games sold in the PSN store?
Answer (1 of 4): Its 30%. It might vary depending upon the game and company, for example a AAA title from EA or Ubisoft which is expected to sell millions might have a lower fee, but generally the cut of selling a game on PSN or Steam or MS Store is same- 30%. Epic games thought it was too much ...
Developing for Xbox Game Pass: "I could never pitch these ideas to a publisher"
This is part of a series of features with Xbox Game Studios. Check out the teams discuss life as a Microsoft-owned comp…
Xbox Game Pass is fair for developers, these Gamelab panelists agree - OnMSFT.com
During a panel hosted by GameIndustry.biz at Gamelab 2019, several developers have voiced their enthusiasm about Xbox Game Pass.
