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PlayStation changing PS Plus (by folding PS Now into it) will accelerate Xbox merging XB Live into Game Pass.
I'm thinking Sony will roll some of their movie/tv offerings into to try to broaden the appeal.
PlayStation changing PS Plus (by folding PS Now into it) will accelerate Xbox merging XB Live into Game Pass.
They are trying that idea in Poland right now.I'm thinking Sony will roll some of their movie/tv offerings into to try to broaden the appeal.
Disney+ doesnt offer their biggest movies day one. Doesnt offer their shows in one go. They stretch them weeks unlike Netflix. They charged an extra 30$ for their AAA movies. It’s mostly back catalogue. With some strategic content here and there. At most one show per season.
It’s exactly like PSNow.
Playstation and Nintendo arent going to offer all their titles day one in their subscriptions until they stop selling 10+ million copies each. Excluding games like Destruction All Stars, Pacman 99, aka games that are risky or multiplayer centric.
I can see Sony releasing The Last of Us: Factions day one on PS+….+.
Besides, Microsoft first party games and some indie games, aren’t a good number of games on Gamepass pretty old as well? I think the only time when you get a newer release of a major game is when they don’t sell as well as expected, but I could be wrong.Not good enough. Pay a subscription service to play old games? How is this a GamePass competitor? Don't all first party Xbox games release on Gamepass day one?
Sounds like a quick fix instead of a proper subscription service.
Yeah I think it's like that. But still, MS puts their games there day one, Sony won't do the same. So imo, this is not a gamepass competitor if it turns out to be like the rumors say it.Besides, Microsoft first party games and some indie games, aren’t a good number of games on Gamepass pretty old as well? I think the only time when you get a newer release of a major game is when they don’t sell as well as expected, but I could be wrong.
I'm thinking Sony will roll some of their movie/tv offerings into to try to broaden the appeal.
Sony makes damn good money on first party and it is good for their platform so I think we will see more of what we have already seen. First party on PC.......eventually. First party on subscription......eventually.
Comparing PS+ to Gamepass has never been logical. Why does this keep cropping up?
I wouldn't hold my breath for that.I only care if they'll sell those PSX/PS2/PSP games own their own without the subscription and if you own the disc it just works..
Not really interested in a rental service.
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So it'll be 1v1 eventually. It already is for many psychologically.
Xbox fans having meltdowns because Jason threw Gamepass into his Twitter post.
This new service from Sony will likely not be a direct competitor to Gamepass.
It's basically sounding like a unification of PS plus and PS now. Something PS fans have been asking for a long time.
Jason loves to stir some shit among the warriors lol
Remove streaming, but still offer PS3 games?I posted it here many moons ago. This is how Sony should do it.
PS+ Premium (target: gamers)
- No Day and Date Release of first party AAA games.
- Day and Date Release of AA Games.
- Day and Date Release of first-party multiplayer games. (They did it with Destruction Allstars. They should continue with it.)
- PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4 BC games.
- Monthly games similar to how PSNow is currently.
- Remove streaming and make it available in all countries.
Nope, there’s also many big 3rd party games day one (MLB, Back4blood, Outriders e.t.c), new (not day one) games as well like Scarlet Nexus and honestly if your idea of an indie game are games like Stalker 2, A plague’s tale 2 or even The Gunk then you better hope that Sony’s service has such games day one or very close to day one.Besides, Microsoft first party games and some indie games, aren’t a good number of games on Gamepass pretty old as well? I think the only time when you get a newer release of a major game is when they don’t sell as well as expected, but I could be wrong.
I posted it here many moons ago. This is how Sony should do it.
PS+ Premium (target: gamers)
SONY PASS (target: casuals)
- No Day and Date Release of first party AAA games.
- Day and Date Release of AA Games.
- Day and Date Release of first-party multiplayer games. (They did it with Destruction Allstars. They should continue with it.)
- PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4 BC games.
- Monthly games similar to how PSNow is currently.
- Remove streaming and make it available in all countries.
- Sony Movies & Shows + Funimation/Crunchyroll + Playstation Games (Not day 1)
- Doesn't need backward compatible games. Casuals don't care for them.
- All-streaming, not available for download.
Xbox fans having meltdowns because Jason threw Gamepass into his Twitter post.
This new service from Sony will likely not be a direct competitor to Gamepass.
It's basically sounding like a unification of PS plus and PS now. Something PS fans have been asking for a long time.
Jason loves to stir some shit among the warriors lol
It looks like PS+ higher tier would include streaming. I wouldn't complain if they they do.Not having streaming on the premium service is shit.
Having streaming is amazing on console, being able to try games without the download.
Also how much will these cost?
Hopefully I will be able to download PS1/PS2/PSP games to play natively, this is what interests me the most, honestly. Plus, would like to see them selling thoses games on PS store, so I could perhaps skip tha subscription model (and buy Suikoden II, Breathe of Fire III, Xenogears and more )8It already exists. This is just a rebranding with possibly added older system titles.
Now the question is, will the emulator wrapper be in those PS1/2/PSP games so you can download natively like you can PS2/PS4/PS5 currently.
More than likely it will be since it existed on the PS3/Vita already.
What would "something different" be? The point and end goal of Gamepass is that you can play all the games available on any device you own whereever and whenever you want. How do you make things even more casual friendly?Gamepass strategy will not crack the casual crowd. Don't follow that. Ever. Instead: build a better service on top on the already successful PS+ (the news seems to suggest this) to cater to their loyal gamer crowd, and then build something different that could tap into the 2 billion casuals.
If the movies and tv show are gonna be the "bonuses" of this sub thing it's gonna be even more wack than I thought.You need to go all the way, adding some BC games and a few movies and increasing the cost ain’t gonna cut it.
The guy who said incorrectly that BC was dead should know this. BC is great but you should just add that for free.
Again, what does Sony merging PS+ & PS Now has to do with GamePass being sustainable or not?Has someone told Sony that game pass isn’t sustainable?
We know the numbers. It's bad, and they're gonna hide it inside ps+If it would be performing bad they wouldn't double bet on it. And MS, Google, Amazon, Nvidia and so on wouldn't have copied it.
So with Microsoft it is great value. With Sony it is a "money grab".
That would be the equivalent of GP Ultimate, not base.that seems to be a PS Now without streaming bundled with PS Plus (so a base Game Pass)
That would be the equivalent of GP Ultimate, not base.
Well that's fine really given they are trying to re-introduce their offerings to better position themselves against their competitor.
PS Now as it was, had similar offerings to what they are now announcing (the day one aspect has not changed) and no one was talking about it.
I still hope that subscription services don't become the primary way for both Microsoft & Sony to make money from games they are publishing and so far we have no signs of that happening so that's good.
PSNow + PS+ would include streaming as well. PSNow still has more streamable than downloadable games.GPU includes streaming.
If Sony wants to compete in the value department, include day 1 releases. Without that, anything they release is not competing directly with GP. A lot more value in the service that is giving you access to $60 releases.
Agreed. Any such service from Sony would be much more expensive than £11/$15 a month anyway to reflect the strength of their IPs.People are jumping to conclusions because Jason mentioned Gamepass on that title when honestly he shouldn't have. I'm sure it's bringing him the clicks though.
This sounds like a natural evolution of both PSPlus and PSNow.
Sony won't be including their new games in this new service day one just like MS wouldn't if their games were selling 3 or 4 million copies in 3 days.
It's really clear. I see this service as a "PlayStation legacy" kind of package. At least for now. It may evolve into something else later though.
We don't know what the service is yet, but if it is just putting PS+ and Now together as they are, sure it isn't that great a value. Completely different products.
Has someone told Sony that game pass isn’t sustainable?
They said it wasn't sustainable.
They said it will bring the whole industry down and crash and burn. FUD almost 24/7.
They said owning the games for $70 a piece is always way better then renting for $1.
They called us green rats for supporting the service.
Imagine being one of them and changing your tune.
B-b-but I thought this wasn't a sustainable business model guys?
Can't you see how you're admitting it isn't profitable?Phil Spencer went out of his way to point out that Gamepass is not losing money in hope for some future profit, but that it's already sustainable.
And no, MS generally doesn't talk about profits regarding their subdivisions. Has nothing to do with Gamepass.
It looks like PS+ higher tier would include streaming. I wouldn't complain if they they do.
My point though really is that Sony should target different market crowd. Gamepass strategy will not crack the casual crowd. Don't follow that. Ever. Instead: build a better service on top on the already successful PS+ (the news seems to suggest this) to cater to their loyal gamer crowd, and then build something different that could tap into the 2 billion casuals.
PS+ higher tier will cost a little higher I suppose. Sony Pass will have to compete with Netflix, Disney, and HBO Max. It should cost at par with their average at least.