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Republicans prepared to fund Donald's wall
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Don't bother replying to the usual diversion tactics. It's just going to derail the thread into whataboutisms.
Lord Frieza
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Trust me, I know of the GOP fine enough, but I thought they would at least push back on something like the Wall for a variety of reasons. I guess they really just have sunk to the level of pure evilness now.
Trump is going to build a wall.
Heyoooooooooo!
This is why calls for party unity on the other side are misplaced. People should be given the opportunity and have the courage to fragment where there are differences and come together where there are commonalities, not just take terrible orders from the top.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
And whatever Trump does will also not be effective. As others have already said, half of undocumented immigrants in the US just overstay their visas.
The reason people are so infuriated by Trump's wall (myself included) is the symbolic horror of walls in history. The Berlin wall, the Isaeli wall with Gaza. The progressive thrust of history is toward internationalism and free movement of peoples. Border walls are misanthropic.
What I'm trying to get at is that the US is already well down this dark path. It's a mistake to look at Trump as an abrupt break in history. As if he's single-handedly responsible for turning the US into an authoritarian, borderline fascist state.
That's the thing about the wall, it's the perfect example of people not actually thinking through a problem. If you're dumb enough to believe that the solution is simply building a physical barrier you'll believe anything.
I actually don't know which one would be best. They're all better options and things we should be working on.
Lets never forget that GOP Congressmen held up Flint aid for a year.
PandaPandaPanda
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well since it's not going to be overturned because our government is a total fucking joke, on the very dim yet bright side-at least we can point to how fucking stupid the people of this country are to want something like this once it's completed and (if we're still here in one piece)
but who am I kidding-they'll probably blame democrats or some stupid shit
but who am I kidding-they'll probably blame democrats or some stupid shit
A Human Becoming
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Can the Democrats filibuster it?
Netherscourge
Banned
There's a city in Michigan with water pipes bringing lead and other toxic sediment to people's homes.
But we're going to fast-lane billions to build a fucking border wall.
But we're going to fast-lane billions to build a fucking border wall.
Kremzeek
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Led_Zeppelin
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It isn't about being evil, is about don't fall from the trajectory Trump is taking the GOP because it is his party now. Remember the entire GOP was in favor of TPP and yet Trump killed in his first week in office. My guess is that some things that Trump promised to do that were against the logical agenda of the GOP will be either pushed in silence or be abandoned all together.
2 big promises that Trump made are antagonistic with the GOP ideology, depending on how things go with those 2 promises (infrastructure and no cuts for medicaid and medicare) we will know if the GOP will face Trump or will just play his tune, but seeing how TPP died in silence I would say that the GOP will do whatever Trumps want to do (and who knows if Trumps will actually fulfill his campaign promises) .
RPGCrazied
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I think we need to have a massive strike in this country and flat out not pay taxes anymore.
Skellig Gra
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eh its ok, if you don't know me I love to argue lol
adamsappel
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Can Democrats add amendments to either fund needed projects or to ensure a veto?
It's not even about morals. It just doesn't make any sense on any level. It does nothing for security and it's stupid fiscally. It's just an all around asinine idea. The only benefit I see is appeasing that rotten, radical, but so tiny vocal core, for political brownie points. But I don't see how that's worth 15 billion tax payer's dollars. It's not only bad governance but it's bad politics.
Your guy's already in office.
Still not buying this until I see the actual construction start.
Sidewinder
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Why are the Repubes okay with this? Because Trump will cut the taxes of the rich and their corporations??
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I would guess that Republicans are still playing along in case this Trump shitshow somehow works itself out and he allows them to hold on to power, rather than becoming too dangerous to be associated with.
At this point part of me wishes they would do it. Waste the money, and build a literal, xenophobia-empowering giant black wall from sea to shining fucking sea. Put towers and fucking gun turrets on it. Patrol the fucker with thugs they hire and attack dogs.
Just to A: properly shame America in history and b: give future generations something physical, material, to tear down and spit on and understand that these fascist, neo-nazi collaborators were real.
At this point part of me wishes they would do it. Waste the money, and build a literal, xenophobia-empowering giant black wall from sea to shining fucking sea. Put towers and fucking gun turrets on it. Patrol the fucker with thugs they hire and attack dogs.
Just to A: properly shame America in history and b: give future generations something physical, material, to tear down and spit on and understand that these fascist, neo-nazi collaborators were real.
PanicFreak
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This is the party that approved of tax cuts while trying to fund two wars. They don't give a fuck about the deficit spending.
Yeah with the way things are going, I really don't think we're gonna make it to 2018 trying to win within the system. GOP is trying to fuck over all of us and they're joining their orange tumor in fascism. O yeah and the environment will be permanently fucked, generations of kids won't have a education. And I'm too tired thinking of what other horrid shit they're going to do. This is fine.
Byakuya769
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Something else for Republicans to cower behind.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
Of course they can. Want to take bets if they do?
BlazinSkatinAxel
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Cuz white supremacy. #getdabrownout
Because they have a R next to their name.
onadesertedisland
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If they only take taxes collected from republicunts that voted for this mess, sure buy whatever you want. You don't have a mandate, you lost the popular election.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I've never understood why everyone hates the wall tbh. One things for sure, a more secure border would help slow the Opiate problem we have here.
As a Mexican, the only thing I oppose is bullying a poor country into paying for a massively expensive chunk of concrete that will -not- solve anything. If it's with your own money, you can build a wall on top of the one currently planned, I don't care.
Great Poster
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No, for that you'd need to target big Pharma...they've made TONS of opiates for prescription purposes and doctors seem to be more than willing to over-prescribe them. The "opiate" epidemic you read about is typically referring to prescription narcotics.
Lol? The hell is a shitty wall (or fence) going to do? You think cartels will have trouble with that?
Blow it up/tear it down if they get to the point of trying to actually build it.
EatinOlives
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The Party Of Small Government
Because it's a stupid wall that solves nothing (just throw the damn drugs over the wall), and because it's going to cost an ungodly amount of money.
Where's evidence suggesting this will actually work?
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