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Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)

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OK, I have over 1 hour of recorded footage from the following discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/8XNS5x8


Here's a sneak peek of it:

In case this discord goes private/gets deleted or messages get deleted I'll upload the rest. There is alot of weird and shady shit going on there.
This discord channel is linked to ResetEra and I can proof it too:


That's obviously not everything but Celine is right by holding all the cards tight to you.


(Sorry for the random noises in the beginning, I forgot to turn off the mic)
And it’s struck down...nothing to hide here folks
 

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Why would you put that kind of tattoo somewhere where people can easily see it in public? The dude's an idiot.
He lives in the Netherlands. Eccentricity is pretty common there. What I wonder is if he ever travels to the US and knowing the US once arrested a guys for importing loli hentai from Japan... What will happen to him? Should he wear a tape covering the tattoo or is his body illegal? lol
 
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What’s with this accusation that Gaffers tried to contact employers? I’ve read the entire thread and I must have missed it. Admittedly, I’ve been drunk for much of it.

Is it typical made up bullshit to deflect or is it true? If it’s true, don’t dox man, that shit’s repugnant. It’s straight from the REEEEEEE playbook.

If it’s bullshit (which I’m leaning towards unless someone posts proof), that’s a cowardly attempt at deflection.
 

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What’s with this accusation that Gaffers tried to contact employers? I’ve read the entire thread and I must have missed it. Admittedly, I’ve been drunk for much of it.

Is it typical made up bullshit to deflect or is it true? If it’s true, don’t dox man, that shit’s repugnant. It’s straight from the REEEEEEE playbook.

If it’s bullshit (which I’m leaning towards unless someone posts proof), that’s a cowardly attempt at deflection.
It is made up bullshit.... we do thing our way, we never ever tried to contact employers.

Resetera is well known for telling lies, in case you have not noticed.
 

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Folks, as you can imagine this thread has generated a significant amount of reports. While the aim of some were to stifle the debate and just rejected by the team, others were more about the OT experience. As the topic caught fire and it was fast moving we didn't want to be too hands-on during a 'developing incident'. It seems to be slowing down now so we're just having a chat on what to do. The options are to merge into the main community offsite thread, or just move to OT and leave a perm redirect for off site linking and maybe close the 'reflects' thread. Any thoughts? We just want to throw this out there so there's no suspicion/raised eyebrows when we do eventually move it. It's purely about giving OT their light hearted, drama free board back while keeping this one open for those interested in a more suited sub board. We will consider thoughts and any input as always. We'll probably plan to move it in the next hour or two if there's no strong objections/compelling counter points.
Maybe we need a fifth forum aside from Gaming/Comms/OT/Pol called "Shit-Shows"
and move this threads there.
 

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My point of view on this tragedy.

I don't think we will see any change in the short period, Era situation is very different from Gaf back in the day.
First, Gaf meltdown was created mainly by lots of people who felt banned for wrongful reason who were cultivating hatred for a very long time waiting to see GAF to burn. People who just take the chance when the controversy started. ERA is still a relatively young forum.
Also ERA community lived within GAF for some years before the collapse. There's no such thing as GAF users on ERA. There isn't a community who have an active role specular to ERA trends inside ERA.

I also disagree with who think reddit and other forum want to hide this story. In fact, just typing "resetera shit" and you'll find lot of talsk on reddit about the ERA shitness. Remember reddit maybe don't love ERA but at the same time is full of people banned from GAF,. They don't like GAF either, they simply don't care. At the same time I see lot of community complain about Era mods and their nazi behaviour, something even worse than GAF before the meltdown.

Ultimately, and I regret to say it, the controversy started by the OP is quite bland. She typed some words in the search bar looking for something controversial, and... obviously she found it! It's something anyone else would do?
Screenshot shows mostly sentences taken out of their context, creepy yes but not much relevant. She then complained with the ERA admin who clearly he has no power on that discord channel.

The more I read her posts, the more I feel that while OP is complaining about ERA, she looks like a typical product of ERA. I see on her a worrying pattern you can find in lots of user from that site:
-extrapolation of words or sentences to solidify her position (typing controversial words... really????);
-attitute to see things just black or white (they talk about loli and pedo -> there is a pedo problem)

-tendence to simplify arguments and see just two side (admin not agree with her -> he is against me/ he is part of the problem).

No, for me those screenshots aren't a prove for a real controversy.

But

BUT

they are the clar evidence of the ERA admins fallacy and hypocrisy.

They surely know lot of their audience not only don't agreed with them, but in fact, they feared them.
Their community knows ERA is not "the safe space" mods happily claims and they know they cannot speak freely.
They show how people who act as they have a superior morality have, in fact, something to hide.
There really are discords secret channels and mods try to investigate on them.
This controversy maybe is not meaningful, but surely it is another piece on the puzzle of ERA meltdown.
 
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First page of google search only.

It was covered, heavily. Same about Neogaf's downfall.

I agree that people don't care that much overall, especially when we're speaking about a relatively small discussion board. I knew that from the beginning, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak about it.

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I'll defintely stop posting for now unless something big happen on Resetera's side. I know I've already said that earlier, but at that time I'm done. There's no need to anymore.

Resetera's hypocrisy is in plain sight now and it's hard to argue that the more we dig, the more serious it gets. The story already got a lot of attention, Resetera's staff are purging everything, made some weird decisions, tried to shift the blame many times... Plus, we're not speaking about whether jacking off to "loli" is pedo or not anymore.

I've been following the reactions from some places, it's obvious some people have a clear agenda. Some others are trying to downplay the whole thing because they feel personally offended at people being weirded by minors depictions or pedo tendencies being displayed publicly, for some reasons. :messenger_winking:

I'm one broke woman and Resetera have something like 20 moderators, 7 admins and 40,000 zealots ready to throw themselves into a wild fire to defend Resetera's honor. They also have money and contact I don't have. I would like to thanks the few people who helped me, really. You weren't a lot. We did all of this by being 3 or 4 people, just imagine if more people cared. It would have went massive. I did my best though, I slept very little for 3 days straight and I value my health more than all of Resetera's shenanigan. Plus, diving into those kind of stuff isn't really healthy for your mental.

I'm open to mature discussions with Resetera's staff or members featured in the OP. I've already tried to contact some of them, @SinCityAssassin @LordKano for exemple (without any answer back). If they want to talk to me, in a civil manner, without trying to silent me, I'll consider what they have to say.

I also would have preferred Resetera's staff to contact me at some point, just saying that, yes, they fucked up, but that all of those problems would be addressed seriousely from now. That they're changing stuff on the way they're handling those matters. Instead of just trying to downplay everything, sweeping things under the rugs, protecting their precious deviant members until exposed in plain sight, like they did from the beginning.

Just as a quick reminder : If Cerium had looked into the proof I gathered instead of brushing it off, 6 months ago, the problem would have been resolved very fast and I would never have went public about it. I gave him months before going public.

Mature discussions are invaluable, especially in those cases.

I've gave every proof/elements I had left to someone I trust. In case I miss some development, he'll post them in my stead by logging into my account on Neogaf. I'll step back for now, but I'll keep watching from afar now, unless Resetera's makes another weird decision toward me. I promised I'd an interview to someone who contacted me though and a promise is a promise.

If anyone wants to contact me for any matters, please do it through Neogaf pm.

Thanks for the people who cared, thanks for the people who gave this the attention it deserves. :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:
You have my respect for being a strong, normal person/woman.
 

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My point of view on this tragedy.

I don't think we will see any change in the short period, Era situation is very different from Gaf back in the day.
First, Gaf meltdown was created mainly by lots of people who felt banned for wrongful reason who were cultivating hatred for a very long time waiting to see GAF to burn. People who just take the chance when the controversy started. ERA is still a relatively young forum.
Also ERA community lived within GAF for some years before the collapse. There's no such thing as GAF users on ERA. There isn't a community who have an active role specular to ERA trends inside ERA.

I also disagree with who think reddit and other forum want to hide this story. In fact, just typing "resetera shit" and you'll find lot of talsk on reddit about the ERA shitness. Remember reddit maybe don't love ERA but at the same time is full of people banned from GAF,. They don't like GAF either, they simply don't care. At the same time I see lot of community complain about Era mods and their nazi behaviour, something even worse than GAF before the meltdown.

Ultimately, and I regret to say it, the controversy started by the OP is quite bland. She typed some words in the search bar looking for something controversial, and... obviously she found it! It's something anyone else would do?
Screenshot shows mostly sentences taken out of their context, creepy yes but not much relevant. She then complained with the ERA admin who clearly he has no power on that discord channel.

The more I read her posts, the more I feel that while OP is complaining about ERA, she looks like a typical product of ERA. I see on her a worrying pattern you can find in lots of user from that site:
-extrapolation of words or sentences to solidify her position (typing controversial words... really????);
-attitute to see things just black or white (they talk about loli and pedo -> there is a pedo problem)

-tendence to simplify arguments and see just two side (admin not agree with her -> he is against me/ he is part of the problem).

No, for me those screenshots aren't a prove for a real controversy.

But

BUT

they are the clar evidence of the ERA admins fallacy and hypocrisy.

They surely know lot of their audience not only don't agreed with them, but in fact, they feared them.
Their community knows ERA is not "the safe space" mods happily claims and they know they cannot speak freely.
They show how people who act as they have a superior morality have, in fact, something to hide.
There really are discords secret channels and mods try to investigate on them.
This controversy maybe is not meaningful, but surely it is another piece on the puzzle of ERA meltdown.
Exactly! This whole thing should be focusing on REEEEE's hypocrisy and double moral standards, not so much on the pedo thing which is pretty tame by internet standards. Of course for REEEEE, even tamer stuff causes their forum to go on reeee outrage tantrums and calls for doxxing, firings and cancellations so it is disgusting that they are so blatantly two-faced hypocrites.
 

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Exactly! This whole thing should be focusing on REEEEE's hypocrisy and double moral standards, not so much on the pedo thing which is pretty tame by internet standards. Of course for REEEEE, even tamer stuff causes their forum to go on reeee outrage tantrums and calls for doxxing, firings and cancellations so it is disgusting that they are so blatantly two-faced hypocrites.
 
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What’s with this accusation that Gaffers tried to contact employers? I’ve read the entire thread and I must have missed it. Admittedly, I’ve been drunk for much of it.

Is it typical made up bullshit to deflect or is it true? If it’s true, don’t dox man, that shit’s repugnant. It’s straight from the REEEEEEE playbook.

If it’s bullshit (which I’m leaning towards unless someone posts proof), that’s a cowardly attempt at deflection.
There was a 9 year old account with no posts who posted in this thread crying for deplatforming and urging us to contact advertisers. I knew this was what they were playing at: faking it so they can point at it and play the victim later. That’s why I told all the dumb cunts liking it to stop.

You're doing God's work, @Celine.D.Sykes . Looks like ERA staff are just censoring every mention of this though...so hit them where it hurts- make all the companies that put ads on Era know about this. I think a lot of the site's revenue comes from their paid membership tiers, but taking out a chunk of their ad revenue will definitely affect their day to day operation.

Deplatform!

Why are you guys supporting this post from a 9 year old account with 2 posts, both of which are in this thread? Clearly a troll account trying to incite mob mentality by calling for deplatforming efforts. That’s what they do, not us. Be smarter.

Yeah, I totally understand your skepticism. This is an account I made in 2010 but never used, I had another account with more posts that was perm'd (probably by bish) in 2015-2016 during the craziness on GAF OT leading up to Trump's election.

Anyway, hostility towards newcomers is awful Era of you. This is not a cool kids club.

Correction, skepticism towards a newcomer who only came here to participate in drama and cry for deplatforming. If you genuinely wanted to be a part of the community, this wouldn’t have been your first contribution. Don’t play the victim and try to paint me as the Reeflake for pointing that out.
 

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Honestly, I kind of take issue with bullying the Gacha community over this. Era has had it out for Japanese media since it's creation thanks to people listening to that stupid women criticism in game design thread. Several games have been banned because of that bullshit in addition to the people that just want to play them without having to worry about the stupid politics surrounding them. The gacha and anime/manga communities actively hate Era's moderation and a lot of them wish they had another site that didn't have restrictions on what you could talk about and many don't want to go back to Gaf because it just isn't as active.

For the people that just want to see Era meltdown, these guys are on your side.
 

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Exactly! This whole thing should be focusing on REEEEE's hypocrisy and double moral standards, not so much on the pedo thing which is pretty tame by internet standards. Of course for REEEEE, even tamer stuff causes their forum to go on reeee outrage tantrums and calls for doxxing, firings and cancellations so it is disgusting that they are so blatantly two-faced hypocrites.
Agreed. The main issue is the hypocrisy given Era’s stances/rules and banning discussion of games with sexualized minors.

The other stuff is gross IMO, but pretty typical loli/Weaboo stuff with some discussion of differing ages of consent across countries. There could be some actual child porn/pedo stuff going on among participants, but none of what’s been shared thus far proves (or disproved) that.

People are just hoping more digging happens that unearths evidence and Era collapses. Personally I don’t care as it’s a moot point as the majority of crazies causing problems aren’t associated with that Discord or pedo stuff and if they wanted off Era they’d just go elsewhere or make another site. Deplatforming is largely pointless as it’s trivial to find a new forum home or SubReddit these days.
 
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There was a 9 year old account with no posts who posted in this thread crying for deplatforming and urging us to contact advertisers. I knew this was what they were playing at: faking it so they can point at it and play the victim later. That’s why I told all the dumb cunts liking it to stop.
good shit, dude
 

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Honestly, I kind of take issue with bullying the Gacha community over this. Era has had it out for Japanese media since it's creation thanks to people listening to that stupid women criticism in game design thread. Several games have been banned because of that bullshit in addition to the people that just want to play them without having to worry about the stupid politics surrounding them. The gacha and anime/manga communities actively hate Era's moderation and a lot of them wish they had another site that didn't have restrictions on what you could talk about and many don't want to go back to Gaf because it just isn't as active.

For the people that just want to see Era meltdown, these guys are on your side.
Sony anime censorship was the final nail in the coffin for Japanese video game discussion on era and elsewheee
 

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It's pretty clear at this point that GAF is simply being used as a conduit for Ree drama to play out. Let them post their accusations and grind their axes but don't make the mistake of jumping in and getting involved. Just sit back, watch, enjoy your popcorn, and be suspicious as fuck of anyone coming back or signing up just to post here. This ain't our beef.
 

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some weird shit just happened with my pc lol

While uploading it completely froze, not even task manager was working for like 2-3mins then it worked and some tabs were open in my browser that i didnt even open
 
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Sony anime censorship was the final nail in the coffin for Japanese video game discussion on era and elsewheee
At least people can actually criticize the policy elsewhere. Era just hates Japanese stuff to the point one of their protected posters (Crossing Eden) actively hates Japanese people.

The gacha and anime/manga communities at Era are aware of this bias and hate it, which is why I feel like going after them is misguided. It's like attacking the bullied kid because the school district won't punish the bully.
 
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There was a 9 year old account with no posts who posted in this thread crying for deplatforming and urging us to contact advertisers. I knew this was what they were playing at: faking it so they can point at it and play the victim later. That’s why I told all the dumb cunts liking it to stop.
I think you were spot on with that accusation, but at the same time, that is not a Gaffer calling for people to contact somebody’s employer. It is telling people to contact Era’s advertisers.

I’m not defending it, just pointing out that it is not what that dipshit deflector was accusing us of.
 
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I think you were spot on with that accusation, but at the same time, that is not a Gaffer calling for people to contact somebody’s employer. It is telling people to contact Era’s advertisers.

I’m not defending it, just pointing out that it is not what that dipshit deflector was accusing us of.
It’s all part of the same character assassination game that has real life consequences. It’s not what we do on GAF.
 

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Overall, the screenshots that Hado posted aren't really that damning. They seem to be just your typical weeb with what used to be 4chan jargon thrown-in but now it's pretty wide spread. The hypocrisy is still there, but no pedos.
 

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I dont care what people think if thats what I post isnt pedo enough. Im not gonna downplay what loli is and that all of this isn't a big deal should be downplayed (like what era mods are doing constantly if it comes from their own site).
 

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I dont care what people think if thats what I post isnt pedo enough. Im not gonna downplay what loli is and that all of this isn't a big deal should be downplayed (like what era mods are doing constantly if it comes from their own site).
 
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Celine aren't you one of those ERA pedos though? Hisoka is a straight up pedophile and you claimed he was "perfect".




What are you trying to pull? Then again I shouldn't expect much from people who post on ERA.
I remember Hisoka as a violent character, somewhat a creep around woman, but I don't remember him as being a pedophile.

Hisoka is perfect, physically. I find him beautiful.

I mean :



If you're being honest, as a woman, it's hard to say he's not gifted physically. I wish I could met someone who looked like him. If he can be as physically strong too, that would be great.

Stating a fact about someone's physical appearance or some of his qualities doesn't make you a pedo though. It's just being honest and not lying. I'm not the one craving on minors :messenger_winking:

I can forgive a looooooot of things if you're that beautiful, but not being a pedo though. If Hisoka is one, fuck him, but I stopped watching Hunter X Hunter a long time ago. It got boring quickly and the french dub is TERRIBLE.

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Just to answer a question that a lot of people I've been asking : no, I don't think watching safe content with underage people in it is a problem in itself. If you enjoy safe "moe", Card Captor Sakura or just like story with young people in them, it's fine. As long as it isn't about sexualization of minors or "naughty fan-service" around underage people.

I'm not that dumb, I can make the distinction between the two. I'm not saying all otakus are pedophiles, don't worry.
 
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After that I will have to clean my browser history...
 
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I remember Hisoka as a violent character, somewhat a creep around woman, but I don't remember him as being a pedophile.

Hisoka is perfect, physically. I find him beautiful.

I mean :



If you're being honest, as a woman, it's hard to say he's not gifted physically. I wish I could met someone who looked like him. If he can be as physically strong too, that would be great.

Stating a fact about someone's physical appearance or some of his qualities doesn't make you a pedo though. It's just being honest and not lying. I'm not the one craving on minors :messenger_winking:

I can forgive a looooooot of things if you're that beautiful, but not being a pedo though. If Hisoka is one, fuck him, but I stopped watching Hunter X Hunter a long time ago. It got boring quickly and the french dub is TERRIBLE.
Did you stop watching early? Because Hisoka literally gets a boner for Gon like right after Nen is introduced to the plot.
 
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I dont care what people think if thats what I post isnt pedo enough. Im not gonna downplay what loli is and that all of this isn't a big deal should be downplayed (like what era mods are doing constantly if it comes from their own site).
There's also a difference between a girl that has not reached the age of consent and a legally aged girl that looks extremely young. This is something everyone should keep in mind considering that (1) anime girls are drawings not drawn realistically and (2) Asians have a very high occurrence of neotonous traits.
 
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