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Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)

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The thing is people who constantly discuss things around loli know exactly what it means.

"Loli may refer to: Lolita (term) (ロリ, rori), a Japanese slang term for a young girl who has not reached the age to sexual consent"









I said that if the discord would get closed/made private I'd upload it all. I couldn't read all of it while browsing so I decided its a good idea to just record everything should the case be that - yet again - people try to hide their shit so anyone can't see it, no matter what it is. If people got to hide something they must have a real damn reason for it. I didn't expect them to do it, but they did it.


I'm super tired right now. I have more stuff but tomorrow is another day.
 
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Did you stop watching early? Because Hisoka literally gets a boner for Gon like right after Nen is introduced to the plot.
Yeah someone send me a manga capture from HXH. I didn't read past the "auction" ark when they try to buy playstation and the blonde girl with a crooked nose dies.

Pedo it is, so fuck him. Some people argue that it's his "fighting lust". I don't buy it.
 
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The thing is people who constantly discuss things around loli know exactly what it means.

"Loli may refer to: Lolita (term) (ロリ, rori), a Japanese slang term for a young girl who has not reached the age to sexual consent"
The thing is discussing things around loli and acting on those fetishes are drastically different. To blast Era for talking about anime lolis is effectively charging them for a thought crime. However, if they were to actually do something to a real child, then throw the book at them. Those screenshots of that one Era member bragging about having sex with an actual underage girl were extremely damning because (1) the dude acted on his pedophilia tendencies and (2) the mod team did absolutely nothing until people outside the forum pointed it out.
 
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The thing is discussing things around loli and acting on those fetishes are drastically different. To blast Era for talking about anime lolis is effectively charging them for a thought crime. However, if they were to actually do something to a real child, then throw the book at them. Those screenshots of that one Era member bragging about having sex with an actual underage girl were extremely damning because (1) the dude acted on his pedophilia tendencies and (2) the mod team did absolutely nothing until people outside the forum pointed it out.
Even having these thoughts already tells you alot about a person and how far a certain individual would or could go if the circumstances were different. While the latter example you mentioned is far worse there are still similarites.

I wonder how these child molesters started to become child molesters? hmm....
 
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Even having these thoughts already tells you alot about a person and how far a certain individual would or could go if the circumstances were different. While the latter example you mentioned is far worse there are still similarites.

I wonder how these child molesters started to become child molesters? hmm....
How can child molesters start to become child molesters if by definition of the term, they already molested a child?

Edit: Reading your concluding statement again, are you suggesting that looking at loli art -> child molestations? I'm going to need to see the receipts for that.
 
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How can child molesters start to become child molesters if by definition of the term, they already molested a child?
I mean how do you think they became child molesters in the first place? By living a normal life? Watching normal porn? Or maybe because they are more into stuff that isnt really considered as "normal".

Anyways, im really t i r e d. and sorry for any misunderstandings in general, english isnt my native language but im trying to be as clear as i can.
 

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I remember Hisoka as a violent character, somewhat a creep around woman, but I don't remember him as being a pedophile.

Hisoka is perfect, physically. I find him beautiful.

I mean :



If you're being honest, as a woman, it's hard to say he's not gifted physically. I wish I could met someone who looked like him. If he can be as physically strong too, that would be great.

Stating a fact about someone's physical appearance or some of his qualities doesn't make you a pedo though. It's just being honest and not lying. I'm not the one craving on minors :messenger_winking:

I can forgive a looooooot of things if you're that beautiful, but not being a pedo though. If Hisoka is one, fuck him, but I stopped watching Hunter X Hunter a long time ago. It got boring quickly and the french dub is TERRIBLE.

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Just to answer a question that a lot of people I've been asking : no, I don't think watching safe content with underage people in it is a problem in itself. If you enjoy safe "moe", Card Captor Sakura or just like story with young people in them, it's fine. As long as it isn't about sexualization of minors or "naughty fan-service" around underage people.

I'm not that dumb, I can make the distinction between the two. I'm not saying all otakus are pedophiles, don't worry.
He gets boners off gon and hey walks up to the kids naked. He's def pedo
 
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I mean how do you think they became child molesters in the first place? By living a normal life? Watching normal porn? Or maybe because they are more into stuff that isnt really considered as "normal".

Anyways, im really t i r e d. and sorry for any misunderstandings in general, english isnt my native language but im trying to be as clear as i can.
You're asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking what are the causes behind pedophilia tendencies of a child molester? You don't make conclusions until you make a proper investigation and piece all the data/observations together.

And to add on top of that question, is there a neurological basis behind pedophilia? What parts of the brain are affected? What life experiences do child molesters have that may lead to their habits?

Or how about this alternative viewpoint. If these would-be child molesters use loli art as an outlet as opposed to using actual children as an outlet, wouldn't that be a more preferable outcome? Or do you prefer convicting them of what is basically a thought crime because if so, then that is no different from what we've been bashing Era for the longest time.
 
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Considering your post-split post history consists of nothing but hot takes and jabs at the new community, I’d say your history counts for nothing at this point. You aren’t the only one and you aren’t special. There was one person who used an exaggerated example to try to make a point. You ignored other discussion and misconstrued his example in order to take jabs at “NewGAF”. The Smollett and Kavanaugh threads were bigger anyway, so your point is invalid and just plain ignorant. Maybe you would’ve realised that if you actually participated and weren’t just keeping your account open to cast aspersions and sow discord when it gets too busy for your liking.

Yes, this thread has moved quickly, but there have been a lot of new people who signed up or returned just to post in it. It’s also the first major drama thread since E3, which had significantly boosted the user count prior to this thread being posted. GAF is on the up whether you like it or not.
Again there you go, making it personal without responding to anything said. Not sure why you've latched on to me like this, I don't even know who you are.

Whatever, you're not to be taken seriously.
 
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The thing is people who constantly discuss things around loli know exactly what it means.

"Loli may refer to: Lolita (term) (ロリ, rori), a Japanese slang term for a young girl who has not reached the age to sexual consent"
Lolis can also be completely legal characters who are just small, like Midna or Pearl (Splatoon) for instance. I think this is very much a "duck vs birds" situation. All ducks (pedos) are birds (lolicons) but not all birds are ducks.
 
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The metal gear community threads are dead on gaf and era for a reason. We have our own outer heaven. We have people here, at era, and at metacouncil. We are the true rulers of this videogame forum world.
MG community you say? I want in
 

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The thing is people who constantly discuss things around loli know exactly what it means.

"Loli may refer to: Lolita (term) (ロリ, rori), a Japanese slang term for a young girl who has not reached the age to sexual consent"


well here is the final part of it







I said that if the discord would get closed/made private I'd upload it all. I couldn't read all of it while browsing so I decided its a good idea to just record everything should the case be that - yet again - people try to hide their shit so anyone can't see it, no matter what it is. If people got to hide something they must have a real damn reason for it. I didn't expect them to do it, but they did it.


I'm super tired right now. I have more stuff but tomorrow is another day.


Autism overload from the music in those videos alone.
 
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You're asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking what are the causes behind pedophilia tendencies of a child molester? You don't make conclusions until you make a proper investigation and piece all the data/observations together.

And to add on top of that question, is there a neurological basis behind pedophilia? What parts of the brain are affected? What life experiences do child molesters have that may lead to their habits?

Or how about this alternative viewpoint. If these would-be child molesters use loli art as an outlet as opposed to using actual children as an outlet, wouldn't that be a more preferable outcome? Or do you prefer convicting them of what is basically a thought crime because if so, then that is no different from what we've been bashing Era for the longest time.
Sure it's a preferable outcome and is the exact reason I would oppose any tabled loli ban...but it doesn't mean I don't find loli absolutely fucking disgusting and it doesn't mean we should handwave it away when discussing whether or not ResetEra has a pedo problem. Anything of that nature, which sexualizes a childlike appearance, is going to attract creeps. Do I think everyone into loli is a pedo? No...but I'm willing to bet a not-insignificant number of them are.

This is also about more than just ResetEra and the Pedo Problem™, this is about ResetEra and the Rampant Hypocrisy Problem™. The comment from one of the discord screenshots about how they're purging chats because "people are contacting employers" did not go unnoticed. That specifically riled me for two reasons.

1) It's totally made up. It's pure fiction. It's a made up tale. It's a total fabrication.

2) This is ResetEra we're talking about...they have absolutely no qualms about contacting people's employers to get them fired. (which is likely it was the first thing they decided to accuse us of; “Accuse others of what you do.”)
Frankly, even if it is true (which it almost certainly isn't), I have no sympathy for them. While I do not condone such actions (and anyone thinking about it should stop and think before they act) it would be a taste of their own medicine.
Doesn't feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot does it?
 
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Sure it's a preferable outcome and is the exact reason I would oppose any tabled loli ban...but it doesn't mean I don't find loli absolutely fucking disgusting and it doesn't mean we should handwave it away when discussing whether or not ResetEra has a pedo problem. Anything of that nature, which sexualizes a childlike appearance, is going to attract creeps. Do I think everyone into loli is a pedo? No...but I'm willing to bet a not-insignificant number of them are.
I agree and I have stated in this thread that loli art isn't my thing either. However, the point I'm trying to make is if you keep that stuff private and not showing that stuff to children, then it's whatever to me. It's the part where the loli fanatics can no longer differentiate between reality and fiction where I start to get concerned.

This is also about more than just ResetEra and the Pedo Problem™, this is about ResetEra and the Rampant Hypocrisy Problem™. The comment from one of the discord screenshots about how they're purging chats because "people are contacting employers" did not go unnoticed. That specifically riled me for two reasons.

1) It's totally made up. It's pure fiction. It's a made up tale. It's a total fabrication.

2) This is ResetEra we're talking about...they have absolutely no qualms about contacting people's employers to get them fired. (which is likely it was the first thing they decided to accuse us of; “Accuse others of what you do.”)
Frankly, even if it is true (which it almost certainly isn't), I have no sympathy for them. While I do not condone such actions (and anyone thinking about it should stop and think before they act) it would be a taste of their own medicine.
Doesn't feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot does it?
Totally agree with the hypocrisy problem and it should be the main takeaway from this. ResetEra is also hypocritical for targeting anime-style games and applauding Sony's censorship on Japanese games. But then it's revealed that a bunch of these people have a fetish for things that are far more risqué than the content of Japanese games they want to be censored.

However, I will warn that we should be careful to not to fall under the trap of abandoning principles for the sake of taking down a common foe. That is how history repeats itself. That was why some users here kindly asked if there was actually a smoking gun that would put ResetEra's reputation in huge question and there was.
 

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Update :

Courtesy to Neogaf's member @Hado for his work and the time he spent on it, thanks you. I've proceeded through everything he found and I'll post some of the most interesting stuff on his behalf, to thanks him for his effort.

If you wonder why Resetera are purging and locking the discord servers from their community, read what follows.

This time, we are going to speak about the discord server from the "Gacha OT" thread, from Resetera.

Here, you can find a proof that this discord is indeed related to the "Gacha" community of Resetera : https://www.resetera.com/threads/japanese-mobile-gacha-games-ot-gatcha-wallet.911/page-110 (https://archive.fo/WNx2l)

You can find the "Gacha OT" thread here : https://www.resetera.com/threads/japanese-mobile-gacha-games-ot-gatcha-wallet.911/

PlanetSmasher (same pseudo on Resetera), one of Resetera's ancient moderator, is active in this server. However, it's important to note that he seems to be disgusted by all those "loli" and "pedo" discussions being so rampant. He's clearly not interested in that and never miss an occasion to tell how gross it is.



Precision #1 : @Hado had very little time to browse the discord, he only typed a few keywords and tried to get some content before they locked the server. He was focused on getting the most out of it before the obvious incoming lock-down.

Precision #2 : This discord server was pretty much open to anyone who had the link. You had to know it did exist and you had to be invited with the link to the discord, but outside of that, it wasn't "locked" like the discord sales server.

Let's dive deep into this :

Bloom
, one of this server most active member, telling everyone a game about "attractive childs" was released.



Bloom again, telling us something interesting about the porn he seems to like :



Kirito, asking his friend qon about advice on that "loli lesbian anime" :



Kirito precise what anime he's speaking about and qon answer him :



Addie (same pseudo on Resetera), telling us what he think about how a "loli" can be a "waifu" :



Euphoria14 (same pseudo on Resetera), speaking about "Pedo power"... whatever that means :



qon commenting on the "booty" of a character who's supposed to be in high-school :




Some interesting comment from Blood and Azusa (same pseudo on Resetera) about swimsuits and children :





Finally, Blood again, sharing his interesting input about Japan, only to be corrected by another member :



Something else is interesting. In the screen capture below, you can see one particular member - cw_sasuke (same pseudo on Resetera) venting about being banned 1 month for "excusing pedophilia", by Resetera's own terms : (proof : https://resetera.kiwifarms.net/post/15222795). Resetera's staff judge him as pedo-apologist, yet, he's still very active on Resetera and only got a slap on the wrist for it (one month).



cw_sasuke is one of the member from the "Media Create Sales" thread from Resetera, the one I spoke about earlier.

(proof of him being active and posting in Media Create sales thread : https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-22-2019-may-27-jun-02.121042/page-15#post-21749537) (archive : https://archive.fo/bJOIi)

Conclusion : It seems the sales discord isn't the only one with problematic content. It seems that each time you start to search into one of their Discord servers, you find weird pedo jokes, some comments that are borderline casual pedophilia, etc. Will Resetera try to say that everything was "carefully cropped" this time again ? I doubt some of this comments are open to interpretation.

Don't forget those are supposed to be video-games discord, related to Resetera's community, with potential minors participating. Now, imagine if we had access to all their discord servers and had all the time we wanted to search for content ? Imagine if we had access to Resetera's admin discord, just to see how they're dealing with all of those recent turns of event.

As a reminder, here's Resetera's official statement when the first "Resetera discord leaks" were released :


Again, there's nothing criminal in all of that, but in the light of those new elements, I don't think their initial statement about "context" and things being "carefully cropped" holds up that well now.
 
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Again, there's nothing criminal in all of that, but in the light of those new elements, I don't think their initial statement about "context" and things being "carefully cropped" holds up that well now.
This is also in the videos correct? Which would prove context and non cropping.
 

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I've been following this thread over the past few days and as much as I enjoy seeing RE being called out by their double standards and seeing them dig themselves deeper, I have to say I'm not comfortable over the posture people here and on social media have taken of seeing the enjoyment of media (mainly anime and videogames) depicting girls on their teens as undeniable proof of people being deviants.

I want to think that people here are mature and smart enough to differentiate between reality and fiction. And as long things stay restricted to that fiction, I see no need to belittle those who enjoy and consume such media. That kind of logic is what led to Sony's idiotic censorship policies and the same kind of environment on which RE ideologies thrive.
 

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I've been following this thread over the past few days and as much as I enjoy seeing RE being called out by their double standards and seeing them dig themselves deeper, I have to say I'm not comfortable over the posture people here and on social media have taken of seeing the enjoyment of media (mainly anime and videogames) depicting girls on their teens as undeniable proof of people being deviants.

I want to think that people here are mature and smart enough to differentiate between reality and fiction. And as long things stay restricted to that fiction, I see no need to belittle those who enjoy and consume such media. That kind of logic is what led to Sony's idiotic censorship policies and the same kind of environment on which RE ideologies thrive.
More like girls that look like 5 year olds.
 

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That's the thing, I've been on the internet long enough to see how these things quickly snowball out of control. Today, toddlercon is rightfully so pointed out as disgusting, tomorrow it extends to lolicon and when one realizes, stuff like Senran Kagura or Omega Labyrinth get censored at best, banned at worst. Gaf has already gone down this path once, and I'd hate to see it happen again. What's the point of fighting something unfair if we turn in that very same thing in the process?
 

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He gets boners off gon and hey walks up to the kids naked. He's def pedo
Don't get me wrong, Hisoka is a disgusting creep, but I don't think he got aroused because Gon was a kid, it's because he gets off on the idea of murdering strong people. He wasn't even interested in Gon until he found out about his potential and how he kept getting stronger and stronger. His attraction to strong people is a recurring theme in the series.
 
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some weird shit just happened with my pc lol

While uploading it completely froze, not even task manager was working for like 2-3mins then it worked and some tabs were open in my browser that i didnt even open
should do an entire system search for recent image files, just in case someone has dropped in some kiddie pron
 

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I've been following this thread over the past few days and as much as I enjoy seeing RE being called out by their double standards and seeing them dig themselves deeper, I have to say I'm not comfortable over the posture people here and on social media have taken of seeing the enjoyment of media (mainly anime and videogames) depicting girls on their teens as undeniable proof of people being deviants.

I want to think that people here are mature and smart enough to differentiate between reality and fiction. And as long things stay restricted to that fiction, I see no need to belittle those who enjoy and consume such media. That kind of logic is what led to Sony's idiotic censorship policies and the same kind of environment on which RE ideologies thrive.
 

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So Sqiddo was known in the Splatoon community, seems there's more than just him but you know who made those "Unavailable" tweets here. There's a comment "One of them was in their 20's and one of them was 12!
 
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That's the thing, I've been on the internet long enough to see how these things quickly snowball out of control. Today, toddlercon is rightfully so pointed out as disgusting, tomorrow it extends to lolicon and when one realizes, stuff like Senran Kagura or Omega Labyrinth get censored at best, banned at worst. Gaf has already gone down this path once, and I'd hate to see it happen again. What's the point of fighting something unfair if we turn in that very same thing in the process?
We won't turn into the thing we hate. Why? Two reasons. I think most of us are aware that it is a very real possibility, we've seen it happen once already. But more importantly...you're here. Well, not you specifically...but people like you. People who disagree. People who speak out when they think others are going too far. People who aren't afraid to throw their hat into the ring even if what they're saying goes against the popular opinion. Ultimately that is what creates monsters like ResetEra. Not their ideas, their politics, their willingness to use force or their hypocrisy, but the lack of anyone disagreeing with them, telling them that they shouldn't do things or pointing out flaws their arguments. Opposing forces help to keep each other in check; to ensure no one side goes too far.
 

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We won't turn into the thing we hate. Why? Two reasons. I think most of us are aware that it is a very real possibility, we've seen it happen once already. But more importantly...you're here. Well, not you specifically...but people like you. People who disagree. People who speak out when they think others are going too far. People who aren't afraid to throw their hat into the ring even if what they're saying goes against the popular opinion. Ultimately that is what creates monsters like ResetEra. Not their ideas, their politics, their willingness to use force or their hypocrisy, but the lack of anyone disagreeing with them, telling them that they shouldn't do things or pointing out flaws their arguments. Opposing forces help to keep each other in check; to ensure no one side goes too far.
Yeah it's not like anyone would get banned over speaking out against it.
 

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I have to say, I don’t like where some of this is going. It feels just as gross as what they do.

I don’t want to be a part of it, and only posted here to show my objection.

This is not the right way... in my opinion.
What’s not the right way?
 

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The icky feeling I get when reading this topic.

It seems like the first few posts were done with the best intent. It was the dogpile after and stuff like LooseyGoosey, that makes me a bit unsettled.

I feel like this thread was 45 pages too long of opinions and needed more facts.

Absolutely blast them if you can prove it, but some of this grey stuff, makes the options shared here look bad.
 

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The icky feeling I get when reading this topic.

It seems like the first few posts were done with the best intent. It was the dogpile after and stuff like LooseyGoosey, that makes me a bit unsettled.

I feel like this thread was 45 pages too long of opinions and needed more facts.

Absolutely blast them if you can prove it, but some of this grey stuff, makes the options shared here look bad.
There’re updates among the replies but they need to be in OP. That’s the right way or how I see it at least. Keep updating OP or put any new post with proof under the OP
 

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Seems like ResetERA admins won't even defend their own userbase and are scapegoating them with bans not protecting any of the communities but only protecting their own hides.

Spineless lot they are.
 

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I have to say, I don’t like where some of this is going. It feels just as gross as what they do.
I think you've got two types of people posting in here. A small number who think there is blatant evidence of the accusations, and a larger subset who are just enjoying the hypocrisy being exposed and poking fun. Don't forget, every chance these people get they label everyone here a Nazi, alt-right and other buzzfeed term of the week. They left here with a middle finger under the banner of being too virtuous and wholesome to remain, yet wallow in their own concentrated broth of toxicity.

The thread petered out a long time ago truth be told, but at least it 'started a conversation' and gave those a taste of their own medicine. Will they reflect or learn? Probably not. I agree overall it's getting a bit too serious now with people reaching. But you know what? A lot of people on that site are vile and this is what they do, so yeah I don't really have a lot of sympathy for them. They want equality, then this is equal and proportionate to what they do over there. I'm a fan of karma and embarrassing double standards being exposed so I won't lose any sleep over it.

There are good members over there too but again even those chose to leave here on the flimsiest of allegations yet are OK with other stuff when it fits their agenda.

 

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Anyways, still waiting for @cormack12's reply to my post. i was wondering about that Reddit image, and I was wondering if the ban was because of someone linking to Resetera site or not.
Sorry, I didn't see this - yeah, someone linked to it in /r/ hardware. Original is courtesy of voat.
 

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Sorry, I didn't see this - yeah, someone linked to it in /r/ hardware. Original is courtesy of voat.
So if the ban was because someone linking to Resetera site, then finally, peoples are slowly realizing it. Looks like Celine might have been right. Remember what she said?

'Resetera, be careful of what and how you word the news about this exposure'
 

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So if the ban was because someone linking to Resetera site, then finally, peoples are slowly realizing it. Looks like Celine might have been right. Remember what she said?

'Resetera, be careful of what and how you word the news about this exposure'
Gotta get creative about the exposure.
 
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Just a FYI. I removed the videos ánd ss's from this thread because they're no longer needed. If you have them in your history you can still see them.

I could have taken more time browsing through their discord, possibly discovering alot more but I have other stuff to do aswell in my life.
 
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and a larger subset who are just enjoying the hypocrisy being exposed and poking fun.
Very much so; and that's the camp I fall into.

I haven't actually seen any evidence yet, of legitimate deviancy. The behaviour is distasteful and I have been reminded, once agian, that Japan serves up some seriously suspicious hobbies.

What is glorious is to see Resetera squirm under their own tactics and frantically scramble to remove the evidence. What pathetic hypocrites they are.
 
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after yesterday im still weirded out that games like this exist. Like, whats the fucking point? It looks like there are just some animated sprites in it with mostly anime girls that look underage. How can you call that a video game.
 
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after yesterday im still weirded out that games like this exist. Like, whats the fucking point? It looks like there are just some animated sprites in it with mostly anime girls that look underage. How can you call that a video game.
Normalise it so they don't feel as much of a nonce?
 
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