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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread
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Jawmuncher
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Guarantee the not a hero DLC explains exactly why chris went from BSAA to New Umbrella
I imagine that the new Umbrella isn't actually related to the old one directly. Maybe someone used the money made by the old company to set up a new group dedicated to cleaning up BOWs.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
It seemed obvious to me that the Salt Mine lab was an improvised setup in the wake of the accident. No way that place had just always been there, you can easily tell just by seeing how slap-dash the whole setup it is that it was never meant to be a permanent location, just a staging ground. Some employees of the rival company probably made their way off the ship with some equipment desperately trying to concoct another dose of e-necrotoxin before being turned into molded. *Edit or perhaps the original plan was to indeed cut their losses by dosing and killing Evelyn, but seeing how the mines apparently connect to the baker's property they came into contact with Lucas, and decided to use Lucas to monitor Eve. One of the files mentioned that they had no idea exactly what would happen if an E-series didn't get it's dosages out in the field, maybe when they ran into Lucas they saw an opportunity to turn things into a typical RE morbid science experiment of figuring out just what an E-series is capable of in the wild.
ISee
Member
They even mention the raccoon city incident in a newspaper article (it was 16 years ago). The game is also called Resident Evil 7. It is absolutely not a (soft)reboot and this is not a Star Trek situation, all the other RE games happened and that's why people discuss the 'Redfield' stuff.
Kayo Police
Member
Did we ever find out about "The Family" from RE6?
Or maybe I'm remembering plot points from another series lol.
Or maybe I'm remembering plot points from another series lol.
I hope whatever monsters we get next are more than just black goo monsters. That is so played out now after 5 and Revelations 2. I do like the base molded but everything everything else was pretty generic. Jack's monster form could have been so much more inspired.
Marguerite's was the big stand out for me. Really scary shibito-vibes. I hope we see Lucas's monster form in upcoming DLC.
I think they really missed a chance not having a proto-molded enemy. The deputy with molded teeth growing out of his head was creepy and it'd spooky having something like that chase you down (maybe speaking human lines like help?) some molded animals wouldn't have gone a miss like a dog or something. RE7 just needed variety as familiarity kills horror.
Marguerite's was the big stand out for me. Really scary shibito-vibes. I hope we see Lucas's monster form in upcoming DLC.
I think they really missed a chance not having a proto-molded enemy. The deputy with molded teeth growing out of his head was creepy and it'd spooky having something like that chase you down (maybe speaking human lines like help?) some molded animals wouldn't have gone a miss like a dog or something. RE7 just needed variety as familiarity kills horror.
B-but the redesign...
B-but why would anyone make an anti BOW organization with the same name as the one who started all the mess...
*remembers the game has easter eggs to earlier games*
Oh... >_>
EDIT: I mean... I know the series is known for redesigning its characters, but I could tell who Jill was when Revelations got announced. When Chris appeared in RE7 (and I was already spoiled that he would), I was like "okay, he's gonna take his mask and... oh, that's not Chris. I wonder if he doesn't appear in this endin-- what?"
Orochinagis
Member
Would be funny if this new umbrella ends up being corrupted, and starts another saga
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah molded are lame. there's a certain abject horror to your average zombie or ganado, from the way they move to the noises they make.
Molded are just generic, with little of the enemy variety that made 1-5 interesting. There are more bosses in RE7 then regular enemies.
Molded are just generic, with little of the enemy variety that made 1-5 interesting. There are more bosses in RE7 then regular enemies.
Muscle Wizard
Banned
A lot of people are forgetting that the new Umbrella is actually the Umbrella Corps from the canon multiplayer game. I understand why people don't recognize it because that game sucked. The whole thing about them was that they were a merc group that would enter infected zones and confiscate items, samples, and personnel and were able to do so because the BSAA is the only group that actually handles outbreaks and are too taxed to find them doing this.
I'm wondering if Ethan really is an original Umbrella worker. If he was, you'd think he'd have more of a reaction to "Redfield", either being the guy who thwarted his ex-employers messes numerous times or actually being one of their top agents using an assumed name.
I'm wondering if Ethan really is an original Umbrella worker. If he was, you'd think he'd have more of a reaction to "Redfield", either being the guy who thwarted his ex-employers messes numerous times or actually being one of their top agents using an assumed name.
J_Macgrady
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It doesn't kill the horror for me, but yeah it's weird that this is the only mainline entry that has no variety in the enemies.
As well with regards to Mia's disappearance. Oh, we both work in a very deadly work environment, maybe my wife's disappearance might be related considering she was on assignment, perhaps I could ask someone...
Orochinagis
Member
Those guys even shares the same dying animation from the lickers
I just attributed Chris' appearance to the new engine and new approach to capturing actor's likenesses. Compared to RE5-Revelations-6 he looks different, but compared to REmake not so much.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Umbrella was probably repurposed into an anti-BOW organization.
Was that really Chris? His model looks pretty different. I thought it was their missing long-lost brother.
Jawmuncher
Member
REmake chris is a stretch too unless he got infected with anti-aging
Maybe the new Umbrella has a policy of drug testing its employees. No more ass-injections for Chris.
Already Torn
Banned
I think the reasoning here would be:
1. Ethan faked his death, so he's trying to hide from Umbrella. He might even try to contact BSAA to get her back, which is why he might recognize "Redfield".
2. Ethan wants Mia to stay out of the bioweapons biz, which is why he's so suspicious of her activities and seems to care about what's going on in regards to her more than the crazy shit happening. Like more "what do you know?" than "why are you a monster Ghost person?"
3. Mia didn't tell Ethan about her job because she knew he'd hate it, that's why he stops loving her too or whatever.
4. Ethan doesn't recognize that "Umbrella" is on the chopper?
Anyway, just realized "Grandma's Room" is actually marges, because Mia is mom. Pretty cool.
Robdraggoo
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Just finished the game earlier today and trying to catch up on the thread lol
Seems i am the only one to think the dream sequence was a memory?
The last part of the game has Ethan flashing back to eArlier in the game with the Mia fight.
I interpreted the dream sequence with Jack and Zoe was the same thing. Perhaps after you pass out and before you wake up at the dinner table. Hell, good jack and zoeprobably fixed your hand.
Mia seemed to be fighting evelines control so why not Jack.
Perhaps they try and help him before they go crazy again.
Seems i am the only one to think the dream sequence was a memory?
The last part of the game has Ethan flashing back to eArlier in the game with the Mia fight.
I interpreted the dream sequence with Jack and Zoe was the same thing. Perhaps after you pass out and before you wake up at the dinner table. Hell, good jack and zoeprobably fixed your hand.
Mia seemed to be fighting evelines control so why not Jack.
Perhaps they try and help him before they go crazy again.
The Ethan being an Umbrella employee theory is creative but lacks any convincing pointers. The only existing link really is the name on the list in RE5, and even then that scientist is supposedly deceased. And if I were to fake my death, I would at least make sure to adopt a new name for myself.
I believe Ethan is just kind of silent as means to allow the player to self-insert as much as possible. The game wants you to react, not the character you are playing. The less of a character the character is, the more you become them.
I believe Ethan is just kind of silent as means to allow the player to self-insert as much as possible. The game wants you to react, not the character you are playing. The less of a character the character is, the more you become them.
J_Macgrady
Member
I feel like I would have to assume that Capcom thought nobody would question that this is him to believe that's Chris with no explanation. I have to wait for the DLC, but there has to be a reason other than the technology that they're using. This is a pretty big redesign to just shove it at the end with no hints in the game or from the developers themselves as to why this redesign happened. That's crazier to me than any of the theories I saw.
Already Torn
Banned
Ethan has some pretty strong character traits though! Like how he hates bugs more than anything else in the world.
Oh yeah that game. The twist could be that Chris is just in it for the money now not that he's turned bad.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Look up fungal networks, Evelyn absorbed Jack and Zoe's consciousness the same way she was trying to steal Ethan's, absorbing them into her own collective consciousness, her "family". What we saw was just a visualization of Ethan's consciousness meeting the Baker's inside Evelyn's hivemind.
MHWilliams
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The email he receives tells him to come to Dulvey. He never sees the "Stay Away" video. You find the laptop she recorded it on still on the ship.
A lengthy note about Umbrella secret operations lists a Level 9 (of 10) agent who knows about what's left of RE5's Africa project. That agent is Ethan W (Deceased). The guess is that's Ethan, who faked his death.
Also, Mia's escape tape was filmed on July 19, 2017 at 9:28 pm. That's a day after she sent the email to Ethan.
orichalcos
Member
Ok, this is new for me. The same Umbrella Corps logo, just different color. (Not the regular logo):
Already Torn
Banned
So you're saying that "Redfield" is an Umbrella merc with a gas mask who tries to receive bioweapon samples after an outbreak?
I think we can assume that Ethan saw the "Stay Away" video three years ago, which is why the email saying to come find her was so strange. Like she sent him that video like she sent the babysitting one.
He looks more similar to his RE1 design. Just wish some stubble and aged up a bit.
He ain't punching any boulders with those arms.
Jawmuncher
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Any idea what this Hungry Papa's Burger mug is a reference to? It was a bonus item as part of the Japanese collectors edition
Probably related to the DLC.
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Any idea what this Hungry Papa's Burger mug is a reference to? It was a bonus item as part of the Japanese collectors edition
The Jack DLC? Don't you have to feed him or something.
The game should've done like The Evil Within and had chapter headings. If only so that when you walked back into the prologue basement at the end, the words "Chapter VII: The Resident Evil" (as an homage to "Chapter 15: An Evil Within") could appear. Because Evie is the resident... source of... evil...
MHWilliams
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I mean, that's a possibility, if she sent it to him during the ship outbreak, but you have control over her during that entire time and you never send it.
But he didn't get an edited version like many believe. It's easier to believe he only gets the email.
Already Torn
Banned
I think he got the whole thing. I was assuming it was the kind of thing where you record the video and then it gets uploaded. Why would she record the first video if someone had to physically access the laptop to see it? Why would she not send the second one if she wanted to see it? But yeah it's not edited, that's just at the beginning for dramatic effect.
I don't know why you would assume Ethan didn't see the video.
He looks more similar to his RE1 design. Just wish some stubble and aged up a bit.
I know new Chris is based off an actual person, but when I see him I think of Richard Armitage in Strike Back.
Triscuitable
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Not to mention in the opening, Ethan isn't the one watching it. You're seeing her record it from her POV.
While I'd wager his appearance was changed because the game's director or art designers wanted it changed, it wasn't modeled after his voice actor. Like a lot of other characters in this game, his appearance is based off another model.
Jawmuncher
Member
Still wanna know why they dropped RCS.
Is this chris voice the same one in vendetta?
Is this chris voice the same one in vendetta?
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Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
I thought the same thing, it's just a little too unrealistic for Ethan to have an 'out of body' experience like that, and yes I realize that me just saying something is unrealistic may seem odd in the context of the game.
I think that conversation must have taken place in real-time when Zoe was patching Ethan's hand up, but the pain or being delirious must have prevented Ethan from recalling it earlier. Him being KO'ed on the ship was the first chance he had to get some rest through out the game, so his mind probably recalled those memories.
It seems like the Bakers, like Mia, were able to partially resist Eve's control or maybe they're able to 'revert' when Eve is resting or probably doing something else and has lesser control over them. Could be that Mia sent that email in one of those moments she was resisting with the coordinates of the Baker farm to Ethan.
Right, I should have just said 'modeled after a real person's likeness', and the same problem would exist of finding someone who looks like an existing character.
Already Torn
Banned
I don't think so. Lucas's note is pretty explicit that Mia is the only one who switches back and forth (that's why he locks her into the basement). Jack is basically always full blown nutso at that point, and he's also scratched out the eyes of the picture of Zoe so they'd never be in the same room together. The notes also mention the consciousness thing so I think it's pretty intuitive that that's what's going on, it's less unrealistic than what you're suggesting. The stuff in the guest house in the end is Evie trying to scare Ethan off, which the couch conversation doesn't achieve.
Thinking about it, Lucas's email to the organization was from before the Bakers started kidnapping people in 2015, so maybe he was involved with the organization before the ship crashed as he would have been reversed almost immediately. I still doubt he caused the ship to crash or whatever.
I also believe that Mia is being truthful when she says "It wasn't me" who sent the email, it was probably Eve forcing her to do so.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
This was mentioned before in this thread, but I'm fairly sure no one answered it. How in the hell is Zoe not affected by Eveline?
We know why Lucas isn't, but Zoe? That also makes her appearance in the background with 'normal' Jack not make that much sense? And how does she know about the serum?
WHY GAF? WHYYY?!? :<
We know why Lucas isn't, but Zoe? That also makes her appearance in the background with 'normal' Jack not make that much sense? And how does she know about the serum?
WHY GAF? WHYYY?!? :<