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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread

I don't know any horror stories that make good use of evil children. it's always my least favorite part about them.

The Shining does it right I guess. and I hear babadook is okay with it? never saw that

The Shining is the obvious one like you say, and is probably the chief culprit for the over-use of children in horror. Donner's The Omen is a cracker. Village of the Damned and Children of the Corn are also notables.

Generally though I agree that it's an outrageously done-into-the-ground cliché and not actually all that scary. And RE7 is no exception on that front. When it turns to focus on Eveline, the bottom drops out of the game and all the good work it puts in towards being sincerely creepy is lost.

Granny Eve was infected with foxdie tho

holy shit
 
Some mysteries are best left hinted at and unanswered.

Definitely.

I really liked the core premise - some family get infected by some Resident Evil bioweapon and you have to spend a night at their house. But they make it so complicated.

I was sure they were going to tie it into pre-existing Resident Evil lore. Like, some Uroboros had washed up next to the family. The series already has so much going on. Hell, I'm sure they already have an evil little girl running around since a few games ago.

Ah well, it's a shame because I was really interested in seeing how they'd tie everything together, but I didn't expect them to add more craziness to the Resident Evil canon to do so.
 
Definitely.

I really liked the core premise - some family get infected by some Resident Evil bioweapon and you have to spend a night at their house. But they make it so complicated.

I was sure they were going to tie it into pre-existing Resident Evil lore. Like, some Uroboros had washed up next to the family. The series already has so much going on. Hell, I'm sure they already have an evil little girl running around since a few games ago.

Ah well, it's a shame because I was really interested in seeing how they'd tie everything together, but I didn't expect them to add more craziness to the Resident Evil canon to do so.
Was it really that complicated? The only difference is that this time Umbrella didn't make the bioweapon, and Umbrella captures a sample at the end. Better than Project W or the League of 6 or whatever nonsense.
 
Was it really that complicated? The only difference is that this time Umbrella didn't make the bioweapon, and Umbrella captures a sample at the end. Better than Project W or the League of 6 or whatever nonsense.

It would be more effective if it wasn't so complicated, is what I mean. Its core premise is quite a bit different to prior Resident Evil games I've played, and as such it should have been anchored to something established for balance, not a new organization making a new bioweapon. But they add new things to the canon, meaning that the focus is taken away from the core of Ethan vs. The Baker family.
 
Just beat this.

In the salt mine there's a report by a mole in the Baker family...I assumed it was Zoe, but Wikipedia is saying it's Lucas? So Lucas actually wasn't affected by Eveline in the same way Jack and Maguerite were and is just playing along? And somehow Eveline never figured this out?

Zoe made more sense to me because she's the only "infected" character in the game that never shows any signs of infection. I assumed Eveline eventually caught wise to her so she eventually hid.
 
Just beat this.

In the salt mine there's a report by a mole in the Baker family...I assumed it was Zoe, but Wikipedia is saying it's Lucas? So Lucas actually wasn't affected by Eveline in the same way Jack and Maguerite were and is just playing along? And somehow Eveline never figured this out?

Zoe made more sense to me because she's the only "infected" character in the game that never shows any signs of infection. I assumed Eveline eventually caught wise to her so she eventually hid.

Lucas is basically the cause for everything in RE7. He blew up the ship coming through the bayou, even before he was infected he was doing strange experiments in engineering and explosives and practicing torture on 'friends' at school and was responsible for a few local deaths/disappearances. But he was a suck-up to his parents who believed he was a good boy (but as we see in the first tape, there were all sorts of rumors about their son Lucas, "a bad seed apparently," as Andre puts it. The explosion of the ship wasn't just him being a trouble maker, there's implications he contacted an organization and was working with them which is how he knew about the ship coming through, knew that Eveline was on-board beforehand from their intel, and ambushed it. And Eveline wasn't too happy with Lucas, you can see her being upset with Lucas telling Ethan stuff in the video tape about 'turning back the clock', but Lucas was playing along with the whole family deal in a similar way his parents thought he was a good boy without murderous intent before they became murderous due to Eveline. But Lucas was basically just riding that train, and ultimately ditches when he realizes Ethan is going to ruin everything.
 
Lucas is basically the cause for everything in RE7. He blew up the ship coming through the bayou, even before he was infected he was doing strange experiments in engineering and explosives and practicing torture on 'friends' at school and was responsible for a few local deaths/disappearances. But he was a suck-up to his parents who believed he was a good boy (but as we see in the first tape, there were all sorts of rumors about their son Lucas, "a bad seed apparently," as Andre puts it. The explosion of the ship wasn't just him being a trouble maker, there's implications he contacted an organization and was working with them which is how he knew about the ship coming through, knew that Eveline was on-board beforehand from their intel, and ambushed it. And Eveline wasn't too happy with Lucas, you can see her being upset with Lucas telling Ethan stuff in the video tape about 'turning back the clock', but Lucas was playing along with the whole family deal in a similar way his parents thought he was a good boy without murderous intent before they became murderous due to Eveline. But Lucas was basically just riding that train, and ultimately ditches when he realizes Ethan is going to ruin everything.

Lucas attacked the ship? Is that in any files?
 
Lucas is basically the cause for everything in RE7. He blew up the ship coming through the bayou, even before he was infected he was doing strange experiments in engineering and explosives and practicing torture on 'friends' at school and was responsible for a few local deaths/disappearances. But he was a suck-up to his parents who believed he was a good boy (but as we see in the first tape, there were all sorts of rumors about their son Lucas, "a bad seed apparently," as Andre puts it. The explosion of the ship wasn't just him being a trouble maker, there's implications he contacted an organization and was working with them which is how he knew about the ship coming through, knew that Eveline was on-board beforehand from their intel, and ambushed it. And Eveline wasn't too happy with Lucas, you can see her being upset with Lucas telling Ethan stuff in the video tape about 'turning back the clock', but Lucas was playing along with the whole family deal in a similar way his parents thought he was a good boy without murderous intent before they became murderous due to Eveline. But Lucas was basically just riding that train, and ultimately ditches when he realizes Ethan is going to ruin everything.

Wait, where is it said about him blowing up the ship?!
 
Did anyone here wish there was an ending you and jack drives into hen sunset? I really loved that character and the banter/chemistry Between him and Ethan. That hive sequence gave me feels :(

Jack had a hard life.
 
Lucas blowing up the ship would be dumb as hell. All I got from the game was he found it with his dad they got infected and he was found by whatever company and "cured" and begun collaborating with them.
 
Just beat this.

In the salt mine there's a report by a mole in the Baker family...I assumed it was Zoe, but Wikipedia is saying it's Lucas? So Lucas actually wasn't affected by Eveline in the same way Jack and Maguerite were and is just playing along? And somehow Eveline never figured this out?

Zoe made more sense to me because she's the only "infected" character in the game that never shows any signs of infection. I assumed Eveline eventually caught wise to her so she eventually hid.
If it was Zoe she wouldn't need the serum from Ethan :p

I don't think Lucas blew up the ship, I think it just crashed. Makes what happens to the rest of the Bakers more tragic too.

My headcanon is that Lucas is the reason the Baker house has goofy scooby foo traps and secret passages though because of that attic story.

It would be more effective if it wasn't so complicated, is what I mean. Its core premise is quite a bit different to prior Resident Evil games I've played, and as such it should have been anchored to something established for balance, not a new organization making a new bioweapon. But they add new things to the canon, meaning that the focus is taken away from the core of Ethan vs. The Baker family.
That makes sense! I think is was born of the need to fight back against "This isn't Resident Evil" claims, as well as providing a future route for the series because well... what do you do after the fallout from 6? Now you have this cool warring organizations story with a possible heel turn from Chris, assuming that's Chris? And who even knows what the D series is.
 
I wonder if age has anything to do with how fast the infection spreads, or at least its potential influence. Jack and Margeurite were old, but Lucas, Zoey, Mia, and Ethan aren't. They seemed to be able to stave off/delay the infection to an extent. Although Lucas probably chose to embrace it somewhat because it effectively made him immortal and gave him bodies to play with.
 
If it was Zoe she wouldn't need the serum from Ethan :p

I don't think Lucas blew up the ship, I think it just crashed. Makes what happens to the rest of the Bakers more tragic too.

My headcanon is that Lucas is the reason the Baker house has goofy scooby foo traps and secret passages though because of that attic story.

I think the ship was destroyed by Eveline during the storm. Most probably because she killed all crewmen and there was nobody left to steer it.

There is one note/receipt stating that Jack ordered the installation of a shadow wall by handymen (most probably before the eveline accident). So the hidden passages are of Jacks doings.

I wonder if age has anything to do with how fast the infection spreads, or at least its potential influence. Jack and Margeurite were old, but Lucas, Zoey, Mia, and Ethan aren't. They seemed to be able to stave off/delay the infection to an extent. Although Lucas probably chose to embrace it somewhat because it effectively made him immortal and gave him bodies to play with.

Mia knows about E-001 and tries to fight her of, therefore it takes a long time.
Ethan's infection gets worse pretty fast (over one night). His hallucinations get very bad at the end, he even sees a non existing mia chasing him with a chainsaw. But at this point he also knows about E-001 and tries to fight it off the best way he can, by killing Eveline.
I also imagine Jack and his wife being more susceptible to Eveline because of her form/appearance. She probably just looked like a frightened, vulnerable child to them and as parents they for sure wanted to take her in (at least over night) and protect her. Making it more easy for her to influence them.
Lucas ,on the other side, is for sure a Psychopath who doesn't care about a frightened child so Evelines influence wasn't as strong.
Not sure about Zoe though... Maybe she got suspicious once she noticed how her parents began to change.
 
Sorry what, Lucas blew up the ship? where was this said? I assumed it was Eveline who destroyed it.

Eveline was acting up on the ship even before it got near the Baker Plantation which definitely didn't help things, but she wasn't the one who blew it up.

So Lucas' whole deal in RE7 being about explosives isn't coincidence, IE the exploding cake, exploding TV, trip wires, exploding boxes. He has this big thing for explosives as the game makes very clear. We also know when he was kid he is super into engineering and robotics, as well as sports. Also his parents seemed to have suspected there was something wrong with him but not in the way there was ACTUALLY something wrong with him. Notes from the 2000s/early 90s shows some sides of the Bakers before Eveline and the like came into their life. Marguerite was taking Lucas to the local hospital to be mentally checked. He basically was a genius in some fields, but mentally handicapped in others the game more than subtly hints at. Of course, his parents didn't see he was also deep down quite twisted and thought he was a 'good boy'. It's also why despite the fact he's in his 20s he is living with his parents and his room is still like a child's room (and despite being a genius in other ways, his spelling is terrible).

Lucas is infected like everyone else, but he's being provided a chemical by an unknown third party to block out the mind control, and he's spying on Eveline and his family for the organization. Now the current popular 'theory' is that Lucas met this organization and was contacted and provided this deal after he was already infected, but that doesn't make any sense. If he met them after Eveline would've already known about his spying since she would already be in his head as he was already infected. And the whole mine system and facility next to the Baker Plantation that's literally connected to the Baker Guest House basement wasn't built in a day.

Eveline was already infesting the ship and going haywire into her obsession with family before this, so it might have been fate it was ultimately going to wreck anyways. But Eveline doesn't cause the multiple explosions on the ship to go off simultaneously. She wasn't planning to wreck the ship, just to convert everyone to her family. Now for timeframe, we see that Mia encounters Eveline, and Eveline breaks apart the section of the ship that Mia is on which causes Mia to be flung out. Mia she looks around as she falls and see's multiple segments of the ship exploding all at the same time and everyone being pushed out to the bayou, and then she falls into the water.

Now Eveline's 'supersonic wave' thing doesn't cause explosions, we see her use this later in the game and when she uses it that rips off the hull that Mia is on it doesn't explode, just tears it off.

Now the time frame of this has Lucas telling his father he 'found' a wrecked ship in the bayou, and the only two survivors they find are Eveline and Mia. Also pay attention to where the ship crashes at. It's literally right next to some organizations facility, laboratory ad mines, it's not even an arms throw away. The location it very much not coincidental. To mention with this, Eveline wasn't on the ship either, she was found in the water like Mia, implying she was blown off the ship as well. The files at the end of the game credits sequence mentions that Eveline being separated from the needed stabilizer has never been tested past 6 months, but this unknown organization wanted to see what happened with an Eveline unit being off stabilizers to her own ends over a prolonged amount of time (which is why the file ain the credits from 2014 mentions they didn't know much about the mold and corpses and hadn't tested past 6 months of no stabilizers, this was very much a planned experiment to have Eveline away from her stabilizers for an extended period of time, essentially an experiment and not an accident.).

In Eveline's Room there's several child pictures. One is of the ship and it exploding, but among those being blown off the ship is a drawing of herself. But it plays into what she wanted anyways, as we see in another picture in the same area everyone gets to rest here and become her family.

The Baker Family even before everything happens were already involved in some shit. The construction of the shadow puzzles in their house some other questionable elements were put in their house in the 90s & early 2000s. There's evidence in the receipts and other elements about that the Baker Family had their fingers in some pies, as it were, even before this all happened.

Probably the bits that'll shine even more light on all of this will be the upcoming "Daughters" chapter in the Banned Footage DLC and the upcoming Not A Hero DLC. But there's a lot of evidence the Baker's weren't just by chance victims of the ship crashing.
 
What about the entire village in Resident Evil 4? The credits show them living their lives before the plagas :(. They weren't always evil asshole villagers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_weHtgqZ5Bs
I guess they count too, but then I would have to include Raccoon City, Kijuju, and Lanshiang. I'm going more by a character basis, and the Bakers and Lisa are much more focused characters than the village axe guy, the chainsaw sisters, and the village chief.
 
Eveline was acting up on the ship even before it got near the Baker Plantation which definitely didn't help things, but she wasn't the one who blew it up.

So Lucas' whole deal in RE7 being about explosives isn't coincidence, IE the exploding cake, exploding TV, trip wires, exploding boxes. He has this big thing for explosives as the game makes very clear. We also know when he was kid he is super into engineering and robotics, as well as sports. Also his parents seemed to have suspected there was something wrong with him but not in the way there was ACTUALLY something wrong with him. Notes from the 2000s/early 90s shows some sides of the Bakers before Eveline and the like came into their life. Marguerite was taking Lucas to the local hospital to be mentally checked. He basically was a genius in some fields, but mentally handicapped in others the game more than subtly hints at. Of course, his parents didn't see he was also deep down quite twisted and thought he was a 'good boy'. It's also why despite the fact he's in his 20s he is living with his parents and his room is still like a child's room (and despite being a genius in other ways, his spelling is terrible).

Lucas is infected like everyone else, but he's being provided a chemical by an unknown third party to block out the mind control, and he's spying on Eveline and his family for the organization. Now the current popular 'theory' is that Lucas met this organization and was contacted and provided this deal after he was already infected, but that doesn't make any sense. If he met them after Eveline would've already known about his spying since she would already be in his head as he was already infected.

Eveline was already infesting the ship and going haywire into her obsession with family before this, so it might have been fate it was ultimately going to wreck anyways. But Eveline doesn't cause the multiple explosions on the ship to go off simultaneously. She wasn't planning to wreck the ship, just to convert everyone to her family. Now for timeframe, we see that Mia encounters Eveline, and Eveline breaks apart the section of the ship that Mia is on which causes Mia to be flung out. Mia she looks around as she falls and see's multiple segments of the ship exploding all at the same time and everyone being pushed out to the bayou, and then she falls into the water.

Now Eveline's 'supersonic wave' thing doesn't cause explosions, we see her use this later in the game and when she uses it that rips off the hull that Mia is on it doesn't explode, just tears it off.

Now the time frame of this has Lucas telling his father he 'found' a wrecked ship in the bayou, and the only two survivors they find are Eveline and Mia. Also pay attention to where the ship crashes at. It's literally right next to some organizations facility, laboratory ad mines, it's not even an arms throw away. The location it very much not coincidental. To mention with this, Eveline wasn't on the ship either, she was found in the water like Mia, implying she was blown off the ship as well. The files at the end of the game mention that Eveline being separated from the needed stabilizer has never been tested past 6 months, but this unknown organization wanted to see what happened over a prolonged amount of time (which is why the file at the end from 2014 mentions they didn't know much about the mold and corpses and hadn't tested past 6 months of no stabilizers, this was very much a planned experiment to have Eveline away from her stabilizers for an extended period of time, essentially an experiment and not an accident.).

In Eveline's Room there's several child pictures. One is of the ship and it exploding, but among those being blown off the ship is a drawing of herself. But it plays into what she wanted anyways, as we see in another picture in the same area everyone gets to rest here and become her family.

The Baker Family even before everything happens were already involved in some shit. The construction of the shadow puzzles in their house some other questionable elements were put in their house in the 90s & early 2000s. There's evidence in the receipts and other elements about that the Baker Family had their fingers in some pies, as it were, even before this all happened.

Probably the bits that'll shine even more light on all of this will be the upcoming "Daughters" chapter in the Banned Footage DLC and the upcoming Not A Hero DLC. But there's a lot of evidence the Baker's weren't just by chance victims of the ship crashing.

Is it actually outright said he did it, though? Eveline's supersonic wave thing doesn't cause explosions, but we see it rip clean holes in sheet metal and blast parts of the house to smithereens. A cargo ship is full of explosive stuff, eventually if she does enough damage to the ship you'd reach a point where shit would start blowing, which is what I assumed happened.
 
I luv you Dusk but I dont think Lucas had anything to do with the boat, you are reaching with the whole explosives thing :3
 
I'm pretty sure the boat explosion happened before it got near Louisiana. How would Lucas go out in open waters and set explosives on a cargo ship? And why would he let his family take in a BOW if he knew what it was? Him being a sick puppy before infection and hanging around for shits and giggles after being freed from Eveline's control seems to be more in character.
 
Eveline was acting up on the ship even before it got near the Baker Plantation which definitely didn't help things, but she wasn't the one who blew it up.

So Lucas' whole deal in RE7 being about explosives isn't coincidence, IE the exploding cake, exploding TV, trip wires, exploding boxes. He has this big thing for explosives as the game makes very clear. We also know when he was kid he is super into engineering and robotics, as well as sports. Also his parents seemed to have suspected there was something wrong with him but not in the way there was ACTUALLY something wrong with him. Notes from the 2000s/early 90s shows some sides of the Bakers before Eveline and the like came into their life. Marguerite was taking Lucas to the local hospital to be mentally checked. He basically was a genius in some fields, but mentally handicapped in others the game more than subtly hints at. Of course, his parents didn't see he was also deep down quite twisted and thought he was a 'good boy'. It's also why despite the fact he's in his 20s he is living with his parents and his room is still like a child's room (and despite being a genius in other ways, his spelling is terrible).

Lucas is infected like everyone else, but he's being provided a chemical by an unknown third party to block out the mind control, and he's spying on Eveline and his family for the organization. Now the current popular 'theory' is that Lucas met this organization and was contacted and provided this deal after he was already infected, but that doesn't make any sense. If he met them after Eveline would've already known about his spying since she would already be in his head as he was already infected. And the whole mine system and facility next to the Baker Plantation that's literally connected to the Baker Guest House basement wasn't built in a day.

Eveline was already infesting the ship and going haywire into her obsession with family before this, so it might have been fate it was ultimately going to wreck anyways. But Eveline doesn't cause the multiple explosions on the ship to go off simultaneously. She wasn't planning to wreck the ship, just to convert everyone to her family. Now for timeframe, we see that Mia encounters Eveline, and Eveline breaks apart the section of the ship that Mia is on which causes Mia to be flung out. Mia she looks around as she falls and see's multiple segments of the ship exploding all at the same time and everyone being pushed out to the bayou, and then she falls into the water.

Now Eveline's 'supersonic wave' thing doesn't cause explosions, we see her use this later in the game and when she uses it that rips off the hull that Mia is on it doesn't explode, just tears it off.

Now the time frame of this has Lucas telling his father he 'found' a wrecked ship in the bayou, and the only two survivors they find are Eveline and Mia. Also pay attention to where the ship crashes at. It's literally right next to some organizations facility, laboratory ad mines, it's not even an arms throw away. The location it very much not coincidental. To mention with this, Eveline wasn't on the ship either, she was found in the water like Mia, implying she was blown off the ship as well. The files at the end of the game mention that Eveline being separated from the needed stabilizer has never been tested past 6 months, but this unknown organization wanted to see what happened over a prolonged amount of time (which is why the file at the end from 2014 mentions they didn't know much about the mold and corpses and hadn't tested past 6 months of no stabilizers, this was very much a planned experiment to have Eveline away from her stabilizers for an extended period of time, essentially an experiment and not an accident.).

In Eveline's Room there's several child pictures. One is of the ship and it exploding, but among those being blown off the ship is a drawing of herself. But it plays into what she wanted anyways, as we see in another picture in the same area everyone gets to rest here and become her family.

The Baker Family even before everything happens were already involved in some shit. The construction of the shadow puzzles in their house some other questionable elements were put in their house in the 90s & early 2000s. There's evidence in the receipts and other elements about that the Baker Family had their fingers in some pies, as it were, even before this all happened.

Probably the bits that'll shine even more light on all of this will be the upcoming "Daughters" chapter in the Banned Footage DLC and the upcoming Not A Hero DLC. But there's a lot of evidence the Baker's weren't just by chance victims of the ship crashing.

A more easy explanation for the explosions is the killed off crew. Eveline killed everybody on board the ship during a storm (a heavy storm according to some notes) and the ship steered and crashed into the mainland/bayou because of this. Causing fires and explosions on board. We even witness this in the Mia-ship flashback.
Mia reaches the lowest floor, confronting Eveline but has to go back up because Eveline ran away. On the way back the ship starts to burn down, most probably because of machine failure caused by missing (dead) or panicked crew. We also don't know what else was on board the ship, maybe something under great preassure or something flammable. I seriously doubt Lucas was the reason for the ship explosions.
 
That makes sense! I think is was born of the need to fight back against "This isn't Resident Evil" claims, as well as providing a future route for the series because well... what do you do after the fallout from 6? Now you have this cool warring organizations story with a possible heel turn from Chris, assuming that's Chris? And who even knows what the D series is.

As I think about it I think you're right. It probably was intended as both "This is a full Resident Evil / Biohazard", as the game does a lot of both with the Bakers and presenting a new bioweapon threat. And you're right, after Resident Evil 6 there isn't a ton of old ground that hasn't been retread, so they were probably trying to set up something new entirely. Not sure they pulled it off well though.
 
You're making several tough leaps to reach that conclusion. Tanker ships usually carry flammable substances, those ignite when machine failures happen around them. The ship also blew up in open waters. The storm carried the wreckage inland.
 
I destroyed the ship

But real talk. I think it was Lucas who destroyed the ship. It seems odd, but not like that's anything new for RE.
Lucas was already fucked up, and he might have been in contact with whatever evil corporation there was before the ship.
So he blows it up, and is able to get the baker family over there to "save" the experiment. With the birthday tape, we know he can make explosives and traps after all.
 
What was the serum for anyway since Eve re contaminates Mia and Zoe, feels like kind of pointless

Been thinking about that since my replay. The D-Series serum killed Jack, but couldn't completely cure either Zoe or Mia.

It's possible the serum is capable of destroying infected cells, but not the fungus itself. Only the E-Necrotoxin is capable of destroying the metamycete.

I think it's the same as Lucas got, but it became obvious to Evaline that they were out of her control because she didn't pretend like she was.

Possible too, but the Serum killed Jack. I assume it would remove the Fungus effects. Lucas wanted to stay infected, his dialogue sure indicates the serum is potentially damaging to the status quo.

There's also the possibility the vial became damaged in the scuffle. It did get a beating while being carried by Ethan.

Or Zoe was wrong about it being enough for two.
 
That's strange. key card locations are fixed...

You got the secret ending!

Blue stands for Umbrella.

reloaded a save before i got the key cards and it was fine this time. also watched a recording of what happened with the ps4 share stuff. looks like i got the red card then when i went to pick up the blue the prompt showed up twice and I clicked it twice which somehow replaced the red one with blue.
 
She's dead if you try and cure her, but if you leave her, I don't see a reason for her to be dead. She's probably alive in the good ending.

She's in that weird dream sequence with Jack. There's really no reason to think she's dead at the end, she probably got scooped up by Hunkfield for testing.
 
But she never took the cure in the good ending though?

No, but she's no longer in danger of being murdered by Eveline for trying to leave the farm, neither is she being mentally harassed by Eveline. I'm not saying she'll live without specialized treatment, I'm just saying she's still alive, and free, by the time the good ending rolls around.

She's in that weird dream sequence with Jack. There's really no reason to think she's dead at the end, she probably got scooped up by Hunkfield for testing.

As of right now, my standing hypothesis on that is that Ethan was, for the first time, deeply connected to Eveline. His consciousness was becoming an integral part of the hivemind.

Even though Jack's body was dead, the moment he was fully taken by Eveline her own mind held a copy of his. And Ethan was talking to that. Zoe, Mia, Marguerite, Lucas... They were all there too. Just not there for the scene.

What led me to this train of thought was the passage in the R&D file that mentions the mind becomes "in tune" with Eveline's during later stages of the infection. That's the only explanation I currently have for being able to talk to Jack after he's dead. But I'll be the first to say I'm grasping here. Just couldn't think of anything else yet.

But I'm open for other interpretations.
 
So,is chris a double agent or what the fuck is going on here?
I hope Zoey is still alive,i wonder what happens when you're infected but the hive mind(Evelyn) is dead.
This new virus is kinda confusing tbh.
 
She's in that weird dream sequence with Jack. There's really no reason to think she's dead at the end, she probably got scooped up by Hunkfield for testing.

She's in the dream sequence in both endings. I originally saved her over Mia. Because Zoey is fine.
 
Capcom laziness/forgetfulness is a thing when it comes to any RE story. So I'm sure this has some stuff that'll be retconned or was a mistake. As was said Zoe being in the "dream" even when dead for example
 
I thought you had to be dead to be in the dream?
Then where was margarette?

As was said awhile back. Both Zoe and Jack were "alive" technically. Jack was cocooned and didn't break into chunks, and Zoe was still infected and under Eveline control.

Only lucas is alive and not infected and he's not there
 
Then where was margarette?

As was said awhile back. Both Zoe and Jack were "alive" technically. Jack was cocooned and didn't break into chunks, and Zoe was still infected and under Eveline control.

Only lucas is alive and not infected and he's not there
Doesn't getting cocooned calcify all of your cells? That's like as dead as you can get, calcification is a hallmark of cell death.

I'm not saying you're wrong I'm saying it's probably not well thought out.
 
Doesn't getting cocooned calcify all of your cells? That's like as dead as you can get, calcification is a hallmark of cell death.

I'm not saying you're wrong I'm saying it's probably not well thought out.

It probably isn't. Only thing we have to go off of is that jack didn't break into a thosand pieces like eveline and margarette.
 
No, but she's no longer in danger of being murdered by Eveline for trying to leave the farm, neither is she being mentally harassed by Eveline. I'm not saying she'll live without specialized treatment, I'm just saying she's still alive, and free, by the time the good ending rolls around.



As of right now, my standing hypothesis on that is that Ethan was, for the first time, deeply connected to Eveline. His consciousness was becoming an integral part of the hivemind.

Even though Jack's body was dead, the moment he was fully taken by Eveline her own mind held a copy of his. And Ethan was talking to that. Zoe, Mia, Marguerite, Lucas... They were all there too. Just not there for the scene.

What led me to this train of thought was the passage in the R&D file that mentions the mind becomes "in tune" with Eveline's during later stages of the infection. That's the only explanation I currently have for being able to talk to Jack after he's dead. But I'll be the first to say I'm grasping here. Just couldn't think of anything else yet.

But I'm open for other interpretations.

Given how everything is described about her powers and the infection it's not surprising that they would become part of her consciousness. She's kind of like legion in a way but she is the one overriding voice.
 
The end parts were not as bad as I thought, it was alright, didn't hurt the experience I had with the game. 7.5h IGT.

Ethan is kinda awesome. So why is this thread so big ? What is the main point of discussion?
 
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