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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread
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This would have been Awesome!
Astral Dog
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They are one offs,typical RE one offs
they might bring her back in a Mercenaries or if the popularity grows enough and has something to do but its unlikely.The same for Angela,Manuelita,Billy (wich stands out because he is the only guy and was the first,Steve died)Ashley,and that woman from RE6 that goes with Leon.
They are important in their respective games but are not villains or really part of the main cast.
It isn't really supernatural, it's just badly explained in game.
Eveline has some control over a mold that acts like RE4's Las Plagas, in that it allows control over people. That same mold regenerates and strengthens the cells of the infected. It grows on the brain, causing hallucinations.
It isn't that far away from what the series has dabbled in before. It just comes out of nowhere.
mugurumakensei
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Yea. Major difference is the plagas was a parasite with its own hierarchy. So, the roles fulfilled traditional work type roles.
Eveline(well the E-Series) is a fungus cultured in a genetically modified girl. Her control manifested in a desire for family. So, the hierarchy there is basically the family unit Eveline desires.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Because it could of been a different game and been better for it, the explanation for it is terrible and is so vague and last minute and still don't make sense.
The game does start with something unrelated to Resident Evil, you can see the inspiration it borrows from multiple horror films and games and its good and it does this complete u-turn to try and show you it's Resident Evil. "Look a lab" look a bio-experiments" " look Chris but not Chris"
They probably changed it because of the reasons you think it is Resident Evil, "oh this can be Resident Evil, it similar"
Eveline was Supernatural, they should have kept it that way. it feels like it should have been different
Or we could just say that even in the Resident Evil world, it's story is shit.
That explains the mold, what about her the last bit was straight up supernatural shit.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
EMD is some next level bullshit. I can at least identify which crates have bombs but it won't matter if RNGesus isn't on your side.
If you don't get a weapon by the time you reach the basement you are fucked.
If you don't get a weapon by the time you reach the basement you are fucked.
Jawmuncher
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I enjoyed the game though, I would still rank it pretty low as an RE game personally. Especially for what you mentioned. After the final fight with jack it just all falls apart for me, mainly story wise. While I do think this was always an RE game. The way it's structured does feel like they really wanted to get away from the standards of the series in terms of story and tone. Then much like you said just kinda shoe-horn in some last minute explanations to call it a day.
This isn't even about it's genre. RE6 to me feels like it could happen in the world all 5 games set. RE7 is the first game where I was left with "does this completely fit?". For the most part it does, but there's definitely some odd story decisions I disagree with for the universe as a whole. Revelations 2 had the same issues for me as well.
That doesn't make these bad games, or negates other people's opinions on why they think they fit. But they do stick out for me.
What makes a Resident Evil game a Resident Evil game then? You can really boil everything down and make each of the RE games sound stupid if you wanted to. None of them had oscar worthy stories by any stretch of the imagination.
Is the fact that you had a handful of short hallucinations after the half way point really sour you? At least these events were properly explained via in game documents that you find in a lab (like how most things are explained in RE games lol).
The notes explain it as hallucinations caused by the onset of the infection. So that last bit up until injecting Eveline was happening, at least in part, in Ethan's mind. Then when he injects her the control she had over him dissipates and he sees her for who she really is.
It's a stretching of what the viruses in Resident Evil are capable of but it doesn't break any rules the games have established. Las Plagas enabled mind control, and Wesker mind controls Jill in RE5, for instance.
I wasn't a fan of the explanation either but it is explained.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
RE7 was 100% RE7 since the beginning, it was never planned to be anything else.
People need to also remember that while RE7 is decently stand-alone, it could easily integrate itself in combining elements in future entries.
The RE series taking a departure from the usual is, funnily enough, not that unusual. And then connecting those points to be part of the whole.
People need to also remember that while RE7 is decently stand-alone, it could easily integrate itself in combining elements in future entries.
The RE series taking a departure from the usual is, funnily enough, not that unusual. And then connecting those points to be part of the whole.
So you're saying the game could get boss ooba-robo'd into canon
matrixman92
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it like just now clicked to me days after finishing it that Clancy is the burned guy that you get the code off of lol. Im really bad at picking up on stuff like that. Its cool that they had those guys in the main game
WrenchNinja
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Who's the guy that escapes in the updated Beginning Hour demo then?
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Well I mean, the next title is literally a remake of RE2, and something the first REmake did was retroactively add elements of future entries into RE1. IE, mentions of William Birkin, G-Virus, further presence of Raccoon City, the control 'sweeping' Hunters from Code Veronica, etc.
But also RE4 wasn't very connected to much at the end of RE4 outside of character connections. Las Plagas had nothing to do with anything until that point though. It was retroactively made more important with RE5. The link RE4 had was Wesker, who was behind the scenes collecting stuff since Code Veronica. This game does something different in that it leads threads open, IE
like Lucas.
mugurumakensei
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Clancy. Happy Birthday is the conclusion of his fate.
I don't know in a world with matrix powers teleporting mind control Evelines explanation sat well with me. Hell, her use as a bioweapon makes way more sense than half the BOW's you fight in other games.
The game felt like Resident Evil from the moment you wake up at the dinner table. Colourful cast of campy characters, flight or fight combat, light puzzles and exploration. Loads of backtracking and some plot mystery elements like the original game had. Didn't feel like another game with RE bolted on at all. Plus with what we know of RE7's development it's not like they slapped this together over the last year or something.
The game felt like Resident Evil from the moment you wake up at the dinner table. Colourful cast of campy characters, flight or fight combat, light puzzles and exploration. Loads of backtracking and some plot mystery elements like the original game had. Didn't feel like another game with RE bolted on at all. Plus with what we know of RE7's development it's not like they slapped this together over the last year or something.
That demo is non-canonical. The nothing in it is truly apart of RE7's storyline. That also means the Kitchen demo with Clancy being stabbed through the chest by Mia is non canonical as well.
This just doesn't make sense. The basement was changed from the final game and the guy in the demo escapes and goes to the police. There's also the issue that the Kitchen demo has Clancy die by being stabbed through the back and chest by Mia.
WrenchNinja
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But doesn't he go to the cops and they think he's crazy?
The good ending of the demo is not canon.
EDIT: nvm, SargerusBR's post below makes sense.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Also one last thing to mention is that the canon manga series, Heavenly Island, tied RE7 relatively okay to the rest of the series even before RE7 came out. If anyone wants the full run-down of that I can do a quick write-up to explain.
In basic, it takes place after RE6 in 2014 and stars Claire Redfield (and some others), and both the Umbrella Corporation and the Molded play a role.
In basic, it takes place after RE6 in 2014 and stars Claire Redfield (and some others), and both the Umbrella Corporation and the Molded play a role.
Nobody knows who it was In the Demo. It uses Ethan's character model though. The entire thing is probably non canon.
Oh wow. Is there somewhere I can get a full plot summary?
Oh wow. Is there somewhere I can get a full plot summary?
mugurumakensei
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No. It's known that the main character in beginning hour is Clancy.
Neither of the endings are cannon. The demo is not related to the final game.
Source?
matrixman92
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i started to read that but found it extremely boring and lame lol. Maybe it gets better.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
That's a seperate guy who's some unknown dude. Clancy's tale is told in the following (in order):
-Derelict House Tape (Beginning Hour/RE7 Prologue)
-Kitchen VR
-Nightmare (Banned Footage DLC 1)
-Bedroom (Banned Footage DLC 1)
-21 (Banned Footage DLC 2)
-Happy Birthday (RE7 Tape)
-RE7
Testing Area (see the fate of Clancy's corpse)
It is not Clancy. Like I said the character model is Ethan's. You can see that Clancy's is different in both tapes.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
It gets a lot better than it's opening chapters, but I wouldn't say it's like, a must experience. Just know that Parker from Resident Evil Revelations plays a role later, and it goes some into detail what seems to be an early stage of the virus (we see someone inject themselves into something that's very clearly a Molded, and it turns into
something that looks very similar to the final form of Jack, has the whole backwards huge body thing going on.
Though it likely isn't the final strain, but one of the failed earlier strains, IE the failure A-D series.
Though it likely isn't the final strain, but one of the failed earlier strains, IE the failure A-D series.
Clancy is the one on the tape who gets captured. He wouldn't need to watch the VHS to know about the secret door in the fireplace.
SargerusBR
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Quoting myself and Dusk when we had the Clancy debate some pages ago
The escape ending from BH is named TRUE ENDING. The character in BH uses Ethan's model. That's why we knew how he looked like when the demo released on PC.
And here's Clancy:
Beginning Hour tape:
Birthday tape:
The timeline goes like this:
Sewer Gators crew enter the house
Andre is killed, most likely by Jack
Peter and Clancy are captured and put on the Kitchen
Mia kills Peter and attacks Clancy but doesn't kill him
Lucas grabs the captured Clancy and forces him to do the birthday puzzle
Clancy is dead. The character from BH was probably one of the many victims the Bakers captured
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Fair enough, I'll just put it down to that
And guys, I said it's good the game just seems like it would have been better as something else due to the poorly done ties to Resident Evil.
Already Torn
Banned
Claire Redfield?!
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Basic rundown of the main events of Resident Evil: Heavenly Island Manga (which was made by the same people who made the RE6 prologue manga, which was also canon and introduced Piers).
HEAVENLY ISLAND SUMMARY:
-The manga takes place in 2014, after RE6 and before RE7.
-There is a 'survival island' tv show being films on an island off the coast of South America starring swimsuit idols. A few of the idols and one of the cameramen are part of the main cast of the manga (and in my honest opinion, by far the worst part of the manga).
-Claire Redfield is also on the island investigating reports of strange fish B.O.W. for TerraSave. There is some strange virus that seeped into the water and mutated some of the fish, the people have been 'dealing' with infected people either attacked or consumed infected fish by killing them and burning the bodies. Claire calls into TerraSave for some back-up upon confirming that there is some type of BOW activity here.
-The people hosting the survival island show get attacked by some HUGE Tyrant-like BOW that wears a mask and wields a giant anchor. He kills and turns people into zombies, and picks up the zombies and takes them away, but for what reason is unknown at first. We later find out that this monster still has some of his humanity left (and we learn who he is later) and is trying to form a family in an underground cave to make a village and build a family of zombies up (but these are dumb zombies, not intelligent ones).
-Claire Redfield finds out this island was once an Umbrella testing ground that Ozwell Spencer bought in the 1960s. It's also where Alex Wesker was working for Spencer in RE5: Lost in Nightmares, before she ran away with the research. It was the island she was using to test and try to find a 'immortality virus' for Spencer.
-Part of Alex's test was trying different strains of the virus in hopes to make something that made people immortal while also retaining their humanity, and trying to seek out a perfect BOW by using the failures to 'combat' each other, using a sort of 'mixing pot' arena system inspired by the Chinese pot fights where they'd put predators together to fight and only the strongest gets to survive. The plan was to eliminate 'failures' until only one was left, and the strongest B.O.W. they'd take the strain of virus that had mutated inside of them to create a new BOW line.
-While this is happening, we find out that the survivor island show happening here was no coincidence, some crazy guy who lost his family to Umbrella after being an employee chose this island to unleash the old experiments on the island to televise the dangers of BOW to idols, because people place great importance on actors and TV idols, but gets killed in the process from a Witch Doctor who seems to know a lot which we learn more about later.
-Skipping a lot, but Claire contacts Chris, who's busy on some mission in the Middle East (related to the RE6 epilogue?), but knows a guy in the BSAA South American branch who may be able to help. Parker from Resident Evil Revelations comes to help aid Claire in exterminating BOWs on the island.
-Meanwhile the Witch Doctor unleashes a second giant BOW that was being nursed in ab abandoned ruin to take care of the pest and prove it's the BOW top running to be the ultimate from their arena test. Wipes out the BSAA agents outside of Parker, and begins to fight the other BOW with the giant anchor/mask.
-The BOW with the giant anchor/mask, meanwhile, had its 'zombie family' torn apart after the idol cameramen and an idol burn the village it made for them down while trying to survive the zombies, and the anchor BOW begins to actually cry and swears to get revenge on the two that killed its family.
-Skipping a lot again, they go underground and find the entrance to the hidden Umbrella facility under the island, there are three idols, the camera man, Claire, and a back-up TerraSave member left at this point (Parker goes to sacrifice himself to distract the BOWs so the rest of them can get away), they find a lot of signs of Umbrella's past and Alex Wesker's work on her time here on the island.
-They meet the Witch Doctor again, who reveals himself to have been a member of Umbrella who stayed after the companies demise and was Alex Wesker's right-hand man on the island. He stayed behind when she left to continue the research into the ultimate BOW, which he was too invested in to leave for the sake of immortality research. He felt entrusted by Alex to continue this research, and was on the brink of devising 'the ultimate BOW'.
-One of the members of the group that survives (one of the idols) is a double agent for a group known as Sheng-Ya, which is the primary corporation featured in Umbrella Corps. She contacts Sheng-Ya revealing the BOW research and virus strain being conducted here, and contacts Sheng-Ya to retrieve the sample. They confirm and send in Umbrella Corps agents to steal the sample. The double agent assassinates the right-hand Umbrella guy to take the research, but on her escape out she gets bitten by another idol who had turned zombie and is forced to use one of the vials on herself.
-The other Umbrella Corps agents from Sheng-Ya abandon her after retrieving the samples, and the woman who injected herself turns into a Molded and the Mold begins to grow across the walls that she retreats into. She comes out and mutates further into a giant being with reptilian features who's bent backwards (like Jack's final form) but with less eyes and more tentacles.
(when I read it, the last few chapters weren't translated yet, so I don't 100% know the conclusion but there were rocket launchers and fighting with the giant mutated double agent woman).
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That's about the story of it, the original strain for the Eveline project seems to have been taken from a BOW research center and was taken from a BOW who had traces of his humanity left and a strange focus on family, when the woman injects herself she basically turns into a Molded, the virus was stolen and taken from Sheng-Ya, who is likely the corporation that Mia is working for who was featured also in Umbrella Corps. It also fits since Sheng-Ya is shown in the manga to primarily use ships to transport themselves.
No, that'd be Chris' dead team.
"I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless C-virus. I will always be with you. Plant your gains on me. I won't see you end as ashes. You're all boulders."
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Nah, he just got bitch slapped hard. Manga still hasn't ended so we don't know for sure.
I guess him miraculously avoiding death a second time would be bullshit even for RE standards.
Now I'm torn.
Jawmuncher
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The manga outside the idol stuff has a way cooler story than RE7. Anchor guy sounds cool as fuck
Itchy//Tasty
Member
Anyone know when chronologically the conversation between 'normal' Jack, Zoe and Ethan happens in the flashback? Couldn't figure out where that was supposed to happen, or was it an Evelyn hallucination?
Hivemind hallucination.
Jawmuncher
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They were talking through some hivemind shit while ethan was in the mold. Since they're all infected in some form by her at that point.