LunaticHigh
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Sony has had dedicated servers for the majority of their first party games on the PS3. Infact, I think almost all of them did? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Respawn Entertainment gives more detail about the Cloud and Titanfall
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Sony has had dedicated servers for the majority of their first party games on the PS3. Infact, I think almost all of them did? Correct me if I'm wrong.
By the way, am I being too much of a dick by saying "Told you so"? 
That was pretty good, take notes Microsoft. I just hope that these servers are used intelligently and games don't have tacked on features using them when player-hosted solutions could work just as well. I don't want to feel like I need to pay for server upkeep when cheaper alternatives exist.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
300000 servers have seen Titanfall.
I'm wondering this is as well. Since in the Giant Bomb they where like you can't have this virtual server thing. However this piece clearly lists PC and xbox 360 along side the X1 as powered by the XBL cloud.
Finally some details, embarrassing that a third party developer must explain all this stuff.
For fuck's sake, finally. Now please someone tell that to Microsoft.
"Infinte power of the cloud" now also on Pc and 360.
Confirmation that it is not free, not that there was ever any question about that.
For fuck's sake, finally. Now please someone tell that to Microsoft.
"Infinte power of the cloud" now also on Pc and 360.
Confirmation that it is not free, not that there was ever any question about that.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
They could have but then we would all be thinking this is strictly dedicated servers which it is not. The "cloud" is just a buzzword for how they're using their computing service. It'll be interesting to see how companies utilize the service over the next few years though.
It is actually really exciting.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Sure, pretty technical to anyone who hasn't played PC bideo james in the past 15 or so years at all.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
The bigger news from this would be if PC players would have to pay for access to the cloud.
Much better explanation than MS PR could ever give us.
I knew this was what they were doing all along, and the Giantbomb interview on their E3 podcast helped clarify, but this is a great write-up that helps explain a lot of the bullshit.
Still skeptical on how it will all work, whether there will or won't be local dedicated servers for PC. For Private Matches will you still get Dedicated Servers, or will you have to use player hosts in modes outside of their Matchmaking.
I knew this was what they were doing all along, and the Giantbomb interview on their E3 podcast helped clarify, but this is a great write-up that helps explain a lot of the bullshit.
Still skeptical on how it will all work, whether there will or won't be local dedicated servers for PC. For Private Matches will you still get Dedicated Servers, or will you have to use player hosts in modes outside of their Matchmaking.
phosphor112
Banned
This. If they are locking those servers just for 360/X1, then that's some shit.
Anyway, this just confirms it's dedicated servers and nothing more. The only difference is that MS has so many of them around the globe they don't have to build any new ones in anticipation for a game launch.
What "task" are those that can't be run in any other dedicated server but Microsoft's? Funny he tries to explain how awesome the cloud is going to be but he didn't say anything really that a dedicated server can't do.
If he going to put a pr piece about the cloud, then tell me those awesome tasks you're going to use that only will be available to XBONE thanks to the cloud.
Good for them for setting it all straight. They already mentioned some of this in GB's After Dark show but it's good to see it all written out. They seemed to be most psyched about the ability to scale their server requirements quickly and easily.
Respawn Entertainment should do Microsoft's PR.
Respawn Entertainment should do Microsoft's PR.
Metalmurphy
Member
I wasn't talking about Respawn specifically, I'm talking now going forward we're gonna see even less and less dedicated server support for PC ports. As in other options besides ponying up for Microsoft. Because technically, it brings nothing new that we didn't already have, they just want everything to go through them now.
And wait until they turn it into a Win8 exclusive feature, for no reason what so ever.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
All this cloud and dedicated server talk is even more meaningless then it already is if there are network issues launch week.
Why cloudless? Nothing is stopping developers from using Azure (or Amazon, Rackspace, or whatever) for PS4 games.
Well, in the explanation the guy mentions that the Xbox Live Cloud will work across the PC, 360, and Xbone:
Jon Shiring said:
Sounds like dedicated servers for everyone (playing on Windows Live that is).
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Sony launches a campaign promoting their dedicated server system called "Reign".
Why would the PC version work any differently from how dedicated servers in any other game works?
NullPointer
Member
They *are* dedicated servers. It's how those servers are organized, accessed and managed and how those servers can work together that makes the difference. What they're doing that makes them special is how much server capacity is available to be used (the existing Azure platform), and how easy it is to scale processing and servers as needed, automatically, to a fine-grained level of detail.
These are still computers doing work, yes.
According to Respawn the PC version won't have the "niceties" of the Xbone version. They haven't explained just what in the world that means though.
Maybe that's why the Microsoft pre-order numbers are so low. Trickle in users over the course of the first month to let the servers fully handle the load without crashing?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
In some cases yes.
I hope to hell and back that Respawn is smart enough to put a Steam version ala KoA.
What's this network launch issue baloney I am hearing from you?
MS is good on flip flops lately so I'm calling it...
Titanfall Windows 8 exclusive, XB1 gamepad required and Xbox Live Gold subscription required.
PetriP-TNT
Member
I have said this from day 1, there's 0 chance MS is offering limitless server space for free. Cheap-ish? Maybe. Free? No way.
dragonelite
Member
A lot of them only used them for match making i was told in other cloud threads.
Get caught not reading OP. Look before you leap. The whole article is meant to debunk these blind replies and the poor communication of it all.
Servers have existed before, yes they are not something they invented just for X1. But subsidized dedicated servers from the platform holder available to all developers on any given platform is nothing short of impressive and exciting, and probably something that hasn't been done before.
Not every game is an MMO, and just because a game has integrated online features doesn't make it one either. Extending this to all developers on a platform is huge.
People keep insisting that Sony can simply mimic what Microsoft has done, but the ligistics behind it are far too expansive (and expensive) to simply just "do it." There are very few companies who can offer this level of service, and due to Microsoft building up their Azure service over the years, they're one of the few who can. This isn't something that Microsoft decided to do on a whim, it was an end game they worked towards that was only possible because they already had the groundwork on which to build it on.
DeadRockstar
Member
So literally dedicated servers then, which is exactly what it sounded like.
Hope they have something in the works for PC though, because that's the version I'm getting regardless.
Hope they have something in the works for PC though, because that's the version I'm getting regardless.
Yep that's the biggest takeaway, from what we didn't know. Still sounds pretty interesting, I'm kinda interested if pubs will jump on this.
Exactly.
Still trying to figure out if having a Content Delivery Server for Azure locally would mitigate some latency with shit like this. but doubt it. Really REALLY hope they offer some private dedicated option.
Game this good shouldn't be restrained by BS.
LukasTaves
Member
So, all developers has access, the servers can be used for cross platform games. it's not free, but it cost less for Xbox one developers than it would for a ordinary company to rent their servers.
Metalmurphy
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66002776&postcount=69
Read the thread and think before you backseat mod.
*edit* And stealth edit.
Being able to scale them around as demand shrinks/grows, as well as have them update the servers first and players auto get the updates and content will be great.
NullPointer
Member
It has a better chance of being "close" to you in latency terms than any other publisher specific dedicated server environment. Azure is huge, and continually growing all across the world to account for exactly those issues.
phosphor112
Banned
Missed that then.
Interfectum
Member
So MS isn't giving cloud computing to devs for free. Is this the first confirmation of that?
Thought you'd need a bit more context or encouragement to read OP.
Yep, next gen is going to get real interesting.
"Sony Dev? x5 the Price yo!"
I am guessing most devs that go exclusive are getting it way cheaper.