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Respawn Entertainment gives more detail about the Cloud and Titanfall
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PrivateWHudson
Member
So they are charging developers for cloud space. Looks like they get a lot of bang for the buck, but I've seen many people taking it up as a free service to the developers.
Fried Food
Banned
I don't see why we, the gamers, would be against technology that can make the games we play better.
It's dedicated servers operated by Microsoft, I have no clue how anyone can read it to be anything but that.
The updating part of it all is something I'm excited for. Being able to push updates to the server without requiring a title update will be amazing. Also, adding content on the fly.
Metalmurphy
Member
I believe EA uses their own servers for their games, even on 360 iirc.
I understand now, sort of a super efficient way to run, manage and organize dedicated servers, what I get from his piece is that he is relieved that he doesn't have to deal with all the dedicated server related stuff.
D'ultimate
Member
Can we forgive a company (MS) for being overly enthusiastic about their product or what they feel they are bringing to the table please? I mean...see every company reveal EVER!!
Yes, MS used hyperbole to describe what is essentially dedicated servers. But, I feel some of us are being extremely shortsighted in our vision if what the future holds or is capable of. What this article is saying to me is that there is a lot of POTENTIAL, things that you and I are not seeing at the moment, that can be had from hundreds of thousands of computational servers. The POWAH of the cloud if you will.
Take a chill guys and try to get a little excited at the potential growth of your favorite hobby instead of trying to take a piss on everything good that is not from your favorite console provider.
Yes, MS used hyperbole to describe what is essentially dedicated servers. But, I feel some of us are being extremely shortsighted in our vision if what the future holds or is capable of. What this article is saying to me is that there is a lot of POTENTIAL, things that you and I are not seeing at the moment, that can be had from hundreds of thousands of computational servers. The POWAH of the cloud if you will.
Take a chill guys and try to get a little excited at the potential growth of your favorite hobby instead of trying to take a piss on everything good that is not from your favorite console provider.
Origin
Because not all of us, the gamers, would benefit from this. In fact some of us will actually have a negative impact if this is used to replace PC player hosted/ private dedicated servers.
Nowhere said subsidized server for everyone. Respawn got a good deal doesn't mean everyone else can.
Well, I guess that depends on the devs giving the client/Server stuff for players, or just getting you to buy it from MS.
Metalmurphy
Member
You either won't be getting them (most likely outcome), or you'll be paying Microsoft now.
TheLegendary
Member
Devs said that they will have to figure it out on their own and that not all the features would translate over, but the article makes it sound like they'd support other platforms too.
Felix Lighter
Member
Attack the misleading and inappropriate PR marketing bullshit about the cloud but I can't see attacking these services as anything negative from Microsoft. It's truly good for the platform, even if it just makes dedicated servers more prevalent.
Also, I think it takes some random leaps to suggest this service on Xbox One will negatively impact the dedicated server situation on PC. Dev's who do PC support right will continue to do it right, those that half ass PC support will continue half assing PC support.
Also, I think it takes some random leaps to suggest this service on Xbox One will negatively impact the dedicated server situation on PC. Dev's who do PC support right will continue to do it right, those that half ass PC support will continue half assing PC support.
Origin + Windows 8 + GFWL, sent to die
GameSeeker
Member
Sony is already ahead of the game.
Titanfall is an online only multi-player FPS. It uses dedicated servers.
Planetside 2 is an online only multi-player FPS. It uses dedicated servers.
Titanfall is on Xbone & PC (and probably later PS4).
Plantside 2 is on PS4 & PC (and won't be on Xbone).
Titanfall requires you to pay for Xbox Gold.
Planetside 2 is F2P and doesn't require PSN+.
Again, Sony is ahead of the game. MMO's on PSN will have dedicated servers. No advantage to Xbox here.
qa_engineer
Member
Because "Cloud" is a marketing buzzword which the common consumer will associate with a forward looking, futuristic device. Dedicated server doesn't sound sexy at all, but all this really is are dedicated servers.
Noooo...it clearly states that the PC and 360 versions will be getting dedicated servers:
Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360.
I don't like this response. What cost is there to Respawn for user hosted dedicated servers? Oh yeah, it is tougher to shove DLC down our throat then.
MisterC20XX
Member
OK, so it sounds like it's a real a thing. I stand corrected. Kudos to Respawn for explaining it.
This is now my big question. Is it available to all developers? If so will Xbox One multiplatform titles have an advantage?
This is now my big question. Is it available to all developers? If so will Xbox One multiplatform titles have an advantage?
Jon of the Wired
Member
This certainly does provide some clarity around the cloud marketing. It turns out to be pretty much what I (and many others) expected, discount access to Azure services, or essentially just moneyhatting. More dedicated servers are always nice, but I wonder what the agreement looks like that the pubs have to sign to get the discount, and I wonder for how long Microsoft has promised to provide the services at the discounted price.
NullPointer
Member
Exactly. MS is making it extremely easy and cost-effective for developers to add automatically scaling dedicated server support for all kinds of gaming related tasks.
I honestly don't know enough about how Sony handles servers to know how close they are to being able to provide the same level of service. Anybody have an idea? Is this something Sony could easily roll out to match the scale of Azure? Do they already have a similarly scaled and distributed cloud environment they can leverage?
It's like people forgot MW2 PC didn't have dedi's.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Sarcasm? Nearly every game launches with issues and if people have issues with lag or connecting to a game this cloud/dedicated server talk is meaningless to people. Especially when an entire game's focus is MP, so it is literally unplayable if there are network issues on launch.
Paging Sim City.
That's what it sounds like, but again, Microsoft's PR being terrible, so it's unclear. I'd like to think so, it's the only reason why pimping the "Cloud" makes any sense at all. If it's something added that people can opt into, it's no different than what Sony or EA are doing right now.
Discotheque
Banned
GFWL for my most anticipated online MP game on PC next year?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is some seriously disappointing news. I'd prefer Origin any day over that shit.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is some seriously disappointing news. I'd prefer Origin any day over that shit.
Metalmurphy
Member
Ugh... read what I quoted again.
He was talking about the option of buying/setting up our own dedicated servers.
Because people will finally stop posting "The Cloud is bullshit!!" and making themselves look like idiots.
Azure (and other providers) are available to everyone with a credit card.
http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/pricing/calculator/
However, it is not unlikely that Microsoft will subsidize resources for some or all developers of Xbox games.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
It only seems logical that Sony will be declaring soon that they have clouds for developers, too.
velociraptor
Junior Member
So after reading that article, the only thing I garnered was that cloud is simply a buzzword for dedicated servers.
Gee, what wasn't so hard now, was it Microsoft?
Now that's fantastic for online games and I'm happy their usage is being taken more seriously this generation for us console gamers.
But anyone who is expecting the 'cloud' to actively improve a game visually is merely deluding themselves.
Gee, what wasn't so hard now, was it Microsoft?
Now that's fantastic for online games and I'm happy their usage is being taken more seriously this generation for us console gamers.
But anyone who is expecting the 'cloud' to actively improve a game visually is merely deluding themselves.
dragonelite
Member
Nothing will change i think.
They will offer like 100 servers in each region the rest will be rented by the community.
Absolutely, I really hate the way a lot of companies are so reluctant to let their fans on PC host their own servers and give them tools to do so. Don't get me wrong, for consoles I think this is a wonderful step and a big leap forward if companies use it and they should, but I'm not a fan of restricting options to their PC fanbase. These are the same guys who made COD4 for fuck sake, a game I can still play now with many full servers on PC due to letting people host their own servers.
GFWL is pretty much dead, even MS isn't touching that stuff anymore.
Insult to injury would be that BF3, EA, offered great support for dedicated servers for PC. Even with all the DLC packs and shit inbetween.
Interfectum
Member
It's available to all devs at a cost.
No, a dev can get a dedicated server from a variety of sources.
Um, I'm going to treat the whole "Titanfall is a Windows 8 exclusive" stuff as anti-MS FUD from now on, until something's confirmed either way. Thanks.
GFWL still sucked copious amounts of ass, however. Feel free to continue bashing that as long as you like.
I don't think that Sony should build their own cloud infrastructure. That would only make sense if they would enter the business of providing cloud infrastructures to the general public.
Most likley, Sony will enter contracts with other cloud/data center providers around the world.
MS out marketed themselves. They should have just said dedicated servers for games and people would have been more excited than this cloud garbage. Although it doesn't necessarily sound like it's free for all developers to use so we may not see this support for every game.