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Reuters: Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-election-exclusive-idUSKBN17L2N3

A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine voters’ faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

They described two confidential documents from the think tank as providing the framework and rationale for what U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded was an intensive effort by Russia to interfere with the Nov. 8 election. U.S. intelligence officials acquired the documents, which were prepared by the Moscow-based Russian Institute for Strategic Studies [en.riss.ru/], after the election.

The institute is run by retired senior Russian foreign intelligence officials appointed by Putin’s office.

The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.

It recommended the Kremlin launch a propaganda campaign on social media and Russian state-backed global news outlets to encourage U.S. voters to elect a president who would take a softer line toward Russia than the administration of then-President Barack Obama, the seven officials said.

A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.

The current and former U.S. officials spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the Russian documents’ classified status. They declined to discuss how the United States obtained them. U.S. intelligence agencies also declined to comment on them.

Putin has denied interfering in the U.S. election. Putin’s spokesman and the Russian institute did not respond to requests for comment.

The documents were central to the Obama administration's conclusion that Russia mounted a “fake news” campaign and launched cyber attacks against Democratic Party groups and Clinton's campaign, the current and former officials said.

Oh.
 

Lunar15

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A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.

Wouldn't this ultimately mean that not even the Russians saw trump winning and actually lessens the ties between Team Trump and Russia? What was their pro-trump propaganda? The fake articles pushed on facebook and twitter?

I dunno, all this Russia is so nuts. Sometimes I treat it extremely seriously and other times I kinda feel like there's too much conspiracy around it.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
I dunno, all this Russia is so nuts. Sometimes I treat it extremely seriously and other times I kinda feel like there's too much conspiracy around it.

Um. It happened. There's literally zero doubt. This is one of the components. This arm didn't think Trump was going to win, and neither did the other branches. They were trying to disrupt and harm Hillary.
 

Al-ibn Kermit

Junior Member
Wouldn't this ultimately mean that not even the Russians saw trump winning and actually lessens the ties between Team Trump and Russia? What was their pro-trump propaganda? The fake articles pushed on facebook and twitter?

I dunno, all this Russia is so nuts. Sometimes I treat it extremely seriously and other times I kinda feel like there's too much conspiracy around it.

I think even the Steele dossier mentioned that Russia did not expect Trump to win. The goal was always to tarnish Hillary and the American electoral process so that Americans will be skeptical of any criticism directed at Russia.
 

FZZ

Banned
Putin is a bitch ass 5 foot 5 cunt that can't even ball

muggsy bogues would dunk on him no lie
 

Lunar15

Member
Um. It happened. There's literally zero doubt. This is one of the components. This arm didn't think Trump was going to win, and neither did the other branches. They were trying to disrupt and harm Hillary.

I don't doubt that russia drafted up plans. Not a denier on that. Not even a denier that russia made in-roads to the trump campaign. All of which I think are outrageously serious charges that, unfortunately, will have no repercussions.

However, what I wonder about is how effective it all actually was, and to what extent it went. Some media acts as if trump was on the phone with putin throughout the whole thing, which, while possible, doesn't seem likely. It's the mixture of the outrageous claims and the sensible claims that I think makes people not take this as seriously as they should. And maybe that's the plan?
 
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