ElBoxyBrown
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Isn't Nintendo heavily involved?
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Reuters: Vivendi takeover of Ubisoft to take place this year
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Isn't Nintendo heavily involved?
Judging by the state of Canal+, I wouldn't get my hopes up
Now that is something i'd hate to see. Ubi hasn't exactly had a good hand with their strategy franchises.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Exactly what? We got a healthy dose of small games from Ubi for the past couple of years. I forgot about Valiant Hearts.
Milly Osworth
Member
What does Vivendi want exactly?
Radical Edward
Member
How is this different ?Microtransactions everywhere, games as service, dropping single player content
Oh you mean Yves going on about creativity and independence? Yeah, I laughed at that.
You run UBISOFT, the last 5 years have proved exactly what kind of company you are.
I have zero sympathy.
Gunmonkey36
Member
Microtransactions everywhere, games as service, dropping single player content
So business as usual for ubisoft if you add in terrible drm and awful server uptime?
michaelius
Banned
That's the joke - most likely nothing would change in Ubi.
I really don't care about the future of ubisoft.The only games i bought from ubi is Farcry games and BG&E. So when i wait for so long for a sequel to BG&E only to see this shity company bring it back from the basement just to use it as sacrifice sheep.
Sword Of Doom
Member
It's been a while since they announced anything like that. Grow Home 2 came out but there's been none of the Ubi Art games like Rayman and Child of Light
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
"Good that this takeover is happening! Now I can hate you even more!"
That's all I'm hearing.
That's all I'm hearing.
DomsPlaying
Member
Not necessarily. Companies purchase shares in others all the time, in order to reap benefits of profits via dividends or gains when the other company's share price increases.
Vivendi has something like 230 million euros of unrealized gains from their purchase, last I checked.
Granted, not every company eclipses the 25% ownership of another, but I wouldn't say this is an absolute guarantee of a full bid especially since Vivendi said as much in its disclosure when it crossed that threshold.
But things can change, as we know
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Gone Home aside, these are games released 3+ years ago, and even EA throws out a token creative game like Unravel occasionally.
sixteen-bit
Member
what does this mean for BGE2?
DangerMouse
Member
terencecah
Member
for me this might be a bad thing
i've really loved ubisofts output in the last few years
i've really loved ubisofts output in the last few years
Man, it would be truly terrible to go from a company not interested in developing BG&E2 to a company not interested in developing BG&E2.
I don't know since this hasn't been officially announced yet.
I mean they have creative aspects of their company as have been pointed out by many others. Ubi Art games are filled with commendable ideas (though people who are mentioning Grow Home like some great treasure are overstating its importance.)
But the homogeneous, bland franchise games that they milked dry tell another side of the story. I'd be lying if I said I'd miss Ubisoft but the industry will soldier on, as it always does.
More money.
Peroroncino
Member
Too early to tell. If, by the time of the takeover, the game is in an advanced state of production, it will more than likely be released, if it's still in early state however, they can kill it off without too much of a financial loss if they deem it too risky.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They've been doing a lot more creative games than EA.
FunkyDealer
Banned
Vivendi can piss right off. A hostile takeover won't do any good to anyone.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Well Ubisoft had a (mostly) good run.
I feel bad for my Breton bro Yves.
I feel bad for my Breton bro Yves.
They're not large enough.
They would have to merge with someone on the scale of Take-Two or Square Enix to get their price up enough to make Vivendi uninterested.
VolticArchangel
Member
I wonder if a company like Tencent would be interested in investing here.
This has been the EA strategy for a decade. Maxis is dead, and Bioware might as well be. all of their talent left after the EA acquisition, and it shows. I expect the same thing to happen at Ubi. the good news is they didn't have much talent to begin with. I kinda liked the AC and FC series, but in a "I'll get it when it's $20 or less" way. So will we really notice any changes? What, they'll go from bad to awful?
For all the hate Ubi gets here, they are one of the very few big gaming third parties producing new AAA ip's on a regular basis, built on fresh ideas with a vision. Also, despite certain gameplay elements bleeding over into several of their series, within their major series they also still tend to take some risks as well. Not to mention the smaller games they produce every now and then.
There are many aspects of Ubisoft I don't like, but I honestly think the hate on gaf is overblown given the things they do right.
There are many aspects of Ubisoft I don't like, but I honestly think the hate on gaf is overblown given the things they do right.
Drats.
DomsPlaying
Member
Also, even if Vivendi does execute on a full hostile takeover, why would it want to totally change Ubisoft's business model with all the success it's had lately? I don't really buy that angle.
That would seem counter-intuitive as it's ultimately making an investment to maximize its profits, and I think Ubisoft is on the right path in that it's taking more care in its longer-running franchises plus launching new IP that people are buying.
Just my 2 cents.
That would seem counter-intuitive as it's ultimately making an investment to maximize its profits, and I think Ubisoft is on the right path in that it's taking more care in its longer-running franchises plus launching new IP that people are buying.
Just my 2 cents.
Overblown? I'd say the general Ubisoft hate has actually softened. Just look at any thread about the various Watch_Dogs 1 or Far Cry 3 controversies to see what I mean. Any mean things said about them now are in tame by comparison.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I was thinking maybe Deep Silver would be a good pairing for Ubi, but even then I don't know if they (or their parent company Koch Media) have the money to keep Vivendi at bay. Maybe Tencent would be a good partner, as they don't seem to mess with the companies they acquire.
They didn't release an AC in 2008, although on average there has been more than one release per year.
Exactly what? They all came out in the last few years. You can pretend Grow Home, Valiant Hearts or Child of Light were not interesting and high-quality experimental little games if it makes you feel better, if that's what you're going for, I guess?
I've a fair few issues with Ubi over the years, but they're one of the most consistent publishers and easily one of the best when it comes to investing in unique games and new IPs.
Taliban Stan
Member
True, but Ubisoft did at least notice maybe things were getting to be a bit much and slowed it down. What is Vivendi buying them for? Solely because someone suggested diversification? To help prop up an insane growth model demanded by shareholder?
The fear imo, is that look how Ubisoft is when they only have to answer to themselves. If they all get bosses and now have to answer to them, do you think that will make things better or worse when it comes to annualized franchises that desperately need some time off yet still make bank despite midling reviews or in getting smaller, indie-like games greenlit?
Well you're going from having an actually chance of it to be release to having it be shut down and gone. ¯_(ツ
_/¯michaelius
Banned
The games people use to defend creative Ubisoft are getting old:
Rayman Origins 2011
Rayman Legends 2013
Child of Light 2014
Valiant Hearts 2014
Grow Home 2015
I wonder where are new Rayman games ? What happened to people who made Child of Light or Valiant Hearts ?
They had creative period when they green lighted a lot of more artistic stuff but that seems completely gone in last years.
TeamLeftMatch
Member
Sorry a bit late in the thread but can you explain what you meant? Ubisoft have definitely taken more experimentation and even stopped the yearly Assassin's creed release but it's just the worst case scenario of another company buying ubisoft since I feel like it could go either way.
terencecah
Member
i truly do not understand the amount of hate ubisoft receives here
SinCityAssassin
Member
Regardless if the game turns out to be real or not, Vivendi would not cancel or turn down a project near the end of its development on a contract with one of the biggest names in the industry.
It's been dead, breh.