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rFactor 2 Beta Thread: Which will crash more often; it or us?
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mclaren777
Member
Did you put the file in your rF2 > Packages folder?
Cheers Mclaren, will get it tonight.
Yep. Should reinstall?
mclaren777
Member
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Make sure to use the full build from v85 (or the current v90 if a full build is available).
Don't delete your mod packages because those can just be re-installed (providing they aren't the source of the problem).
mclaren777
Member
Any chance these are German?
Click on the image for more info.
Hnnnngh
Holy crap that looks great. I love the "helmet cam" even though it looks a bit exaggerated with the head almost hitting the wheel and such and that looks a lot less slippery than most of the rF2 content so far which is something that I couldn't get a grip on when I last tested the game. Anyone found a link for it and is there anything major added in the last patches?
Big Takeover
Member
They really nailed the sound, jeez.
Business
Member
Very nice except for the camera, a bit of movement is fine but you wouldn't get your face moved 20cm forward while breaking here.
Same.
My initial reaction was "How ghetto". After a short period, I really warmed up to it. Plus, I'd imagine that perspective would really shine in 3D.
Maybe a bit too much lean to be playable and his head's only inches away from the steering wheel (I'd probably increase the fov a bit too), but aye, that looks really nice. Needs a dynamic or at least animated water drops though; those static ones bother me
Back on topic, what are the major additions in the last few patches?
mclaren777
Member
Brabham BT20, a modern F1-styled car, Renault Clio Cup mod, and a historic version of Monza.
Build 85 Patch Notes
Build 90 Patch Notes
mclaren777
Member
feels3 has finally released a build (v0.91) of Croft for us to enjoy.
Release Notes
- Trees are temporarily 2D, full 3D trees are planned for v1.0
- HDR profile is from ISI, new profile is planned for v1.0
- Temporary night lighting, upgrage is planned for v1.0
- Dirt course layout and animations are planned for v1.0
- Up to 40 drivers on track (24 + 16 garages with 24 pits)
- AI is far from perfect, but upgrade is planned ASAP
- Temporary replay cameras, upgrade is planned for v1.0
- No trackside sounds, but upgrade is planned for v1.0
- Asset and performance improvements are planned for v1.0
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Release Notes
- Trees are temporarily 2D, full 3D trees are planned for v1.0
- HDR profile is from ISI, new profile is planned for v1.0
- Temporary night lighting, upgrage is planned for v1.0
- Dirt course layout and animations are planned for v1.0
- Up to 40 drivers on track (24 + 16 garages with 24 pits)
- AI is far from perfect, but upgrade is planned ASAP
- Temporary replay cameras, upgrade is planned for v1.0
- No trackside sounds, but upgrade is planned for v1.0
- Asset and performance improvements are planned for v1.0
Download
mclaren777
Member
I really wish there was an offline version of iRacing (all content, competent AI, $60) because it's such a fantastic looking game.
Since mclaren isn't around (hopefully back soon) to keep us updated I'll take a swing at it for a change.
Virtua_LM released their Sebring track from original rF to rF2 now, there's some screens and download links here: http://www.virtualr.net/virtua_lm-sebring-for-rfactor-2-released . The Virtua_LM tracks are most definitely up there at the top when it comes to quality in rF(2), their version of Mid Ohio is one of my favorite tracks ever in rFactor.
Virtua_LM released their Sebring track from original rF to rF2 now, there's some screens and download links here: http://www.virtualr.net/virtua_lm-sebring-for-rfactor-2-released . The Virtua_LM tracks are most definitely up there at the top when it comes to quality in rF(2), their version of Mid Ohio is one of my favorite tracks ever in rFactor.
SLIM v3n0m
Member
Any word on when this game is going live? Wasn't it supposed to be this summer some time?
I retract my feelings about rfactor 1 having better 3D.
Picked up a GTX 660ti and can now run Spa at 1080P 3D@60fps. Pretty freaking glorious.
Also spent a little time playing Monaco. That sharp turn coming out of the tunnel is SO much easier in 3D. I always just closed my eyes and said a prayer to the gaming gods when I took that before. In 3D? Pft. I laugh at your little turn.
Picked up a GTX 660ti and can now run Spa at 1080P 3D@60fps. Pretty freaking glorious.
Also spent a little time playing Monaco. That sharp turn coming out of the tunnel is SO much easier in 3D. I always just closed my eyes and said a prayer to the gaming gods when I took that before. In 3D? Pft. I laugh at your little turn.
Type_Raver
Member
Whats the FF like on Logitech wheels with the latest build?
I'm gonna try and spend some quality time with it today. Yesterday was that new video card, must try 15 different games phase.
My quick (and possibly faulty) impression was there were no deal breakers. I do, however, still find it absolutely necessary to use the following settings:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34314028&postcount=132
The death rattle stock settings are an absolute no-go for me.
EDIT: I don't actually have the wheel settings at 900 degrees. I think I use more like 310.
mclaren777
Member
rF2 was supposed to be a summer release, but that's unlikely to happen now. The recent updates have been great and I've really enjoyed the official content and the mods. I'm currently beta testing one that I can't talk about, but it's really cool.
I've also added Croft and Sebring to the mod list in the second post.
FFB feels great, as usual, but it still has the "death rattle" when going off track. I've modified my controller settings to make it suck less, but it still needs work.
Random factoid: G27 rattling is caused by the helical gears moving the motor shaft up/down. The standard spring is simply not strong enough to stop shaft play during peak FFB inputs.
And here are some random screenshots from tjc69 to celebrate my unbanning...
Welcome back.
I've heard you mention using a frame rate limiter in this game. Does rf2 have an ingame command? Or are you just using a third party program? I could have sworn 3D vision games used to automatically have v-sync running in 3D, but with my new 660ti, I'm rendering way more frames than I actually need. I'd just assume lock the 3d to 60fps (without v-sync) if it can be done in-game.
I've heard you mention using a frame rate limiter in this game. Does rf2 have an ingame command? Or are you just using a third party program? I could have sworn 3D vision games used to automatically have v-sync running in 3D, but with my new 660ti, I'm rendering way more frames than I actually need. I'd just assume lock the 3d to 60fps (without v-sync) if it can be done in-game.
mclaren777
Member
\rFactor 2\UserData\player\player.PLR
Max Framerate="60.00000"
Max Framerate="60.00000"
I'm pretty sure it's just what they a call a config file and it should open with notepad.
You're right. Thanks.
Doh. I wasn't having this issue in rfactor, but this is why Dirt 3 was unplayable for me in 3D. Checked v-sync to lock it in at 60fps, and back to silky smooth. The more you know.
I have a question for you Mclaren: do you know what those 60's F1 cars are modeled on? Are the Eve and Sparkle just unlicensed versions of the Lotus 49 and Ferrari cars?
Reason I ask is this: I got tired of having the BT20 flop around on Spa, so I loaded up GPL (with all the patches) and wrote down their recommended settings for the BT24 on Spa. And even though it was BT 20 vs 24 and not all the settings could be matched perfectly, it at least formed a base I was able to start tweaking from. I'm not an engineer from 1967. I don't need factory settings, I need something that's semi-tweaked and I can form a base from.
So I'd really like, if I could, is to copy the Lotus and Ferrari settings in GPL for the Spa, Monaco, and Monza tracks.
Reason I ask is this: I got tired of having the BT20 flop around on Spa, so I loaded up GPL (with all the patches) and wrote down their recommended settings for the BT24 on Spa. And even though it was BT 20 vs 24 and not all the settings could be matched perfectly, it at least formed a base I was able to start tweaking from. I'm not an engineer from 1967. I don't need factory settings, I need something that's semi-tweaked and I can form a base from.
So I'd really like, if I could, is to copy the Lotus and Ferrari settings in GPL for the Spa, Monaco, and Monza tracks.
SLIM v3n0m
Member
Stupid question incoming... In fact I'm cringing while I'm thinking about it:
Will rF2 be available on Steam?
Will rF2 be available on Steam?
Considering rfactor 1 never made, I wouldn't count on it.
The digital version also never dropped in price. So if you're interested, there's not much incentive for waiting into the future. I also think they have a 30 day money back trial for the beta. I think. So if you hate it, you can request a refund.
SLIM v3n0m
Member
Man, it would be sweet though.
I'm still into rF1, and in no rush to get into rF2. I'll most likely wait for it to go gold before picking it up.
mclaren777
Member
I don't believe they are modeled off of any existing cars. Using settings from GPL might work, but you'd probably be better off asking for setup recommendations on the ISI forums.
That is undecided at this point, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
Welcome back mclaren, it's good to see you posting again
Thanks.
That's too bad. If you cycle through the different makes in GPL, though, they do seem to have a fairly tight range among the different manufacturers. You can get a pretty good idea of where you'd want your ride heights, caster, toe-ins, etc. And don't even get me started on the tire PSI. It seems WAY too low if you compare to the cars in GPL.
Still, if this is the case, it boggles the mind why they didn't include pre-tuned configs for this. All the more reason it was needed. Absolutely needs to be in the final retail version.
mclaren777
Member
Numerous people have mentioned a 10-20fps increase in performance with this new build.
Build 107 Changelog (August 29, 2012)
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GRAPHICS:
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Added some HDR debug
GAMEPLAY:
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Made spin correction not work while on pitspot.
PHYSICS:
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Turbo code
Working turbo code minus intercooler (but we're ignoring the decreased charge density until that's in)
For turbos, made configurable the location of boost pressure measurement for wastegate purposes
Fixed intake manifold pressure calc for turbos
AI:
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Fixed AI miscalculating fuel needs for fuel multiplier values greater than 1
UI / HUD:
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Made multiplayer list "event name" field now "venue name, event name"
Virtual mirrors (and toggling them) now work the same for cockpit and TV cockpit
Added 2 pairs of x,y offsets to mouseless scroll boxes that can define the position of the Specific image within the scrollbox item. (the image used to always be placed at 0,0 and extend to the full extent of the scrollbox item)
Increased multiplayer game list buffer & standardized internal buffers for safer future upgrade
BUG FIXES:
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Fixed keyboard handling in UI editor (we weren't handling Windows messages in a special tight loop)
Made gamedatabase switches more robust.
Fixed net lag issue (which was caused by extra data being sent without regard to appropriate bandwidth limit)
Fixed skinning bug with non-retail showrooms
Removed redundant gdb value "GrandPrixName"...since it was always identical to "EventName".
Fixed track selection gizmos from stocking multiple copies of the same event.
Fixed a bug where main page veh, rfm, or track icon would not show up because it was the wrong format.
MULTIPLAYER:
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Added sort field for sorting by location to NetCommUtil
Made the text color of the racegrid participants customizable instead of hard-coded.
Build 107 Changelog (August 29, 2012)
======================================
GRAPHICS:
---------------------------
Added some HDR debug
GAMEPLAY:
----------------------------
Made spin correction not work while on pitspot.
PHYSICS:
----------------------------
Turbo code
Working turbo code minus intercooler (but we're ignoring the decreased charge density until that's in)
For turbos, made configurable the location of boost pressure measurement for wastegate purposes
Fixed intake manifold pressure calc for turbos
AI:
----------------------------
Fixed AI miscalculating fuel needs for fuel multiplier values greater than 1
UI / HUD:
----------------------------
Made multiplayer list "event name" field now "venue name, event name"
Virtual mirrors (and toggling them) now work the same for cockpit and TV cockpit
Added 2 pairs of x,y offsets to mouseless scroll boxes that can define the position of the Specific image within the scrollbox item. (the image used to always be placed at 0,0 and extend to the full extent of the scrollbox item)
Increased multiplayer game list buffer & standardized internal buffers for safer future upgrade
BUG FIXES:
----------------------------
Fixed keyboard handling in UI editor (we weren't handling Windows messages in a special tight loop)
Made gamedatabase switches more robust.
Fixed net lag issue (which was caused by extra data being sent without regard to appropriate bandwidth limit)
Fixed skinning bug with non-retail showrooms
Removed redundant gdb value "GrandPrixName"...since it was always identical to "EventName".
Fixed track selection gizmos from stocking multiple copies of the same event.
Fixed a bug where main page veh, rfm, or track icon would not show up because it was the wrong format.
MULTIPLAYER:
----------------------------
Added sort field for sorting by location to NetCommUtil
Made the text color of the racegrid participants customizable instead of hard-coded.
I am seriously wondering about something.
Considering this game was planned to be out of beta 6 months after beta release, but I guess it's still a long way from that? Also, all the content that still has to be released, isn't that going to take a lot of time if they keep up the same rate of development as they do now?
I know I shouldn't expect pCARS rate of development, but it feels so slow.
Considering this game was planned to be out of beta 6 months after beta release, but I guess it's still a long way from that? Also, all the content that still has to be released, isn't that going to take a lot of time if they keep up the same rate of development as they do now?
I know I shouldn't expect pCARS rate of development, but it feels so slow.
mclaren777
Member
From what I've been hearing, we'll get the F2 cars fairly soon.
mclaren777
Member
Them engines!